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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG15

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG15

Age Group:

21-30

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 14

Occupation:

Housewife (previously Sewing Machinist)

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Speaker 1:

right

Speaker 2:

T (unclear)

Speaker 1:

T L S (unclear)

Speaker 2:

T L S G fifty eight

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) ehm (pause) (unclear) eh could you tell us first of all where you were born please

Speaker 2:

Gateshead

Speaker 1:

in Gateshead was it right whereabouts

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (pause) Teams

Speaker 1:

oh aye

Speaker 2:

down the Teams

Speaker 1:

which

Speaker 2:

four Renwick Terrace

Speaker 1:

aye it's not there any more is it

Speaker 2:

yes it's still there

Speaker 1:

is it you sure

Speaker 2:

yes they haven't pulled it down because eh (pause) my grandma's just come out of that house and it's still standing there

Speaker 1:

it's still there is it whereabouts is it then

Speaker 2:

eh just off Victoria Road

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes yes (unclear)

Speaker 2:

all old houses

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah I've just done a good few interviews down there like you know it's (unclear) ehm (pause) and whereabouts else have you lived since then you know did you

Speaker 2:

just Deckham and then here

Speaker 1:

aye how long did you live in the Teams you know

Speaker 2:

till I was fifteen (unclear) (pause) till I was fifteen

Speaker 1:

sounds upset well he can come in you know

Speaker 2:

oh he'll be all right he'll shut up (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) and then how long have you been here

Speaker 2:

two year just here

Speaker 1:

ehm how did those three places compare as places to live you know which did you like best

Speaker 2:

well (pause) they're both they're all about the same really

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but the Teams is a right bad area

Speaker 1:

(unclear) it's dirty and that isn't it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh and Deckham's getting bad now

Speaker 1:

yes whereabouts in Deckham did you live

Speaker 2:

Split Crow Road

Speaker 1:

oh yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh up here's getting wey this place is starting now you cannot trust anybody

Speaker 1:

starting to get rough like

Speaker 2:

uh-huh just rough

Speaker 1:

aye it's got a bit of a reputation for being rough like (unclear)

Speaker 2:

especially round Blackhill (laughter)

Speaker 1:

that's right aye (laughter) do you think that ehm you know most of your neighbours round here are pretty friendly ehm d would you say do you know most people sort of

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh oh they're all right

Speaker 1:

mm mm what about the Teams did you find that a particularly neighbourly sort of area

Speaker 2:

wey all my friends was down the Teams like

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but (pause) such as grown ups wey I was only a kid there

Speaker 1:

eh what do you think about Gateshead as a place to live in you know compared with Newcastle say do you think you would just as soon live in Newcastle

Speaker 2:

I like Gateshead

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah you prefer (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

too many big buildings over Newcastle (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

think so like (unclear)

Speaker 1:

what about eh you know on Tyneside do you think you'll do you think you'll stay on Tyneside more or less for the rest of your life or would you ever consider moving away

Speaker 2:

don't think so

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I think he's eh thinking about emigrating

Speaker 1:

oh ehm

Speaker 2:

wants to go to South Africa

Speaker 1:

yes what does he do like your husband

Speaker 2:

we'll not go till a couple of year he's a plater

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

boiler maker

Speaker 1:

aye yeah there's meant to be quite good opportunities and that in eh (interruption) South Africa

Speaker 2:

wey he's sent away Zambia and they tell you everything about it and you get the house and everything with the job

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

but you stop there three year and if you want to come back they pay your fare back

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

but you can stay on if you like

Speaker 1:

yes and do you think you will I mean will you be quite happy to (pause) to emigrate

Speaker 2:

wey you see a few years time when the other one's up

Speaker 1:

uh-huh aye do you think you'll miss the miss the place here like if you if you do leave it

Speaker 2:

wouldn't know (pause) because I'm the only one in the family

Speaker 1:

yes I see yes (pause) eh do you think that ehm (pause) Tynesiders are very different from people from other parts of the country you know in your experience

Speaker 2:

(unclear) took much notice

Speaker 1:

not particularly no you don't think they're more friendly or anything like that some people think they are

Speaker 2:

wey you can talk to anybody in Tyneside like and they'll speak to you back but wey I haven't been really anywhere else

Speaker 1:

no you've never lived anywhere else have you have you e have you been away sort of for holidays and that very often

Speaker 2:

mainly to Scotland with my mam and them but it's her relations you see so

Speaker 1:

eh whereabouts were your parents born please (unclear) born in Gateshead as (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Scotland

Speaker 1:

were they

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye yes I think (interruption)

Speaker 2:

my dad was brought here when he was three month though

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

but my mam lived in Scotland

Speaker 1:

aye yes you seem quite a different sort of (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

my grandma was born on the Tyneside

Speaker 1:

oh I see uh-huh

Speaker 2:

she's lived here all her life

Speaker 1:

uh-huh and eh (pause) what was eh your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

works at the gasworks down the Teams

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye Dunston mm-hm mm-hm (pause) just to finish off getting the facts could you just tell us which age group you belong to on that card please if you just say the letter

Speaker 2:

B twenty one to thirty

Speaker 1:

yeah eh it's the polite way of asking people their age eh on what basis do you occupy this house presumably C

Speaker 2:

rented from the council

Speaker 1:

yes uh-huh ta eh how many children have you got just the one

Speaker 2:

two one of each

Speaker 1:

eh one at school

Speaker 2:

no he's just eh he's four this year the little one's just three month little girl (laughter)

Speaker 1:

oh yes that's right I saw the little girl last time I was here yes (pause) eh (pause) could you tell us ehm (pause) what eh what jobs you've done in your life you know what eh what did you do when you first left school

Speaker 2:

machinist making dresses

Speaker 1:

aye whereabouts

Speaker 2:

Mary Harris's

Speaker 1:

on the trading estate

Speaker 2:

on the Team Valley

Speaker 1:

uh-huh

Speaker 2:

and then Heller's Carlisle Square making anoraks

Speaker 1:

uh-huh (pause) same sort of work all the time

Speaker 2:

uh-huh but (pause) dresses is better like than anoraks (laughter)

Speaker 1:

are they

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

why is that

Speaker 2:

I like them they're easier anoraks is a bit more awkward

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

thicker

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) and those are those are the only two jobs you've done (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes that's all

Speaker 1:

and you've you've never worked since (interruption) you got married

Speaker 2:

oh I worked at Rowntree's

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

counting matchmakers I only stopped there a week (laughter)

Speaker 1:

oh no (laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

that was at Fawdon

Speaker 1:

I suppose that would drive you round the twist (laughter)

Speaker 2:

you had to have clean fingernails and everything oh (pause) I brought some home

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh mm do you think you'll eh (pause) do you think you'll go back to work you know when your (pause) eh (pause) (interruption) when your young ones have grown up like

Speaker 2:

when they're at school I think I will yes when they start school I think I will part time

Speaker 1:

yes just sort of for something to do like

Speaker 2:

wey it will be likely uh-huh I was thinking about home sewing but (pause) may as well go out and do it

Speaker 1:

yes I suppose so yes

Speaker 2:

because you'll just be getting up making cups of tea and that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

that's right and then you'll never get nought done (unclear) (laughter) is there much of that goes on like home sewing

Speaker 2:

mm-hm there's a lot my friend does it she eh makes carrycots

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I had a go at them like but he says they weren't any good (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) that's even more difficult than anoraks then huh (laughter) yeah is it is there very sort of (interruption) decent money

Speaker 2:

just plastic you see

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

no wasn't very good money that (pause) but they say the dresses are and that if you can get them for home sewing

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (pause) eh how old were you when you left school

Speaker 2:

fifteen

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think ehm you were glad to leave school or not

Speaker 2:

well eh I was off school when I was about just before I was fifteen I had to stop off school because my mam went into hospital

Speaker 1:

oh aye

Speaker 2:

she was in for a good oh about two or three month I think

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so she got the house at Deckham the fortnight after she had the house she took a stroke and that meant I had to be off

Speaker 1:

aye so

Speaker 2:

I only went in for afternoon when she come out

Speaker 1:

aye yes so I mean yes

Speaker 2:

so (pause) made no difference but we were gla I think we were glad to leave (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes but you would have had to leave anyway more or less

Speaker 2:

oh yes some stopped on for another year for training for to be typists

Speaker 1:

aye whereabouts did you go to school like

Speaker 2:

Hillhead Lobley Hill

Speaker 1:

oh I know it (unclear) yes but was that was that from well where did you live then

Speaker 2:

I was still eh down Gateshead then

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

now we just shifted to Deckham before I turned fifteen you see so it wasn't worth changing (interruption) schools for the last few month (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye I see what you mean yes (interruption) do all the kids from down there go to Hillhead school

Speaker 2:

well there's the Catholic school as well up there

Speaker 1:

oh aye that's right yes mm-hm

Speaker 2:

but here oh there's a canny few like they've got to go to (pause) Beacon Lough for a school from here the older ones

Speaker 1:

oh aye where will your laddie go to school (unclear)

Speaker 2:

there's a school at the end of the road there

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

then he'll likely go to Beacon Lough later on

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) would you say that you know looking back on your education now like would you say that it's been worth very much to you in your life since you left school or or not particularly

Speaker 2:

wey (pause) not really I don't think wey cookery and all that was (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye did you do very much of that at school

Speaker 2:

we had it once a week

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

uh-huh and sewing and that

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but eh I think it all come you get all more when you leave school

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

just sums and that

Speaker 1:

yes I think a lot of people say that

Speaker 2:

it never worked for me I was always bottom

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye most people say you know that they've learnt more since they left school than what they did when they were there like

Speaker 2:

mm mm

Speaker 1:

I think it's true ehm do you think that you know for your own children when they s when they grow up and that when they are about fifteen or so do you think you would advise them to stay on at school if they possible could or would you rather they left (unclear)

Speaker 2:

think it'll depend how they are like

Speaker 1:

yeah I mean (interruption)

Speaker 2:

how they go if he's good enough if you know

Speaker 1:

aye (interruption) if they're not very promising

Speaker 2:

good marks and that and if they think he could go on to farther then (unclear) he could stop if he wants like

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes but you would you would sort of advise him to you would you would want him to

Speaker 2:

wey if it means him getting a good job and that especially the boy

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

because it doesn't really matter for girls they always end up getting married or something (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

it's the boy that's the main one he's got to have it all his life

Speaker 1:

aye that's right I think yes mm what do you think about eh you know education now do you think it's ehm do you think it's pretty good from what you've (interruption)

Speaker 2:

don't believe in teaching the children (pause) eh sex education

Speaker 1:

do you not

Speaker 2:

not at seven year old (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I didn't find out till I left school (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes (pause) what about ehm you know discipline in schools do you think they're (pause) eh

Speaker 2:

wey I've never had the strap or anything yet at school

Speaker 1:

did you not

Speaker 2:

I never had anything like that all the schools I went to I was lucky

Speaker 1:

aye (unclear)

Speaker 2:

just had to stand in the corner like (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye ehm (pause) ehm (pause) eh when you were eh you know when you were fairly young yourself say under twelve you were living ehm down the Teams

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

did you think eh did you think it was a good place to live then you know from your point of view as a as a child you know did you enjoy your (interruption) childhood

Speaker 2:

well I had all my friends and all that there

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

and then when I shifted to Deckham well you had to make new friends again all over

Speaker 1:

(unclear) bother (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

was (laughter)

Speaker 1:

ehm did you ehm can you remember any of the any of the eh you know the games you used to play when you were young there's like street games or anything like that what sort of games did you play

Speaker 2:

I played hide and seek

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

tuggy on high tuggy on low (laughter)

Speaker 1:

that's right aye

Speaker 2:

them ones (pause) and just the names like on the telly (pause) a letter beginning with b or something and you had to guess it (interruption) and run over the street (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) oh I know that aye (interruption) uh-huh oh aye yes aye (interruption) something like (pause) yeah

Speaker 2:

things like that they still play it up here

Speaker 1:

do they

Speaker 2:

and hop scotch

Speaker 1:

aye do they play that here still

Speaker 2:

mm but different shape now

Speaker 1:

do they

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

interesting (pause) a lot of people don't you know have the impression that kids don't play now the same as what they used to (interruption) you know

Speaker 2:

I've seen them playing here and skippys and that and that elastic game

Speaker 1:

oh aye they're always doing that these days (unclear) (pause) ehm can you remember what did you used to say when you wanted to eh call a halt in a game for some reason you know if you want to if you want to stop the game or something did you used to cross your fingers and say

Speaker 2:

I used to shout hang on a minute or something like

Speaker 1:

you didn't say something like skinchers or (pause) no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

what did you used to (pause) eh what did you used to call ehm (pause) you know the things that boys flick along the ground what did you call them

Speaker 2:

I never seen them I don't think they used to just be marbles

Speaker 1:

just marbles you didn't have a you didn't have a word a special word for them

Speaker 2:

we never played such as that we used to play houses like

Speaker 1:

aye did you used to play with ehm boody

Speaker 2:

ahh uh-huh boody used to go hunting for it

Speaker 1:

that's right

Speaker 2:

we used to go hunting for boody bits of china it was uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye did you used to like play shops with it (pause) eh (pause) still on the lines of ehm what words you use for things could you tell us please just ehm what you call each of the rooms in this house you know what your normal word is for each room

Speaker 2:

back kitchen living room

Speaker 1:

this is the living room

Speaker 2:

uh-huh bedroom (pause) just the bedrooms and and eh (pause) just the toilet

Speaker 1:

aye and what about what you're in soon as you come through the front door

Speaker 2:

passage

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

where some say lobby

Speaker 1:

uh-huh uh-huh and some people even say hall I believe ehm and eh you know on a like on an old fashioned backdoor you know to get out it you have to lift the (pause) what do you call that

Speaker 2:

the sneck

Speaker 1:

aye aye eh and what do you call eh the thing you stand in front of the fire to get it going you know if you've got a coal fire a sheet of tin that you put in front of it to get it going

Speaker 2:

blazer

Speaker 1:

aye ta eh and what do you call ehm cleaning the plates and things after a meal

Speaker 2:

(unclear) say washing we wash the dishes up (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes wash the dishes up (laughter) (pause) eh well could you tell us please just ehm (pause) you know how you like to spend your spare time and that what sort of things you like to do if you have any

Speaker 2:

wey generally out nearly every day during the week go down my grandma's to help her

Speaker 1:

oh I see aye

Speaker 2:

because she's in her eighties

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and then I'm go up my mam's about once a week

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but if I can get somebody to watch the bairns

Speaker 1:

I see you don't (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

generally go out with my husband to the to (pause) the boiler maker's club (interruption) the new one

Speaker 1:

that's the new one yeah

Speaker 2:

or the pictures

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

that's about all generally the housework

Speaker 1:

mm mm yes yes (laughter)

Speaker 2:

I like it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

do you

Speaker 2:

I don't dislike it

Speaker 1:

(unclear) it's a nice situation to be in mm

Speaker 2:

plus the ironing (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye that's an unpopular job like my wife doesn't like ironing either would you say you know how many nights do you do you get the chance to go out

Speaker 2:

wey not often really because his mam well she spoils them and they'll get too much of their own way my mam cannot there's only really my grandma but you don't care you know much for asking her

Speaker 1:

aye (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but there's my neighbour further down now she's just said she's offered to watch them any time for us you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

that's all right

Speaker 1:

eh what about you know when you stay in do you watch the television very much

Speaker 2:

oh yes we generally have the television on

Speaker 1:

is it us usually on sort of every night

Speaker 2:

uh-huh it's generally on every night we generally watch it uh-huh

Speaker 1:

uh-huh more or less all the time

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm what eh what sort of things do you like to watch especially you know

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

don't know anything about it

Speaker 2:

do you not know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

just I I haven't got a television you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

wey he's good he's nice looking him (laughter)

Speaker 1:

oh I see aye w w s what sort of programme is it

Speaker 2:

wey Coronation Street's all the same that one

Speaker 1:

oh yes

Speaker 2:

but generally (unclear) and mostly the films

Speaker 1:

aye uh-huh

Speaker 2:

and Department S that's Jason King

Speaker 1:

aye I think I've seen that before

Speaker 2:

he's not bad (pause) but you want to hear my grandma go on about the telly (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you want to hear her how she says now the way they kiss nowadays (laughter) she says you'd think they're having a lolly (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh (pause) do you think that ehm (pause) you know is there any things that ehm (pause) you wish you had been able to do but you've never got round to you know you've never had the chance to do like

Speaker 2:

sometimes a wished I hadn't got married with the kids (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes I was thinking more about you know just eh like recreation activities that you might have in mind but you've never actually (interruption) done

Speaker 2:

well I used to like to go swimming

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but I'll be able to go next year when she's up

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

take the two of them

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I cannot get him to go he cannot swim

Speaker 1:

aye yes yes you go down to Leam Baths I suppose

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye it's quite it's nice down there

Speaker 2:

but (pause) I think that's really all really and he's just got a car now so we'll be able to go out in the car now and we like camping

Speaker 1:

do you aye

Speaker 2:

we went camping last year

Speaker 1:

yeah whereabouts

Speaker 2:

Rothbury

Speaker 1:

oh aye it's nice there

Speaker 2:

we only had the little tent and there was the little one in with we as well

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter) yeah I bet that was some fun (pause) eh what do you think ehm what do you think would happen tomorrow if you if you won a very large sum of money you know like if you won the pools or something

Speaker 2:

buy a house (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes yes whereabouts

Speaker 2:

either Whickham

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

or eh down Low Fell

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

but I like Whickham the best up that way

Speaker 1:

aye Whickham's seems to be (unclear) spot (unclear) do you think it would sort of you know change your way of life very much you know

Speaker 2:

don't think so

Speaker 1:

not particularly no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

what about travel do you think you would travel very much

Speaker 2:

wey I know where I'd like to go but it's not out the country Devon

Speaker 1:

oh

Speaker 2:

and Cornwall we might be able to go next year now see he's got the car

Speaker 1:

mm yes have you been you haven't been there before then huh

Speaker 2:

never no we've only been in a caravan and that was at Cresswell that's as far as I've been I think

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

the lakes Lake District

Speaker 1:

oh aye yeah (pause) eh (pause) these are just ehm (pause) a few questions about your opinions on some things ehm what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should treat them

Speaker 2:

well he generally gets slapped

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

on the bum like (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (unclear) sort of eh (interruption)

Speaker 2:

but if he's any worse he gets sent upstairs to bed

Speaker 1:

oh I see that's (interruption)

Speaker 2:

but me I always bring him back down

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter) yeah yeah getting sent to bed's like a worse punishment than getting smacked

Speaker 2:

I think so yes

Speaker 1:

that would that would be for something more serious would you eh do you usually give him a give him a smack for you know more or less anything like (unclear) fairly often

Speaker 2:

doesn't get it as much as he used to like about the thir when he was from about a year to two

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

he used to get told off a lot but now he's no bother

Speaker 1:

aye aye and eh what about you know say a young person of about sixteen or so what sort of control do you think their parents should have over them very much

Speaker 2:

(unclear) wey you know my mam was too narrow minded (pause) at my age she wouldn't let us do anything

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so I think I had it you know a bit different instead of being in at nine o'clock at night when I was sixteen I think I'd be a bit different

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

this time trust them a bit more

Speaker 1:

aye aye (pause) eh going on to something different and this is a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't eh which way do you vote do you tell people

Speaker 2:

wey I'm not really bothered about who gets who gets in I think they're all the same

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but it's generally Labour

Speaker 1:

but you d yes sort of

Speaker 2:

well it is for us

Speaker 1:

yes you'd Labour but without very much (interruption) conviction

Speaker 2:

but eh the local council one I never bothered

Speaker 1:

no (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

sometimes I wouldn't bother

Speaker 1:

yeah you didn't bother in the last one for instance (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no not really

Speaker 1:

are you not ehm (interruption)

Speaker 2:

it was my first vote like but (pause) I wasn't bothered about it

Speaker 1:

aye are you not eh you know do you not feel that there's any sort of local issues that make it like necessary to vote on accounts (unclear)

Speaker 2:

wey

Speaker 1:

even about the council you would think it doesn't matter who gets on like

Speaker 2:

wey Gateshead council is a bad council as it is

Speaker 1:

yes you think so

Speaker 2:

you wait ages for them to do repairs and that for you

Speaker 1:

is that right (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm especially up here and that

Speaker 1:

mm mm

Speaker 2:

and then the rents some of them's a disgrace especially the butterflies and that down (unclear) Lyndhurst disgraceful they are

Speaker 1:

yes they're very expensive yes about four pound sixteen (unclear) for an hour (pause) eh you know when you you do normally vote Labour like when you bother to vote

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

but you is that just because eh (interruption) you know

Speaker 2:

I'd like to see the others get in though the Liberals but we haven't got a Liberal here just to give them a chance (laughter) to see what they'd be like

Speaker 1:

aye there's never any Liberal candidates up here

Speaker 2:

no there's not just to give them a chance in other election they were going mad about half of them voting the Conservatives because they're playing war till they found out who voted them especially all that area they got into trouble (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

nobody'll speak to some of them (laughter)

Speaker 1:

what people who voted Conservative were sort of aye

Speaker 2:

because they heard about them in the shop

Speaker 1:

aye I wonder how they found out you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know this about oh they nearly let the Conservatives get into Gateshead and and this eh and they were playing holy war it was especially down (pause) Victoria Road there the ones voted down there most of them voted the Conservatives you see and up here was playing war about them (laughter) because they bar ni because they nearly got in you see

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I think it's Labour that's in there c I couldn't tell you (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes they're both Labour MPs like (unclear) (pause) now if eh (pause) if we could just go on to talk for a bit about what we are really interested in and that's the way you talk and that and what all right eh firstly do you think that ehm do you think you ever change the way you speak according to you know the the person you're talking to or any other sort of circumstances

Speaker 2:

well I don't use the proper slang

Speaker 1:

n no (unclear)

Speaker 2:

cause y'knaa n and all that just certain ones

Speaker 1:

aye but do you think I mean do you think you talk the same all the time or do you

Speaker 2:

I think so yes

Speaker 1:

aye so the way you're talking now like to me is sort of just (interruption) the same as you talk to the the woman next door and that yeah

Speaker 2:

I talk the same way to anybody yes

Speaker 1:

and do you also think that you know you've talked the same all during your life

Speaker 2:

I think so yes

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) do you think eh do you on the whole like to hear people talking in local accents you know do you like Tyneside accents

Speaker 2:

wey you can spot it and that anyhow I like it better than eh what my mam's lot use in Scotland

Speaker 1:

aye you mean easier to understand or or just just that it sounds better

Speaker 2:

wey my grandma thinks that a Geordie's better than a Scotch lass

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter)

Speaker 2:

so but my husband who was a s different to me he's more of a (interruption)

Speaker 1:

more broad than you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

aye I think that would you know probably normally be true like that the husband would be more broad than his wife

Speaker 2:

that's what (unclear) said like wey he's at work and that so

Speaker 1:

yes I think that's it

Speaker 2:

but he's picking a lot up I never use the little one (NAME)

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes off his friends and that

Speaker 2:

he says what was it I'm gonna run arund the lamp (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

something I never say that

Speaker 1:

yes but when he says things like that do you correct him about it

Speaker 2:

I says you're gonna run around the lamp not run arund the lamp

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) but you haven't any sort of particular objection to people talking in local accents I mean

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

you know to grown men who say run arund the lamp

Speaker 2:

wey it doesn't bother us

Speaker 1:

you can take it or leave it and that

Speaker 2:

just take it as it comes

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) do you think that eh you know if somebody talks the same as you you know if you meet somebody for the first time and they talk very like you would you say you would be more likely to get on with them you feel closer to them

Speaker 2:

not really

Speaker 1:

no you don't think so you just (unclear) you get on with anybody from well say from Scotland or (interruption) something like that

Speaker 2:

wey I can talk to anybody really

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) you know ehm (pause) you know the way the newsreaders talk on television when they're reading out the news you know that sort of accent

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

do you eh do you like that kind of voice you know do you approve of that way of speaking

Speaker 2:

wey no dinna bothered us

Speaker 1:

(laughter) you never (interruption)

Speaker 2:

just whether they (unclear) and that

Speaker 1:

you don't eh I mean you don't think that that everybody should (interruption)

Speaker 2:

I don't like the posh accents

Speaker 1:

aye well th they all talk well I I w think they all talk in what what I would call a posh accent anyway you know

Speaker 2:

that's what I don't (unclear)

Speaker 1:

do you know anybody who talks like that you know eh do you know anybody yourself

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

who talks in that no it's not very common

Speaker 2:

my auntie (NAME) was born here but she lives down at (pause) eh Cleethorpes now and she lived in Liverpool for a well she's got all the Liverpool accent now

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes

Speaker 2:

but she still likes the Geordies the best

Speaker 1:

aye yeah mm mm mm (pause) eh (pause) eh this eh might strike you as a sort of vague sort of question but eh what kind of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know do you like guess things about people just from listening to their pronunciation and that

Speaker 2:

wey my neighbour next door (unclear) some things the way she goes on and that doesn't seem to know half (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

what she means

Speaker 1:

aye yes do you think ehm do you think she'd would you say she talked like you you know I mean has she got the same sort of accent as you or a different kind

Speaker 2:

yes still the s she's the same as me yes because she was born down there as well down the Teams

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

she's the same

Speaker 1:

yes what eh what would you say about my accent

Speaker 2:

all right (laughter)

Speaker 1:

same as yours more or less

Speaker 2:

wey there's some more and some aren't really

Speaker 1:

eh (interruption)

Speaker 2:

wey my cousin they thought her was she was from eh she was Welsh or something

Speaker 1:

aye I've h I've heard people say that

Speaker 2:

and she's Geordie

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes yes I can see why people should say that like (pause) eh (pause) do you think you could eh just read that list of words for us please straight down and fairly quickly

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me friend been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

ta (pause) now eh I'm going to read out a list of words that are all sort of local Tyneside words you know I would just like to know eh firstly if you're familiar with them and secondly if you use them yourself

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) aside for beside

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

it's just aside the fire do you say

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh bairn

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh bait

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh bonny

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

bray

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

for 'to hit' you know what it means but you wouldn't use it

Speaker 2:

no I don't use that

Speaker 1:

eh bullets

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

clamming

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh boody

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

coin

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

coin to coin a corner

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

uh-huh eh cree

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

cree pigeon cree or

Speaker 2:

n no

Speaker 1:

fettle

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

don't use it you don't say I'll fettle fettle something or fettle you

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

oh yes I'll fettle you

Speaker 1:

fettle you mind

Speaker 2:

or I'll murder you (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah eh gully

Speaker 2:

no I don't use that

Speaker 1:

but you know what it means

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) howk (pause) give you a good howking

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no don't use it eh (pause) lowe

Speaker 2:

no I don't know

Speaker 1:

for a light or a flame

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh (pause) mense be more to your mense to get some work done

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

don't have you ever heard it

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

not much like

Speaker 1:

parky

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

varnigh

Speaker 2:

never heard that

Speaker 1:

have you not for nearly very nearly varnigh missed the bus

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

what about eh knooled to be knooled no

Speaker 2:

no (unclear)

Speaker 1:

do you know what it means like to be knooled

Speaker 2:

not that one

Speaker 1:

like to be ehm kept down or hen pecked for instance

Speaker 2:

never heard (unclear) many of those (unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) now eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out eh some sentences now I would just like to know if they sound okay to you you know if they sound like eh something you might say if the circumstances arose that sort of thing if they sound okay eh were you wakened last night when I came in yes

Speaker 2:

yes I know that one

Speaker 1:

I was still abed when you called this morning

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes you would say abed

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

he never gave us any

Speaker 2:

mm mm

Speaker 1:

yes ehm do you not go there very often

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh they're useless them

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

or they're no good (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (pause) me and John went to the races on Saturday

Speaker 2:

I would use that yes

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

might what

Speaker 1:

I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

uh-huh I might say that or I might say it's too big or something

Speaker 1:

you know my cousin that her husband died

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

yes he would use that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh they go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

what's that one again

Speaker 1:

(laughter) these ones are pretty big to them others (pause) like

Speaker 2:

ah yes

Speaker 1:

think you would say that

Speaker 2:

big them or something no I don't think so no

Speaker 1:

don't think so no (unclear) here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

Speaker 2:

oh she's left her pram outside the shop

Speaker 1:

would you say here she's you know do you say things like that (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no I think she's left her pram

Speaker 1:

yes eh I think we're going to be soon for the picture

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

would you mind stop talking

Speaker 2:

or shut up (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh do you want a cup of tea making

Speaker 2:

would you like a cup of tea

Speaker 1:

do you say making

Speaker 2:

uh-huh would you like a cup of tea made (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes yes you know him that used to work on the railways

Speaker 2:

do you know him (laughter)

Speaker 1:

but you do say you know you know him that used to work

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

he happened a nasty accident

Speaker 2:

oh did you know he had an accident (laughter)

Speaker 1:

you would say he had (interruption) an accident

Speaker 2:

something like that uh-huh

Speaker 1:

I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

uh-huh (pause) I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

when did it happen you

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I've got money belonging him

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh could you mind your head so as I can see out of the back

Speaker 2:

will you shift your head (laughter)

Speaker 1:

so as I can see out the back

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

it's all right for you you're used with it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

we've been waiting of for a bus

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I think they're going to give him the job permanent

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I don't bother much about the television and that

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

many people were there there

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

where did you get it at

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

never mind I'll manage but

Speaker 2:

no I'd just say I'll manage

Speaker 1:

yes you wouldn't put the but on the end

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in would you say no the wonder

Speaker 2:

no wonder

Speaker 1:

no wonder uh-huh me and George is going to the town today

Speaker 2:

yes I always put me first (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Jack didn't think much to the race

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

Speaker 2:

but the caravan sites aren't bad and I've been in most of them (pause) something like that

Speaker 1:

they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

they'd they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

yes (pause) or I haven't seen it

Speaker 1:

yes yes which do you think you say they had t seen it rather than they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

I think I'd say I hadn't seen it

Speaker 1:

yes thanks ta it's far too long this

Speaker 2:

it's what

Speaker 1:

it's far too long this

Speaker 2:

it's long isn't it something like that

Speaker 1:

mm mm (pause) how's your wife and family then

Speaker 2:

I'll ask that yes

Speaker 1:

Joe can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

Speaker 2:

because he's working late

Speaker 1:

what is what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

uh-huh what does he do

Speaker 1:

what does he do for a living uh-huh he wants his wages paid immediately

Speaker 2:

just he wants his wages (pause) now

Speaker 1:

eh just light the fire on will you

Speaker 2:

will you put the fire on (laughter)

Speaker 1:

put it on you don't say light it on

Speaker 2:

no you put it on or stick the poker in

Speaker 1:

yeah eh I'll clout yous both in a minute

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

how much

Speaker 1:

have they offered we

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

pass us one of them spanners

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh I've broke a plate

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I come this morning but you weren't in

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

he dinnet all right

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I had forgetten to buy the onions

Speaker 2:

oh I haven't got the onions (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye do you say eh eh (pause) (unclear) eh he give us a pound for doing it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

we had went to the coast for the day

Speaker 2:

we've been the coast

Speaker 1:

eh I seen Albert on Tuesday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to stand being tret like that

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to stand for you carrying on like that or something

Speaker 1:

do you say do you ever say being tret like that

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

that's what happens when you be naughty

Speaker 2:

sometimes say that

Speaker 1:

yes but (unclear)

Speaker 2:

or when you don't behave yourself

Speaker 1:

aye I'll probably seeing her Saturday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

you've letten him get away

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh my mother's keep coming in to see us

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

we'll sharp get this done

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

he's as Tyneside as what I am

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh yous used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes yes

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) could you give us ehm it's a little bit more complicated than eh

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

could you give us eh the opposite of I'll be going there this week does that make sense

Speaker 2:

wey I think I'd just say I'll not be going there you mean

Speaker 1:

yes the opposite of he's got some

Speaker 2:

I haven't got any (laughter)

Speaker 1:

ta eh he opposite of he's seen that picture

Speaker 2:

oh I've seen it

Speaker 1:

eh the opposite of it

Speaker 2:

oh he's seen it or I haven't seen that picture

Speaker 1:

eh again the opposite of you're working late tonight

Speaker 2:

oh you'll be in soon then will you

Speaker 1:

ta eh the opposite of I gave him one

Speaker 2:

I have I never gave him one

Speaker 1:

thank you ehm suppose eh you went up to somebody in the street to ask them for a match what would you say

Speaker 2:

can I have a light please

Speaker 1:

ta and eh could you just finish off this sentence ehm (pause) I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

I'll do it today

Speaker 1:

thanks that's the lot thank's very much

Speaker 2:

I'll have to see what the time is for her

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