Oh I have seen like some cute pictures, of like con- like bride lifting up her dress with converse on and (interruption) all the boys,

(interruption) Aw no.

All the boys wearing like, suits with like little bow ties, and then like converse.

(NAME) and th- th

So.

They all wear -- wore Converse, I wouldn't like that for my wedding, Converse.

No (NAME)'s got to wear proper shoes but they're having jazzy socks and jazzy boxers, (laughter) 'cause I've said, 'Well if you're wearing jazzy boxers you're going to have to drop your pants so I can get a photo of it.' 'Cause I want a, like a scene -- scene picture of them (laughter) well because I, like well my mam and dad did a wedding the other day and em, for like one of their friends and, most of the blokes there had like Sesame Street undies on so they like (interruption) by the time they'd had a couple,

(interruption) How did they figure out, had they planned that?

Yeah by the time (interruption) they'd had a couple of drinks (laughter)

(interruption) Like coincidence

Well I thought that they must have all just gone to the toilet together, been at the urinals, and been like. (laughter)

Like for (NAME)'s wedding (NAME), and all the ushers and that h- all had jazzy socks on,

Jazzy socks.

So (NAME) so (NAME) kind of decided he would do jazzy socks for his wedding, so now (NAME) decided well it'll have to be jazzy socks and boxers, so.

Good plan.

So I think they're going to be superheroes.

Ah who I -- there's only Batman and Superman isn't there?

Spiderman.

Flash Gordon.

Yeah, He Man.

Who?

He Man?

What's that?

(interruption) Is she a bit young for this?

(interruption) He hasn't got like a picture.

Has, I've just bought underpants from (pause) Primark with He Man on.

Yeah but you know how like Superman's got like the 'S'.

Yeah I know but all the -- all the,

(interruption) And Batman's got like the bat.

Yeah but all the underpants have just got like the people on.

Ah (pause) (interruption) okay.

(interruption) And then there was Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles

Teenage Mutant (pause) Ninja Turtles

Yeah what did I say?

Teenage

Hero

Hero Turtles (laughter)

Heroes in a half shell

(laughter) Em yeah but anyway yeah so that's what we're doing.

Are you going to do the same with knickers for the girls?

I've got them bridesmaid's knickers (laughter)

I've already bought them just for a photo like that and then, but they're the wrong colour to go under their dresses. It's going to be proper white trash, getting them, like I've got -- I've got them valour tracksuits already I just need to put their names on the back. (laughter) They're all staying over the night before so I thought I'm going to have a proper cheesy girly sleepover, like.

With bottles of blue WKD? (laughter)

Well no, 'cause I'm in the hotel. (laughter)

Oh that's the reason why. Did you see em,

Turn up trashed for your wedding or anything (interruption) that's fine (laughter)

(interruption) No em (pause) (cough) (pause) Four weddings? Do you -- do you watch it?

Yeah I haven -- I haven't watched this series (interruption) but I watched the last one.

(interruption) Oh I had it on the other night when I was trying to do some syntax, and em there's this woman on it she was as rough as anything and had a really lovely (pause) castle and lovely wedding dress, spent all this money on a really nice wedding and then she's sat at the top table drinking bottles of blue WKD and then she had -- shouting at one of the guests for not dancing, like swearing at her, shouting at her, for not dancing and ruining the day. And then this guest left, and then she's hanging out the window of the castle in her bride's dress with her bottle of blue WKD and her tab shouting at this guest, 'Ah and you get home!' Bloody awful. Thinking that's your fairytale wedding. Ruined. (laughter)

God.

Bet the groom's just like 'Aw I'm so lucky.' (laughter)

I don't see the point in getting totally trashed at your own wedding though, like.

No I don't.

Yeah have a drink (interruption) to celebrate

(interruption) You don't want to be.

But you don't want to be like,

You don't want to be like falling over and everything.

No.

You wouldn't remember it.

No.

No.

You paying all that money and you're, just ruin it (pause)

Wait till your wedding day I bet you're sorted by about three o'clock.

I don't drink (NAME).

You will on your wedding day.

I won't (laughter) I don't drink (pause) (interruption) don't drink any

(interruption) Not have any now?

Don't -- didn't dri- (pause) drink at (NAME)'s hen do, we were cocktail making, I had like two sips of like each drink or something, and just passed them along the line.

Thought you were going to say passed out then. (laughter)

Has been a while. (laughter) No I just don't really drink, I don't really see the -- I don't need it to have a good time so (pause) it just wastes money if I drink it now.

Ah but red wine's nice (pause) for a bit of a (interruption) chill

(interruption) Ugh (pause) No I don't do wine

Love red wine.

(pause) Ah well. Em what about like traditions at home then, you know like Christmases and, stuff like that. Did you like do like -- do like the same. (laughter)

We don't really have, like traditions as such I mean we nor- well before I moved out we used to spend, me my mum and my sister used to have Christmas Eve together, we would go and see my grandparents if we weren't seeing them on the day, then we would sit down and watch like a Christmassy themed movie in wor new pyjamas 'cause we always get (interruption) new pyjamas,

(interruption) Aw.

Each -- each Christmas so we'd get those Christmas Eve to open but other than that we don't really like n- nothing for real- really for birthdays or anything like that. That's the only tradition we kind of have, and that's kind of out the window now (pause) now that I've left home.

Mm. We, I don't think we've ever had any kind of tradition, for anything. My family are very (pause)

Em very,

What's the (laughter)

What's the word? Conventional. (laughter)

(interruption) That's the word.

(interruption) Is that the word?

Could be. That'll do, so no -- no traditions.

Oh fair enough.

We're starting them for (NAME) though.

Yeah well I think that's the way it should be.

Yeah (interruption) like this year,

(interruption) Should have your own little traditions.

This is the first Christmas that me, and (NAME), and (NAME) will have had Christmas like just us three, 'cause like last year we went to Belfast.

Yeah.

And the year before we went to my sister's.

Mm.

So we're going to do all, when he goes to bed on Christmas Eve, we're going to do all the house like a grotto for when he gets up in the morning.

Aw God he'll love that.

I know. I mean c-

I mean 'cause at least he can like remember stuff now as well.

I know, I'm dead excited, we did it for his birthday, when he went to bed we did up all the house like put balloons everywhere, his room was just, you know like a ball pit?

Mm.

But balloons. (laughter) Had hi- all of his bed just like covered in helium. Oh mental, it'll be good.

Oh at least you can start your own traditions though, like.

Aw I can't wait.

We're trying to like mix ours in, there's like mine and me mam's traditions mixed in with, (NAME)'s mam and dad's traditions mixed in with, mine and (NAME)'s traditions. It's (pause) (sigh) difficult (laughter) with that family at times (pause)

Em what about like travelling and stuff, like where was like your favourite holiday you know like (pause) when you were younger or something? (pause)

(pause) I think ours -- our (laughter) we weren't very conventional. (laughter) We didn't re- I don't really remember any holidays at all (pause) and then (pause) since then (pause) I don't know

You went away just you and (NAME) didn't you? Recently. Not recently but you know what I mean like.

Yeah but it rained the whole time we were gone (laughter) wasn't that good.

Where did you go?

I can't even remember.

Not go to Spain? (interruption) go to Spain?

(interruption) Somewhere in Spain but (interruption) can't remember.

(interruption) Wasn't Barcelona was it?

No but it began with a B, that's right. I've got no idea, I've got such a bad memory but it rained the whole time we were there and that was -- it was really bad, apparently in Spain they have a thing where pensioners get a week's holiday for free.

Ah right.

Like they'll pay like for them to go to hotel and,

What the Spanish pensioners?

Yes.

Right ok.

And they get a -- a week's holiday just in, like in Spain but,

Yeah.

Be like us paying for pensioners to go to like to Blackpool for a (interruption) weekend

(interruption) Yeah

Or something.

Like an old (interruption) biddy's trip.

(interruption) I don't know if it's a weekend or a week, but the time that we were there coincided with that, so our hotel was just, mental with pensioners. (laughter) It was, not nice. It wasn't the best.

And what about honeymoons, where are you planning to go like.

New York.

(interruption) I like,

(interruption) Desperate to go to New York.

Think I'd like Vegas.

See (NAME)'s not fussed about Vegas we're going to.

I'd love Vegas.

What wor plan is we think, is do three to five nights in New York, see everything there, then (NAME)'s got this dream of going over the Grand Canyon in a helicopter, so I said for (interruption) his,

(interruption) So good.

Mm.

Said for his em like wedding present if I can afford it, I'll pay for him to do the helicopter trip over the Grand Canyon. So what we're thinking is do, mainly New York but then I say scoot over to Las Vegas (laughter) like a five hour -- five hour plane journey or whatever, then like do that and just stay for two days, and have like a bit more of a relaxy kind of holiday 'cause reckon he'll be like knackered 'cause he's em, but he's not that fussed. But I think it's somewhere you've got to say you've been at least once.

I'd love Vegas.

Would you get married again? Would go and go to a little white chapel?

I said to (NAME) (interruption) I'd -- I'd prefer to do that than have a,

(interruption) I think that'd be awesome.

All the palaver and all the money of a proper wedding but (interruption) he's not up for it.

(interruption) That's what I've been saying to (NAME) like from like last year; I was like, 'We're doing this totally wrong, we should run away just the two of us.'

Yeah I think -- I,

But it would it would devastate his mam.

I think it would be too much for (NAME) (NAME), to go from his traditional catholic upbringing.

Mm

Y- You know he's already going, I've always (pause) ruled out the church thing.

Yeah

To then to go to Vegas I think that would be.

(laughter) (interruption) A step too far

(interruption) A bit much. I don't think his family could handle it.

You'd have to do it like a bit of a quickie marriage when you got there though, I reckon that would be awesome. (laughter) Just buy like a really trashy white dress and just like. If you're already married anyway, I think it would be fun.

(pause) I'd rather just go over there and do it, 'cause then you get a holiday as well.

True true.

Incorporate the honeymoon in within and, I'd need, you'd need a canny bit of money though for -- for gambling. So the money that you'd save from all the flowers and cake and everything.

(interruption) Yeah.

(interruption) Yeah.

Gamble it.

Yeah that's probably true actually.

I'd love it. (laughter)

Can't imagine you as a gambler to be totally honest.

I win poker (cough) every time I play.

Ah right ok.

I think there's one time I haven't won and I came second (pause) I don't know how I win but I do. 'Cause it takes one who pays for a fiver so.

Ah right.

Get thirty quid so (interruption) not that great.

(interruption) Better than nothing though, (interruption) better than losing a fiver

(interruption) It is good. It's good 'cause I play, we only play when we go to Belfast, so it's like (NAME)'s dad and (NAME)'s uncles and his brothers, and they all get really        he -- 'cause he doesn't like anyone talk- he's one of those like really serious just sits with his straight face, doesn't like anyone having a chat or a laugh, and I really don't know how I'm winning (pause) when I win.

Yeah

He gets so annoyed by it.

Just luck.

It's not just luck.

Skill.

I don't know what I'm doing, but it's not just luck. (laughter)

Do you go to Belfast quite a lot then?

Em (pause) we've been over about, since we've had (NAME) we've been over about four times (pause) three, four times but (interruption) one of the times we went over

(interruption) Going to say you go over like go over once a year don't you if -- if not (interruption) more

(interruption) Yeah we try and go once a year but like last year we went for all of summer.

Ah right.

'Cause was like when (NAME) graduated we went a- we went once he'd finished all his exams and everything, went over for the whole summer.

Ah that'd be nice, is it nice there I've never b- (laughter) (interruption) it's just like

(interruption) It i- it's really good, yeah I di- I didn't like that time, that was a bit too (interruption) much being over there.

(interruption) Too long. I do, it's somewhere I fancy going is Ireland it's like really, countryside's supposed to be like.

Yeah it is.

(interruption) Gorgeous and stuff but.

(interruption) There's some lovely places. It's a good night out and everything the peo- the people are really friendly which I was a bit worried about you know this whole hating the English thing?

Yeah

But I've only had one person say anything to me about it.

The things is though I think it's -- it's not so much (pause) I -- I don't know I kind of get the feeling that they like northerners.

Mm.

'Cause I think it's a similar like sort of like kind of,

Yeah.

Yeah maybe.

Em (pause) I don't know like you get the same kind of warm welcome when you come over here I think.

No the, it's true about the drinking thing with the Irish though they're all, every time we go to anyone's house, no matter what time of day it is they offer you bloody loads of drink. (laughter) The second you come in the house, all of them.

Mm.

Supposedly they're like really nice though like, if they (interruption) get drunk they're not,

(interruption) Aw they're lovely. They are lovely they're all, like (NAME)'s friends obviously we go and see all them and then we go and visit their parents and stuff 'cause (NAME)'s quite close to them all and they all just give you just loads of food and (pause) (interruption) no-one lets you get up.

(interruption) It's really like homey isn't it like community based is the impression I get from (interruption) what I've heard.

(interruption) I think that's nice.

Ah they're lovely they're lov- lovely people over there, got some good friends with the girls over there now. So I'm going to go see them for New Year and that.

Mm-mm.

Yeah. Is (NAME) like really religious then, 'cause I know they are in Ireland.

He was when he moved over here, his family are, and when he moved over here he was, but then he's gradually losing it.

Yeah.

He doesn't he's -- probably I'd say -- I'd say he's agnostic now, he doesn't, he used to get really angry if I said that, you know like if you go, 'Oh for God's sake' he used to get really offended (interruption) when I used to say that.

(interruption) Right.

(interruption) When I first met him.

(interruption) Yeah.

I hadn't realised he was.

He's not anymore.

Yeah.

He's not bothered about that at all now but it's just, we used to have massive arguments about religion 'cause I just I think, I don't I think it's all just -- just causes stress (pause) (interruption) and arguments.

(interruption) I was going to say it's all the -- all the major conflicts in the world are down to religion (interruption) don't they basically.

(interruption) Well we used to have these massive arguments about religion, and it'd be because of him 'cause I'd be going well whatever, but I don't believe that. And he be going, 'how can't you believe it,' and he'd get (interruption) really.

(interruption) See I -- I don't think I'm kind of religious at all I think there's something, I think there is some sort of kind of higher power, karma, fate something I -- I think (interruption) there is something.

(interruption) Well that's what (NAME) says now.

But I don't think (pause) unless I'm shown that there's a God I don't think there is one like.

I don't.

Yeah.

I think there's something that's got to happen for you to kind of.

Sometimes it just helps to think that there is.

Yeah, it's (interruption) like a comfort.

(interruption) You know like Yeah, don't know.

And if it's everything you've always known, been brought up that way but -- but that's the thing it is hard to kind of for some people to take the other side isn't it, (interruption) to see there are other options.

(interruption) Well yeah that's all I really, I just think all the aggression of belief, or non belief comes from the believers rather than.

Yeah 'cause everyone else is just kind of like, 'Eh whatever.'

Well yeah

You believe what you want to believe (laughter) just get on with it.

I remember one time we were in Belfast, (NAME)'s dad, was about four o'clock in the morning and he c- he'd been out and it was, think it was, it was around Christmas, he'd been to his friend's house and they'd been having (cough) drinks and that (pause) and he came back and me and (NAME) were sat out in the garden like just listening to some music and that 'cause they've got like this little.

Gazebo is it?

I want to say shed but it's not a shed it's like woo- little wooden structure.

Like a summer house?

Yeah.

Type don't (interruption) know what the actual word is.

(interruption) Yeah and we had some music and that and his dad came in and he sat down, it was when I'd -- I hadn't, known (NAME) a few months and he asked me if I believed in God, and (NAME) had kind of prepped me, 'Don't say anything about religion.' (laughter) So his dad sat down and was like, 'Well (NAME), do you believe in God?' And then em (NAME) squeezed my leg and I went, 'No.' And his dad shook my hand and everything, like admitted to (NAME) like for years he's had all these doubts and, didn't know what to believe and

Yeah

And he'd been too scared to say it (laughter) I was just like ah I pride myself on letting (NAME) come out the religious closet. (laughter) (pause) (NAME)'s -- he's digging his fingers in, and he's dead scared expect that (pause) I think it was the first time I went over and me and (NAME) had only been together about three months.

That's a good opening question (laughter) isn't it?

Little bit of stress.

Worked out well. (laughter)

True, true.

Are your parents like religious at all then?

mine?

Mm.

Em no not at all. I think I've n- never been to church in their life.

Really?

Not like, I've -- you know like I've -- I've been with school things.

Yeah I was just going to say like school.

But you know like when you just go watch the nativity, I've never been to like a service or anything.

Ah see we normally go for christenings, I've been christened but my mum doesn't really go to church. She used to when she was younger and my dad used to be in the choir, can you imagine my (interruption) dad in the choir?

(interruption) Ahh (laughter)

I've got pictures, it's so funny but like my grandma and granddad still goon my dad's side. But no I feel like a hypocrite like we go for weddings and we've been for christenings and, used to go for Remembrance Day when I was in brownies and guides.

Ah yeah

But not really (pause) No

I'd like to go for midnight mass 'cause everyone goes on about that.

Loads of my friends do but I've never been.

No (NAME) (NAME) always wants to go and we just, I've -- I've -- I've wanted to go for ages, but just haven't got round to it.

Yeah

Just to see what's it's like 'cause everyone goes on about it, meant to be a nice little thing.

(interruption) Yeah

(interruption) Mm I'd quite like to do that. (cough) But you said you were in the brownies and guides?

Yeah

Don't look like that I was! (laughter)

(laughter) Oh it was good at the time, looking back. (laughter) No probably not so much.

Did you just do it like until you were fourteen?

I di- I was in (pause) brownies for a while, then moved onto guides when we went to high school then I went back and helped with the brownies. Em but then I soon gave up I didn't really enjoy going to like, doing all the camp and stuff.

Yeah

Em I think I just outgrew it, had other stuff I wanted to do like other hobbies I wanted to kind of do and it was just taking up my time, but.

Ah that's fair enough.

So.

What else did you do?

(pause) art and just liked stuff like that creative stuff I wa- cannot draw can't paint but I just liked being kind of (laughter) creative, I just remember like all of our art lessons me and (NAME) just sat there and like, oh there was (NAME) 'cause like our A-Level class.

Who's (NAME), which (NAME)?

(NAME) (NAME)?

Ah right yeah

Our A-Level class the whole lot of us loved doing what we were doing (pause) but -- but we -- it always came down to, well I cannot paint, I cannot draw and then you'd have to -- have to give a reason for why you were doing stuff, 'Because it's pretty?' 'No that's not a good enough reason (NAME).' No but no I just loved doing stuff like that just messing on but.

You al- you always had good ideas though didn't you?

I had the ideas but they never came through to the finished product.

Mm I know that (interruption) feeling.

(interruption) I could see it in my head and exactly wha- how it should look but couldn't get it that stage because I didn't have the skills.

I never,

To -- to do that.

I didn't have any ideas at all ever, makes it just a bit, well I don't know what to do.

I had the ideas it was just never seeing them through and that's why I like photography because you can (pause) have everything in front of you, you don't have to imagine anything you don't have to like, kind of pretend there's stuff there you can just set it all up and if it works great, if it doesn't you can tweak it straight away whereas with a painting like i- once it's done it's done so (pause) yeah.

Didn't know that (NAME) (NAME) did (pause) well you've just said she wasn't very good was she not?

She di- she like used a project -- she took photos and then kind of did projection work and then kind of like kind of traced them type thing. (laughter) I think -- I think that's what she did.

I don't remember her being arty though.

She was more textiles based she ma- I remember she made a hooky mat em of -- of (NAME) and like it's where you pull like all the -- the fibres through you've got like a hook and em it's like ribbons like loops of ribbon wool stuff and you pull it through and then you can make it into pattern and that was really nice. But she basically used.

Of -- of (NAME) like (NAME) (interruption) (NAME)?

(interruption) (NAME) yeah yeah so like she ha- projected a picture onto this mat, drew the picture out then made it out of fabric.

Why do people keep doing (NAME)? (NAME)'s painted (NAME).

'Cause she's kind of pretty sh- sh-

Yeah.

Like,

But,

(interruption) And she's up for stuff.

(interruption) (NAME) (NAME)'s really lovely.

See with (NAME), (NAME)'s quite skinny and she's a little more self conscious, as much she doesn't -- you wouldn't think she is she's a little more self -- self conscious when you get her in front of the -- the camera, 'cause I've tried to do pictures of (NAME) a million times, and she doesn't relax quite as easy as (NAME) does. And (NAME)'s just got kind of this quality about her.

(NAME)'s lovely looking.

Mm, I've done quite a few stuff, well I've done a mixture of stuff with.

Have you done (NAME)?

I've done some pictures of (NAME), I've done pictures of (NAME), I've done pictures of (NAME).

Which pictures?

The ones with the masks on in the school hall, I did (interruption) for my

(interruption) Oh yeah well it was the paintings I was thinking of.

Yeah.

I forgot you did the pictures of that one.

'Cause I did the photographs for

GCSE wasn't it?

No, I did them for uni, I just hired the school after, I did some pictures for them for GCSE and put them on to like, Photoshopped them and put them onto t-shirts for one project. But then the masked pictures I did the photos f- a- at our old high school but I did it for uni and then (NAME) did some paintings of them 'cause one of her tutors had seen some, the (interruption) pictures like the photographs.

(interruption) Yeah.

And then she took some more, and did some more of (NAME) and (NAME) they come out gorgeous, they were all coloured (interruption) whereas mine were black and white.

(interruption) Are they the, like the,

With (interruption) big things

(interruption) The spotty kind of things in.

Yeah they were really nice but er (NAME) just photographs really nicely, she's just got right proportions and stuff so.

I like em who is it I like (NAME) the photos of you've done of her, she's dead photogenic.

Yeah she looks totally different, the ones with the fringe that she (interruption) asked us to take off 'cause they were a bit raunchy

(interruption) Yeah

And her boyfriend's dad was now on Facebook.

Oh (laughter)

I had to take those off, but I just found them again this morning actually 'cause I'm trying to set up a website, so need to ask her whether she'll let us use them or not 'cause I very much doubt that dad's (NAME)'ll -- er if (NAME)'s dad'll find them so

Aye.

She does photograph nice.

Did you er did you do like a photography A-Level then or, could you not?

I did art A-Level em 'cause they didn't have a photography department at our,

Yeah

At our school and then em, went on and did a degree but it was em more researched based and more kind of what was in the photographs not how you took them which was good (pause) but didn't give you half as much kind of knowledge into studio lighting and stuff as what I thought it would so it was a bit of a shame of a -- not wasted three years but there could've been more into it.

Yeah

But em but that's just all stuff I'm trying to pick up now since I've finished uni so, trying to get more studio based really.

You can kind of learn all that yourself can't you?

Yeah you can, y- there's tutorials online there's, you can go and do like night courses and stuff, so it's all stuff you can pick up but you can't pick up having the kind of.

It's probably better to learn it like through trial and error 'cause then you get a better i- you can (interruption) find things out on the way don't you?

(interruption) You know how it works properly rather than going 'Ah right ok this has to be sat like this,' and not (interruption) knowing why.

(interruption) Well you're experimenting a bit more.

Yeah.

So you're not just saying, 'Right someone's told that this is going to to work so I'll do it like this.'

Yeah you're experimenting and that's when you get obviously the nicer shots 'cause it's not what you're expecting so (pause)

Ah that's good, em do you get some really weird stuff like in work like weird,

Yes.

(laughter) Pictures.

Oh my God, did I tell you about the -- the guy who came in, guy in a wheelchair, he's tattooed and pierced and he's -- he's canny lad but he brought pictures in of his girlfriend, or I assume his girlfriend, I hoped it was his girlfriend because if not I've (laughter) just been involved in something majorly wrong. (laughter) And he came in with these pictures and like full Anne Summers get up she had on like no -- no bra but she had like a pink feather boa and like frilly knickers and suspenders and she wasn't a small girl. (laughter) Then on the next two pictures there was her little friend, a little vibrating friend was (interruption) on the pictures.

(interruption) Oh right. (laughter)

Em.

Thought you meant him.

No no so she was like sat kind of like doing things with this and then (interruption) legs spread and,

(interruption) What did they want you to do? Put them onto canvas?

Put them onto canvas and there was people in the shop.

You wouldn't want that on canvas would you? (laughter)

He was buying them for her -- for her birthday or something and he's been in again and got, (interruption) new ones of her in a different outfit.

(interruption) Yeah but,

(interruption) And we've got to be careful what we have,

(interruption) Canvas that's for display really isn't it?

Display in her room em (laughter) but yeah like so we've got to be careful what's seen on -- on the screens and also when they're printed. So I had to like wait until the shop was practically closed before I could actually print them, and stretch them 'cause for all,

How bad do they (interruption) get?

(interruption) We can't -- We can't like aw I've se- I've seen well I didn't serve them but (NAME) served this -- this one lad came in the shop with his memory card, and was like, 'There you go.' So she's like flicking through the photographs and then he goes, 'That's the photograph I want.' Eighteen lads with nothing but pink t-shirts on. (laughter) Nothing but pink t-shirts on em and then as soon as she got the picture upon the screen he li- he like went a bit red and then the rest of the lads walked into the shop, (laughter) and em were like, so she wanted -- they wanted eighteen copies of this photograph at about a twenty by thirty kind of size of all these lads just wearing pink t-shirts (laughter) been like some mad lads' holiday but, again like we can't say no because it's everyone's right to get what they want onto the canvas, but obviously we've still got to protect who comes into the shop so like you don't want a child coming in and seeing someone with a vibrating friend. (laughter) Do you know what I mean like and we've just got to be careful 'cause like you don't want to get into trouble but you can't like at the same time say,

Can't say no.

'No that's disgusting you can't have that done.' 'Cause it's people's freedom (interruption) of expression isn't it?

(interruption) Still, you'd think that they'd probably send it to website rather than coming in.

I'd be embarrassed.

Yeah that's what I mean.

I know.

So like a website at least yeah fair enough they can see your photo, know what you look like.

Yeah

But they're not -- you're not -- you're not there going (laughter)

(laughter) This is what I,

Thanks.

Yeah that's what I do on a weekend.

Do you Photoshop them, when they bring them in like that?

Depends if they need Photoshopping (laughter) we took her back fat out.

What?

We took her back fat out 'cause she was kind of stood at the side like this and she had like so we took her back fat out, we don't want to make her feel nasty about herself. (laughter) (cough) (pause) Yeah we see allsorts, I've seen someone's whole birth from (pause) that end as well.

Why why?

What?

Because they had them on the memory card and they were like, see if it was me I would pick the one photograph I wanted, put it on a USB pen and say, 'This is the photograph of my new born child I would like.' Not sit there and have someone got through the whole kind of mess.

But even if it was any- even if it wasn't private photo, I wouldn't want a stranger just looking through aw there's my camera.

We saw em em, someone who was on Big Brother came in with his memory card, he was also dating a celebrity and there was pictures of her bum,        off of that.

(NAME)?

No.

It's got to -- it's got to be a Geordie one.

No, I'm not telling you. Can't (interruption) tell you.

(interruption) Can -- can you later? (laughter)

Em like and yeah just so trusting though, and like obviously it's our duty not to (pause) do stuff like that but, I wouldn't dare you wouldn't anything you wouldn't want people to see.

Mm-mm.

Like even if it was a spur of the moment thing you wouldn't decide, oh yeah I've got pictures of all sorts on my memory card, I'll just pop in here and get a picture done.

Well I'll tell you what happened, when was it, think it was when I was about seventeen.

Mm.

And my phone broke and I took it to the Carphone Warehouse to get it fixed, and the guy there then he kn- like 'cause I'd been in a few times with my phone and stuff so I kind of knew who he was, and he knew where I worked came into work, held up his phone, had a photo off my phone on his phone.

What?

It was a pot- a pho- 'cause I'd -- I'd saved

That like he'd taken off.

He'd like.

Mm.

Taken a ph-

Mm and it was on his phone.

Of you?

No no no not of me it was of a pig, (laughter) but still that could've been any photo so I've always been like really conscious of the fact that he'd got, it was a photo of a pot bellied pig so that's, well it's not fair enough but it's fair enough you know.

Yeah.

But, yeah

See that's the thing like (interruption) I'm so,

(interruption) Bit weird.

Untrusting of people and I mean we've got to obviously we get a lot of pictures of kids and stuff in so like after a week or so once we know they've collected their picture and they're happy with it everything has to go.

Mm.

Because obviously y- you can't be too careful you don't know if anything happened to our computers, if anyone stole our computers if we got, someone hacked into our computers and gets a hold of those pictures we've just got to be so careful but so many people just don't give a       . They'll come in with like pictures of their naked kids and like you're just thinking well that's fair enough I'm not a weirdo but,

You don't know I'm not a weirdo.

Yeah exactly and like I'm I mean I'm probably too over the top safe about stuff but.

Better to be (interruption) that way though (interruption) isn't it

(interruption) It's just common sense though you don't just take all of your photographs into some random shop.