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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG35

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG35a

Age Group:

31-40

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 15

Occupation:

Shop Worker

Speaker 3:

informantTLSG35b

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Speaker 1:

right

Speaker 2:

(unclear) T L S G five one

Speaker 1:

thanks (pause) eh (pause) to start from the beginning could you tell us where you were born please

Speaker 2:

ehm Windy Nook

Speaker 1:

yeah eh and whereabouts eh else you've lived since then for roughly how long how long did you stay there for instance

Speaker 2:

well I was there right (unclear) I was eh Windy Nook right from being born till I was nineteen and I was married and then I went down to eh Windmill Hills at Gateshead

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 2:

lived there for two and a half year and then come up here (pause) and I've been here nine year this month

Speaker 1:

ta and eh which of those places did you think was the best to live in you know where did you (interruption) enjoy living most

Speaker 2:

oh Windy Nook

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

definitely aye

Speaker 1:

why why do you think it was so much better

Speaker 2:

wey I mean to say I think just being used with the place you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

just being brought up in a place more or less

Speaker 1:

yeah did you find that it was more ehm more neighbourly you know (interruption) did you know people better

Speaker 2:

yes oh yes wey you knew everybody because it was only a small eh place you see

Speaker 1:

yes yeah eh it's almost almost a sort of village by itself isn't it really (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) mm what about ehm this area do you find that this is a pretty neighbourly sort of area you know

Speaker 2:

well not really it's anything but neighbourly

Speaker 1:

is it

Speaker 2:

oh no it's not ehm (pause) it's not my cup of tea like you know

Speaker 1:

oh you don't would you say that you knew say most of the people on on your block

Speaker 2:

oh I know all them on the block uh-huh mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh mm (pause) would you ehm (pause) you know considering Gateshead as compared with Newcastle would you (pause) rather live in Gateshead

Speaker 2:

oh yes

Speaker 1:

definitely

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

why do you think that is just because you were born here or (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well probably that's what it is uh-huh sometimes I like to go shopping the town and that but eh for living I wouldn't like to live in it

Speaker 1:

aye do you not shop in Gateshead very much

Speaker 2:

uh-huh I shop in both places you know

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) and what about eh Tyneside as compared with the rest of the country would you be happy to move away from Tyneside if there was reason for you to or (pause) do you think you would miss it

Speaker 2:

oh I think I would miss it if I moved away

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

sort of connections and friends and something

Speaker 2:

uh-huh I think that's what it is

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) do you think that eh (pause) people from Tyneside are in in your experience different from people from other parts of the country

Speaker 2:

well they are uh-huh I think they are anyway uh-huh I think they're more neighbourly and you know easy to get along with them eh more than any other parts I've been to

Speaker 1:

yes have you eh been away from Tyneside very often just holidays

Speaker 2:

oh just holidays you know that's all just fortnight holidays

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) could you tell us ehm where your parents were born please in Gateshead as well were they

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) eh uh-huh both in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

ehm yes

Speaker 2:

don't (NAME) get up

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) and eh so they've lived in Gateshead all their lives in fact (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

all their lives uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm and what was your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

mining

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) it's amazing how many people have you know mining connections (unclear) generation but ehm (pause) eh could you say what age group you fall into on that card please if you could just say the letter you know

Speaker 2:

the letter C

Speaker 1:

ta eh and finally on what basis you occupy this house is it C

Speaker 2:

ren eh C (interruption) uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes yeah and eh you're married

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

and ehm how many children have you got

Speaker 2:

two

Speaker 1:

the two is that are they both yours

Speaker 2:

no eh just the little boy and I've got one eh nine

Speaker 1:

oh I see both at home

Speaker 2:

eh sch yes she's at school

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) eh do you work at all (interruption) at the moment

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

oh eh whereabouts

Speaker 2:

emh Whitehall Road Co op

Speaker 1:

do you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

oh right I haven't seen you in there I I sometimes go in I go in on eh Saturday mornings

Speaker 2:

oh well I don't (unclear) I have been these last couple of Saturdays like (interruption) I've been in uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but eh I don't I just work the five day

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes and do you work

Speaker 2:

just the twenty hours you know part time (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

ah I see yes you don't work a whole day

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

you just work

Speaker 2:

mornings or afternoons

Speaker 3:

wey it all depends what shift I'm in doesn't it

Speaker 2:

(unclear) mornings or afternoons I just put twenty hours a week in that's all

Speaker 1:

yes it's it's (pause) pretty well up to you is it what eh (interruption) when you work (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh mm-hm

Speaker 1:

is it eh is it a good job do you enjoy it

Speaker 2:

oh yes uh-huh I like it better than any of the other jobs I've had

Speaker 1:

yeah what eh what other jobs have you done in the past (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

wey mostly factory work you know machinist

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

of course as well ehm CWS at Pelaw worked in (interruption)

Speaker 1:

the fact the factory oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

three of the factories (unclear) quilting shirting and tailoring

Speaker 1:

oh I see aye

Speaker 2:

and then eh Farnon's a while then like I got married and then at the store

Speaker 1:

I see yeah yeah (pause) and eh but your your present job you enjoy better than the (interruption) factory

Speaker 2:

yes right uh-huh any the rest uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) ehm (pause) this is just eh (pause) some questions to find out if you use certain expressions in certain situations ehm (pause) if something's eh stacked on a on a high shelf do you say it's up a height

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

do you use that expression

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes and ehm (pause) could you say of a a tool or something eh this'll do the job clever do you ever use that expression

Speaker 2:

not clever no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

na

Speaker 1:

and ehm if somebody's had too much to drink he's (pause) what do you say

Speaker 2:

wey (pause) (laughter) well I (laughter)

Speaker 3:

she says all sorts her (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (pause) ehm

Speaker 3:

(unclear) all sorts of things (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah ehm how old were you when you left school

Speaker 2:

fifteen

Speaker 1:

yeah eh do you think you were glad to leave school or not

Speaker 2:

well I was at the time till I got till I got left then I wished I was back

Speaker 1:

aye did you think that school life was better than working life in fact

Speaker 2:

oh yes wey aye

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) and eh have you had any eh further education since then or anything (interruption) night class or anything no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm (pause) looking back on your education would you say that it's been worth very much to you in your life you know since you left school

Speaker 2:

well not really

Speaker 1:

not particularly

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

not in your job

Speaker 2:

not really no

Speaker 1:

not very important (unclear) and what about ehm (pause) what about out outside your job do you ever feel it's been important to you you know just in your ordinary life like for for you yourself

Speaker 2:

well I (unclear) it has been important uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) and what about ehm (pause) for your your own children you know do you feel that education's important for them

Speaker 2:

oh yeah (interruption) mm-hm I do

Speaker 1:

yeah if eh if you had say a child who was you know deciding whether to leave school at fifteen say or to stay on do you think you would advise them to stay on

Speaker 2:

I would advise them to stay on uh-huh if I thought eh you know he was wey clever you know uh-huh if he could (pause) be able to

Speaker 1:

yeah and do you think that ehm (pause) that this would go as much for girls as for boys or more for boys

Speaker 2:

wey more for boys I think than for girls uh-huh

Speaker 3:

wey I don't know because they've got a good good job for life now if they haven't got education isn't it

Speaker 2:

I think it is I think it's more important now for a lad because I mean to say the lad's going to work all his life whereas the lass gets married and has family and (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye (interruption) yeah

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

you see that takes most of her life up I think

Speaker 3:

but they can always gan back to work now can't they

Speaker 2:

wey you can do when their family's up

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

do you think do you think it's eh a good idea in general for a woman to w work after she's married

Speaker 2:

wey I I do because you're in the house all day and you've got the work when you just you're interest lies in the house whereas when you get out you see a bit more life I you know that's what I think oh I do

Speaker 1:

so I mean you you would eh you would work even if you know I mean even if you didn't have to you would just do (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh I would I wouldn't stay in the house all day no

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) do you think that eh schools have improved since you left

Speaker 2:

oh definitely (interruption) oh yes definitely uh-huh

Speaker 1:

is this the impression you get yeah

Speaker 3:

oh there's a school along (unclear) oh what a smasher (unclear) and all sorts even a swimming pool everything

Speaker 1:

where aye that's near Washington

Speaker 3:

aye

Speaker 1:

yes yes (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 3:

(unclear) one that lights up

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) eh now eh you lived in ehm Windy Nook when you were s pretty young that's you know under twelve say

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) did you think that it was a was a good place to live for children you know did you enjoy your childhood there

Speaker 2:

well I enjoyed it but there was nothing there really you know there was a lot of country like we used to go for all the walks and that

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

whereas it's all been built on in that same country now you know

Speaker 1:

right

Speaker 2:

but when I was (interruption)

Speaker 1:

has it changed very much since you were (interruption) young then

Speaker 2:

oh yes oh it's changed I mean to say a lot of buildings has went up whereas they weren't there when I was (interruption)

Speaker 1:

yeah aye all the new ones eh (interruption) Harlow

Speaker 2:

big housing (interruption) estates and that uh-huh wey aye

Speaker 1:

Harlow Green ones of course yeah pretty (unclear) mm eh can you remember any of the ehm games that you used to play or things you used to do when you were young

Speaker 2:

well eh I joined the harriers and I enjoyed that

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh Saltwell ladies

Speaker 1:

that was Saltwell was it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye was it very eh (interruption)

Speaker 2:

I enjoyed that while I was in it

Speaker 1:

was it very popular in those days for girls to

Speaker 2:

oh yes uh-huh it was popular

Speaker 1:

aye because that that's I I I don't think it is now so much

Speaker 2:

no you never hear it now but you did used to hear a lot of it in the papers and that at one time you know

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) because I I run for the eh university like you know we run in the loc in the local harrier league

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

and there there are women's competitions but they're usually pretty sparsely you know entered

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (pause) no I never hear much of it now well I never hear really of it at all

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but you did hear in the Gateshead Post like you know (interruption)

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

you used to hear you know more than any other paper like

Speaker 1:

were you a very distinguished athlete

Speaker 2:

(laughter) but eh oh aye I enjoyed that while I was in

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 3:

well you used to do all right in the school sports though and all didn't you

Speaker 2:

sport I used to like anything to do with sports

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

netball anything

Speaker 1:

uh-huh good (pause) ehm can you remember eh what you call a game where eh a street game where one of the kids has to chase the others to try to touch them what do you call that

Speaker 2:

mm (pause) we used to play it and I've forgetten the name now

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

relievo was it we used to play

Speaker 1:

I I was just thinking of tuggy did you used to play tuggy

Speaker 2:

oh aye tuggy uh-huh that's right aye uh-huh

Speaker 3:

wey aye

Speaker 2:

(laughter) uh-huh

Speaker 1:

and what do you say about the the one who has to chase the others

Speaker 2:

what eh

Speaker 1:

did you say he's (pause) do you say he's on

Speaker 2:

aye uh-huh (unclear) mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes yeah and eh (pause) did you have any eh methods for deciding who was going to be on

Speaker 2:

wey ehm (pause) I don't know sometimes we used to have a race to see you know if you're last (laughter) you were on more or less I think

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) and what did you used to say when you wanted to ehm call a halt in a game for some reason you know if you want to stop and tie your shoelace or something like that did you used to cross your fingers and say

Speaker 2:

no I don't whether we done that

Speaker 1:

skinchers

Speaker 2:

oh aye that's (interruption) right (laughter)

Speaker 3:

aye you forget divn't you

Speaker 2:

aye you forget it he's bringing it back (laughter)

Speaker 1:

I find (pause) strange like but the older the people are who I'm talking to the better they remember their childhood you know some people dead old people can remember loads about when they were little mm ehm (pause) now ehm (pause) do you think you could tell us what your ordinary word is for each of the rooms of this house please just (pause) you know what you normally call them what's this room please

Speaker 2:

well I usually say this is the kitchen

Speaker 1:

uh-huh

Speaker 2:

and I'd say that's (pause) like in the scullery

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and the bedrooms like that's

Speaker 1:

yes and what do you call the eh you know what you're in after you come through the front door

Speaker 2:

the passage

Speaker 1:

yes ehm (pause) and eh (pause) this probably isn't true for you but to get out of my backdoor you have to lift the (pause) what do you call that

Speaker 2:

the sneck

Speaker 1:

yeah and ehm (pause) what do you call eh the thing you sweep the floor with when you do it by hand

Speaker 2:

just the brush

Speaker 1:

ta eh and what do you call ehm that

Speaker 2:

the bleezer

Speaker 1:

ta (unclear) you would talk about bleezing the fire (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh uh-huh (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh (pause) and what do you call ehm cleaning the plates and things after a meal

Speaker 2:

cleaning the what

Speaker 1:

the plates and things after a meal (unclear)

Speaker 2:

just tidying up

Speaker 1:

eh I mean actually (pause) washing them you know what do you say you have to

Speaker 2:

have to wash the dishes

Speaker 1:

wash the dishes yeah ehm (pause) could you ever do you ever say washing up

Speaker 2:

no just washing the dishes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) can you tell us ehm (pause) how you like to spend your spare time you know assuming that you have any

Speaker 2:

going out (laughter) just going out and for a drink

Speaker 1:

aye whereabouts do you like to go for instance

Speaker 2:

well we just usually go to the Mount Pleasant club

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes

Speaker 2:

that's where we would go

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

well uh-huh it gets sometimes you know turns on

Speaker 1:

good (unclear) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) a Saturday night that's the only night I get out

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

on a Saturday night I don't get out any other time (pause) we just go there

Speaker 3:

we sometimes gan to Wardley

Speaker 2:

oh very odd times

Speaker 3:

you see with mother being handy for the young ones you see when we've got a baby sitter (unclear) we've got to back (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah what about eh watching the television do you watch very much

Speaker 2:

oh yes watch it on wey on a night uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes all the nights you're in you usually watch the television

Speaker 2:

I watch it uh-huh wey not all the time like (unclear) things I've got

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

different times I've got things to do but (interruption) if there's a good film on I like to watch it

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

and anything I like on it

Speaker 1:

and if if you don't like what's on do you usually switch it off or do you just leave it on

Speaker 2:

no I just leave it on

Speaker 1:

aye but ignore it

Speaker 2:

(laughter) uh-huh (laughter)

Speaker 3:

yeah she'll say turn it on I want to see this and I'll watch the other side and then she gans in the scullery and starts washing up (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) nasty trick

Speaker 3:

wey aye

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think that the eh standard of programmes is pretty good on the whole or poor

Speaker 2:

oh I think they're pretty good

Speaker 1:

not bad

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

what kind of things do you like

Speaker 2:

wey eh I like the films and I just like Coronation Street and ehm I like to see that University Challenge (interruption) I like to see that

Speaker 1:

oh aye it's a good programme that

Speaker 2:

and quizzes and that you know (interruption) and the eh Hughie Green shows

Speaker 1:

yes yes aye do you not get bored with Coronation Street

Speaker 2:

no I like it no

Speaker 1:

no have you watched it

Speaker 2:

I used to like to see Peyton Place when it was on and then I (pause) would never miss that

Speaker 1:

uh-huh (pause) eh (pause) and what do you think's the worst sort of rubbish on television is there anything that you really hate

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) oh I don't like that Callan

Speaker 1:

do you not

Speaker 2:

oh no it's an eh (pause) ehm (pause)

Speaker 3:

you know that Star Trek you didn't used to like (interruption)

Speaker 2:

star that Star Trek aye

Speaker 3:

now she's going bad (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

hm come on turn over to Star Trek I want to watch Coronation Street

Speaker 1:

I used to think it was funny that (unclear) Star Trek (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) (unclear) too far fetched that was (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

wey it was only because (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

got to use your imagination

Speaker 2:

eh I can't

Speaker 1:

(unclear) and are there any things that eh you sort of ehm wish you could have done but you've never got round to or you've never had the chance to do

Speaker 2:

wey ehm (pause) I mean to say I would have joined up I think you know like

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

before I was married like joined up you know if I could have you know if I had my life to go over again like I would s I would have done that

Speaker 1:

wh why do you would you like the sort of travel (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh travel uh-huh

Speaker 1:

and eh

Speaker 2:

I think that's the only thing

Speaker 1:

mm what about eh if you if you won a a very large sum of money tomorrow you know I mean if you won the pools or something what do you think you would do

Speaker 2:

I would go on a lovely cruise

Speaker 1:

aye travel (interruption) would be the first thing

Speaker 2:

eh buy a house

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

and (pause) well I think that's enough money to do you I think you know to live

Speaker 1:

aye yeah (pause) these are just ehm (pause) a few questions about your (pause) eh opinions on some ordinary matters like ehm (pause) what do you think that parents should do when their children misbehave you know how what what your policy about you know that sort of thing

Speaker 2:

well I usually find if you keep them in if they do something wrong and you keep them in the house

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

and that us more usually works more than anything else than you know braying or anything

Speaker 1:

bet better than hitting them like aye and eh (pause) do you ever eh hit your children (unclear) (interruption) eh

Speaker 2:

oh yes I hit them (interruption) uh-huh

Speaker 1:

you do sometimes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

but it's got to be for something special

Speaker 2:

yes oh oh yes I wouldn't hit them for nothing

Speaker 1:

mm eh and ehm (pause) what about a young person of say sixteen do you think that they should be more or less allowed to do as they want mm-hm

Speaker 2:

oh no not sixteen year olds no

Speaker 1:

do you think their parents should still have

Speaker 2:

still uh-huh

Speaker 1:

keep them under control

Speaker 2:

well they don't really know much at sixteen

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) and this would go for things like ehm staying out at at nights you know they would have to be in for a certain time at night

Speaker 2:

oh yes sixteen year olds definitely

Speaker 3:

(unclear) sixteen year olds is stopping out it's the parents that get worried wondering where they are like

Speaker 1:

yes mm-hm

Speaker 3:

I mean instead of talking about how old they are you know it's it's their parent theirsel

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 3:

I mean even you can get bairn who'll be twenty odd (pause) but if they're out all night you still wonder where they are and get yourself a bit (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye that's true yes (pause) eh and this is eh (pause) this is a question you don't have to answer if you don't want ehm secret ballot and all that which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

Labour

Speaker 1:

yeah and have you always voted the same way

Speaker 2:

yes always

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) eh why do you think wh wh why do you always vote the same way d is it (pause) eh do you feel a sort of loyalty to the (interruption) to the one party

Speaker 2:

wey I would mind I like eh the Labour policies you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that's what it is

Speaker 1:

you're really convinced that they're like (interruption) you know better for

Speaker 2:

they're better mm-hm definitely

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) and (pause) would you say that eh (pause) you turn out to vote fairly regularly I mean do you vote in sort of local government elections for instance

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes every time ehm (pause) and eh what sort of things do you expect of a government once it's elected you know mm what do you think its main duties are

Speaker 2:

well (pause) to the people (pause) and ehm (pause) I don't k to the poor as well you know

Speaker 1:

aye think there should be more concentration on (interruption) social (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm yes

Speaker 1:

yes ehm (pause) what about ehm (pause) how do you feel about equal pay for women do you think women ought to get equal pay for equal work

Speaker 2:

well eh (pause) I think some sometimes they should

Speaker 1:

aye if they really (interruption) do this equal jobs

Speaker 2:

but eh (interruption) eh uh-huh they do yes

Speaker 3:

I would say (pause) if they're doing the same work (interruption) they should do

Speaker 2:

if they're doing the same work uh-huh (pause) should eh should get equal pay

Speaker 1:

yes ehm (pause) you don't think y you don't think women have got anything to lose by being sort of treated as economically equal

Speaker 2:

I don't think they've got anything to lose

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) now if we could just go on to talk about eh the thing we are most interested in like that's the way you talk and (pause) what you think about the way other people talk ehm firstly eh (pause) do you ever change the way you speak according to the person you're talking to or the circumstances

Speaker 2:

wey not really no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

not even (pause) on the telephone or anything like that

Speaker 2:

wey I think on the telephone you have to eh you know change your eh (pause) (interruption) (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 3:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) you try (unclear)

Speaker 3:

(unclear) wey aye

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

but you're not eh (pause) you don't normally sort of change your speech to suit you know

Speaker 2:

no not re

Speaker 1:

towards the speech of the people you're talking to

Speaker 2:

no not really

Speaker 1:

aye and y you've never tried to make any eh permanent changes in the way you talk you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh wey I would like to talk nice like it's (unclear) I don't like Geordie eh

Speaker 1:

do you not

Speaker 2:

no no I don't think it sounds nice

Speaker 1:

that's a just a matter of it its pleasantness like you don't think it's pleasant

Speaker 2:

no na I don't not one little bit

Speaker 3:

wey the trouble is if you gan anywhere though man you just have to gan say over the water or go out (pause) over the town at Sunderland there (pause) you know because they're saying words there half the time that I don't understand when we're working as well there's a lot of different types of people work there you know from Crook and what not you're saying aye and they're saying what what

Speaker 1:

yes aye it's eh

Speaker 3:

it'd be better if everybody spoke the same like wouldn't it

Speaker 1:

do you think so

Speaker 3:

wey aye

Speaker 1:

you don't think you would miss any miss anything

Speaker 3:

no

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 3:

you'd be able to understand each other wouldn't (interruption) they

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) eh (pause) so (pause) there's eh (pause) there's no sense in which you approve of of local Tyneside accents do you think do you think they should be dropped altogether do you think they should go out of you know out of circulation

Speaker 2:

wey (pause) aye they should be dropped

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) you you never feel ehm (pause) eh closer to people if they talk like you for instance you don't feel that

Speaker 2:

wey you think to yourself oh well they're one of us (pause) (interruption) yeah but that's eh

Speaker 1:

yeah so it does it does have that effect on you really (interruption) yes

Speaker 2:

that's eh (pause) what it is like

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) what about eh other (pause) local accents of England you know Liverpool or Cockney accents do you think they're pleasant or

Speaker 2:

wey I don't like the Cockney

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no I don't like the Cockney eh I think eh (pause) when you get to Guisborough there they've got a lovely way of talking

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 2:

it's not very (unclear) you know it's not that far like they've got a nice way of talking them

Speaker 1:

and some are so some accents are nice and some are (interruption) are (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 3:

I like to hear the Scots on me as long as they don't talk too sharp (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm yeah and you know when when you said that eh you would like to to be able to talk nicely do what do you think you mean by nicely sort of

Speaker 2:

well proper (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

the way the newsreaders speak (interruption) on the BBC

Speaker 2:

English uh-huh yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

you you thoroughly approve of that way of talking

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh do you do you know anybody yourself who talks like that

Speaker 2:

no I don't think so

Speaker 1:

no (laughter) what do you think you would think about them if you did you know I mean

Speaker 2:

wey eh (pause) I wouldn't think anything just they were nice talkers and that's all you know

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) yeah (pause) and eh what what sort of things in general do you think you can tell about people from the way they talk do you ever do you ever guess things about eh (pause) other people from listening to them talk you know (pause) just from their pronunciation

Speaker 2:

like guess wey what

Speaker 1:

yeah I mean well let's say (pause) you know how do you react to my speech for instance what w what do you think you would say about the way I talk

Speaker 2:

well you talk properly talk properly (unclear) you know

Speaker 1:

really properly

Speaker 2:

well maybe not really (interruption) but eh I mean to say you don't talk slang Geordie do you

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

no but you can tell the accent's there though behind the voice can't you

Speaker 2:

what accent though

Speaker 1:

I think well do yo you think y do you think you would be able to guess that I came from Gateshead I mean that I came from Tyneside

Speaker 2:

no I don't think so

Speaker 1:

you don't think so

Speaker 2:

no I I don't I don't (interruption)

Speaker 1:

what about you

Speaker 3:

oh wey aye I would think so wey aye

Speaker 1:

it's pretty obvious in fact in my thinking

Speaker 3:

wey aye

Speaker 2:

no I thought you (unclear) maybe outside Newcastle you know

Speaker 1:

aye I was in fact born in Gateshead I've lived all my life in Gateshead you know and as far as I know always talked like this as well you know I've never change I've never I've never changed anything about the way I talk not consciously anyway (pause) yeah but do you not think that you can guess ehm (interruption)

Speaker 2:

you don't talk slang though do you

Speaker 1:

eh well I'm not I'm not exactly sure what you mean by slang

Speaker 2:

wey like ganning and you know things like watta and

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

like that like you know and ye for you you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

do you sound like that

Speaker 1:

well I think it depends on the circum

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

it depends on the situation you know sometimes I do like sometimes I don't but I mean I don't think you do either I mean eh I don't think you've ever said watta in this you know in this interview like

Speaker 2:

no (laughter)

Speaker 1:

although you did before

Speaker 2:

aye he does (laughter)

Speaker 1:

but you haven't really you know eh in a way I would have thought that I would be you know fairly close to you really in a you know in in wor manner of speech

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

it's funny that you should (interruption)

Speaker 2:

you should hear his own outside (laughter) with them all (laughter)

Speaker 1:

do you think that you speak sort of very differently when you're you know I mean do you think that this you know the way you're talking now is very different from the way you normally speak

Speaker 2:

oh no not no

Speaker 1:

you don't feel as if you're doing anything special to change it

Speaker 2:

no I don't no

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) a about yourself when when you're in other parts of the country can people usually tell that you come from Tyneside

Speaker 2:

usually uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm and what about eh on on other parts of Tyneside can people ever tell that you come from Gateshead

Speaker 2:

no I don't think so

Speaker 1:

and do you yourself feel that eh (pause) there's a difference between the speech of Gateshead and Newcastle (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no I think it's about the (interruption) same

Speaker 1:

more or less the same

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

you wouldn't like to guess whe whether somebody came from this side or that side (pause) from the way they talk

Speaker 2:

wouldn't like to guess

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I mean to say you get that at Hepburn they talk nice and like Jarrow's just you know the same as like what Gateshead talks you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but ehm

Speaker 1:

but there's no big difference between Gateshead and Newcastle

Speaker 2:

no I don't think so

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) mm (pause) whuh ehm do you think you could just read that list of words for us please just straight down from the top to bottom

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with

Speaker 1:

ta (pause) mm now eh I'm going to read out a list of words and for each one I'd like to know ehm (pause) if you know what it means and secondly eh if you use it yourself and thirdly if you hear people using it fairly frequently you know they're all fairly local words you know ehm (pause) excuse me a minute (pause) ehm (pause) aside for beside do you say it's just aside the fire

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (interruption) yes

Speaker 1:

yes ehm bairn

Speaker 2:

just the same bairn aye

Speaker 1:

yes you would say that

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh bait

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) beck meaning a 'stream'

Speaker 2:

beck

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

no I never use that

Speaker 1:

no eh bonny

Speaker 2:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

you use that eh bray

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes ehm bullets

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

clamming

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes eh boody

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

you do w w what do you mean by it boody

Speaker 2:

wey eh like a cup broken cups like you know

Speaker 1:

yeah they've got to be broken

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (unclear)

Speaker 1:

you don't talk about eh a boody teapot or a boody dish

Speaker 2:

oh uh-huh that and all yes uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

you do mm just that it's made of uh-huh

Speaker 2:

boody

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) clarts

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) coin a corner

Speaker 2:

no I divn't say (interruption) coin no

Speaker 1:

you wouldn't say it no

Speaker 3:

little bit since I heard that now like to coin

Speaker 1:

yes seems to've c

Speaker 3:

I had a laugh the other day when I says it at work

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 3:

you always used coin round there (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) cree

Speaker 2:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

dunch

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes ehm fettle

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

do you use that in the sense of ehm to fettle something

Speaker 2:

mm-hm yes

Speaker 1:

what about being in good fettle do you use it that way

Speaker 2:

no I wouldn't say to be in good fettle no

Speaker 1:

eh gully

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes howk

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes hoy

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes ken for 'to know'

Speaker 2:

ken no

Speaker 1:

do you ken him no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

eh (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes lowe

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) meaning a light

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

give us a lowe

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

there's not many people who are familiar with that like

Speaker 2:

aye

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

I noticed that (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

no no it's all strictly confidential (pause) eh (pause) eh mense be more to your mense

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye ehm parky about your food

Speaker 2:

parky yes (interruption) mm-hm

Speaker 1:

aye eh stot

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes varnigh

Speaker 2:

what

Speaker 1:

varnigh

Speaker 2:

varnigh aye varnigh (interruption) yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes very nearly uh-huh

Speaker 2:

uh-huh mm

Speaker 1:

eh and now eh I'm going to read out eh this list of sentences and for each one I want to know ehm if it's sounds normal to you that is if it if it sounds like something that you might say if the circumstances arose you see what imean ehm (pause) so eh (pause) you know some of them will sound a bit odd to you and some of them will sound just you know just like ordinary sentences right

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) eh were you wakened last night when I came in is that okay

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I was still a bed when he called this morning

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

ehm he never gave us any

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

okay yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh do you not go there

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

do you not go there very often

Speaker 2:

mm-hm that's okay

Speaker 1:

okay

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

they're useless them

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

me and John went to the races yesterday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh it's me and him's last day

Speaker 2:

uh-huh it's all right

Speaker 1:

that would be okay yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

(unclear) it's too no I wouldn't (interruption) say that

Speaker 1:

you wouldn't say ower big no eh (pause) he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) you know my cousin that her husband died

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh I've got to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes they go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh I think we're going to be soon for the picture

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes would you mind stop talking

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 3:

wey you wouldn't say that you'd say hey will ye shut up

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I w I wouldn't dare say that (laughter) I told you it should have been him (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

that's all right perfectly all right eh do you want a cup of tea making

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

okay

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (interruption)

Speaker 3:

was that a hint (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) no it isn't but it has occurred to me that some people might think that it was eh (unclear)

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) you know you know him that used to work on the railways (interruption) that's okay

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

he happened a nasty accident

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

uh-huh eh I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

okay eh I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah when did it happen you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm it's all right

Speaker 1:

eh I've got money belonging him

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh could you mind your head so as I can see out the back all right

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes yeah I'm going shopping for John a pair of trousers

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes it's all right for you you're used with it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes we've been waiting of a bus

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I think they're going to give him the job permanent

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

aye eh I don't bother much about the television and that

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes many people were there there

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh where did you get it at

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes never mind I'll manage but

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

no the wonder is okay

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes me and George is going to the town the day

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

right

Speaker 3:

he divn't want to be (unclear) work

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Jack didn't think much to the race

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

right all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

had they seen it no they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

they'd not seen it yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh my coat's too long this

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

how's your wife and family then

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm Joe can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

ehm what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh he wants his wages paid immediately

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 3:

(unclear) paid straight away

Speaker 1:

yes (laughter) I'll change that eh just light the fire on will you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

uh-huh eh (pause) I'll clout yous both in a minute

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 3:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

uh-huh mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm pass us one of them spanners

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh I've broke a plate

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I come this morning but you weren't in

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh he done it all right

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes I've forgetten to buy the onions

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

he give us a pound for doing it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm we had went to the coast for the day

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) I seen Albert on Tuesday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 3:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

I'm not (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to stand being tret like that

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh that's what happens when you be naughty

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes I'll probably seeing her Saturday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

Speaker 2:

no I would say I think he

Speaker 1:

yeah mm-hm eh you've letten him get away

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah my mother's keep coming in to see us

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

and almost finished eh could you give me eh the opposite of 'I'll be going there this week'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

the opposite of

Speaker 2:

the opposite

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

wey I'll not be going there this week

Speaker 1:

that's right eh could you give us the opposite of 'he's got some'

Speaker 2:

he hasn't got some

Speaker 1:

ta and the opposite of 'he's seen that picture'

Speaker 2:

he hasn't seen that picture

Speaker 1:

ta again the opposite of 'you're working late tonight'

Speaker 2:

he's not working late tonight

Speaker 1:

ta eh the opposite of (interruption)

Speaker 3:

because he was in sharp wasn't it (unclear) that's what you want to hear isn't it

Speaker 1:

well no I (interruption)

Speaker 3:

that's what she generally says

Speaker 1:

n aye no I think in these cases I'm more interested in just you know the actual the negative sort of form of it you know

Speaker 3:

ah (unclear) because she don't say (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I wish you would stop interrupting (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

it's my interview

Speaker 1:

true true (pause) eh (pause) the opposite of 'I gave him one'

Speaker 2:

I didn't give him one

Speaker 1:

ta eh (pause) suppose eh you went up to somebody in the street and asked for a match what would you say

Speaker 2:

have you got a match please

Speaker 1:

ta and could you finish off this sentence eh I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

today

Speaker 1:

yes fine thanks

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