Archive Interview: TLSG37
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Speaker 1: | interviewerTLSG37 |
Speaker 2: | informantTLSG37 |
Age Group: | 41-50 |
Gender: | Female |
Residence: | Tyneside - Gateshead |
Education: | Left school at 14 |
Occupation: | Housewife (previously Factory Worker) |
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E (pause) five two |
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thanks (pause) ta (pause) eh could you tell us first eh where you were born please (interruption) (unclear) |
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I was born at eleven Victoria Street (pause) Gateshead |
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eh (pause) aye yeah whereabouts is that again |
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that's just against the f eh the flats |
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eh these these flats down here (unclear) |
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no Barney Close the old eh |
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eh yes I know where you mean now |
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Victoria Street |
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yes |
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eleven Victoria Street |
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yeah eh and eh whereabouts else have you lived since then you know where how long did you stay there for instance |
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ah well eh me mother got out (unclear) they were building houses for people then down the Old Fold (interruption) and I went down the Old |
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(interruption) that's right aye oh aye aye and eh where where'd you live after that |
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well I got myself married you see |
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yes and |
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I was married when I was about nineteen |
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aye |
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and eh I I lived in with my mother for not quite two year but varnigh |
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aye |
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and I |
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ah yes yes |
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and I shifted I got an exchange to be near my mother you know |
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yeah |
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in the flat |
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oh aye |
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but I lived in there for about oh (pause) eighteen or nineteen year |
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yeah |
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maybe a little bit longer I divn't know but eh then I come over here cause they were (pause) |
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they were modernizing them (interruption) over there were they |
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aye they were modernizing taking the fireplaces out putting the central heating in |
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ah yes yes are you are you going to move back into there are you are you |
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ah no I've got a family there for my family now they're just (interruption) for young couples or old people you kn |
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oh yes I see aye ah |
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the best |
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aye |
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well I liked Lobley Hill it was eh nice and cot more like a country eh |
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yes yeah it is (unclear) |
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you see (pause) well the flats I think they are just |
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eh these flats are (unclear) |
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aye I think the flats can be nosy |
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you mean you've sort of too many people around you and that |
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well you in the flats you're too closed in |
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aye |
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you can either see too much or (unclear) (interruption) nowt at all you see |
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aye that's right aye yes you prefer this house |
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oh aye this one aye |
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yeah (pause) yeah what about eh what about the people in this area do you think (interruption) that people are very friendly |
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oh I just say hello and that |
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aye |
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that that that's all (pause) know and they speak (interruption) how you're getting on |
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aye (pause) aye |
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(unclear) I haven't really made friends |
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aye you're not particularly friendly (unclear) |
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they're they're not they're I wouldn't |
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no |
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(unclear) if anybody comes to my door and they wanted a mashing of tea or (pause) a bit of this if I would be willing to give owt |
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aye |
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and I would that was all I wouldn't talk about them |
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aye yeah |
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I w wouldn't talk because I divn't like that if you cannot help a person well (pause) they would be hadaway get you y |
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no |
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oh I couldn't be like that |
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yeah and eh what about eh Gateshead as a place to live compared with Newcastle would you rather live in Gateshead than Newcastle |
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well I I'm not a one for I haven't been I wouldn't get lost in Newcastle |
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aye |
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the only time I gan to Newcastle is in the market |
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oh aye |
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something |
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yeah |
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you know or if I have the money well I I never have the money now well I never had any money (laughter) |
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(laughter) aye |
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ehm if they if we they want owt cheap on the sale we gan to |
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aye (pause) do you do you ever shop in Gateshead do you ever shop in Gateshead very much |
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oh aye I shop in Gateshead |
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aye |
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the (unclear) now I'm in the stores |
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yeah uh-huh |
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aye I think eh the stores is all right |
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aye |
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they're reasonable |
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mm-hm but you wouldn't like to live in Newcastle you're |
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now me daughter would like to eh live away |
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aye |
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live away because sometimes she thinks I divn't know (pause) I think she would like to live in a nice place (pause) like Cornwall you know |
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uh-huh oh aye |
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you know |
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aye |
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(unclear) but I think she dreams a lot poor soul (laughter) |
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(laughter) (pause) you think you would stay in Gateshead now do you c can't say you'd moving anywhere |
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I would like to live in a nice house meself you know bit green and |
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aye |
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but I haven't got (laughter) |
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eh have you ha y you've never actually been away from Tyneside at all for a very long periods |
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oh I've never been away from Tyneside I've always been |
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ah what about holidays (unclear) been away (unclear) on holiday |
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oh on holidays I divn't gan for holidays man |
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aye |
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eh Whitley Bay or South Shields for a day or two |
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so you've never actually been away from Tyneside at all |
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oh nah |
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in the whole of your life |
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not (interruption) me I haven't |
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aye (pause) (unclear) that's eh |
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I haven't been out the road |
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aye that's remarkable (interruption) that aye |
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nah I've never been away |
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ehm (pause) |
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eh me father was born in Newcastle I think (pause) at Oakwell Gate (pause) I think now and me mother eh was born in Barney Close Victoria Street |
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aye uh-huh |
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mm-hm yeah |
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me father was a hard work we were never hungry mind because we had a good father when we were little |
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mm-hm what did what did your father do in fact what was your was father's job |
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name |
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no what was his job |
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well he was a labourer |
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aye |
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oh (unclear) yeah |
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they had to do a bit fiddle and all one thing or the tother |
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yeah |
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well me father come off a hawking family |
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yeah yeah |
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you know I mean me granny used to maybe sell kippers or |
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yeah |
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or put herself to other little bits of business to bring the money in you had |
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yes aye |
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well they sort of learned off her me father had other brothers and they used to chop sticks well they had made theirselves a little business you see |
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yeah uh-huh |
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well they had kept it up (pause) when the war was on |
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yeah |
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and I think when the war (pause) they had |
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mm aye aye |
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and they lived down there well they just died (pause) and me father just went to work |
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yeah |
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me father went to work at Clarkie's |
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aye in Clarkie's went to work at Clarkie's and they (pause) he just worked there until he took until he took bad he was a shunter |
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aye |
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and he was on the shunting a long time and I think the boiler had boi eh bursted |
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aye |
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and he had never been the same you know and when he got wet |
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aye |
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because he had a bad chest to start with and he had eh used to wear them old fashioned eh body shirts and that they were woollen well they had to take all his clothes off and he put he wrung |
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that's true |
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and he put them back on again |
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aye |
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thought they were dry but they're not dry |
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aye |
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and i it had turned out he had pneumonia you see he had been standing about with |
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aye (unclear) mm (pause) eh and eh (pause) how old are you by the way |
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me I'm forty five I look like sixty five (interruption) now |
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thank you oh I wouldn't say that (laughter) |
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wouldn't say that at all |
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I haven't had the best of man |
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sorry you haven't? |
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I haven't had the best of man I've had a hard life (pause) of it |
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aye |
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ah if it wasn't for my people God help me |
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that's your mother's people (unclear) |
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nah my people |
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aye yeah |
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me parents |
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aye |
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I couldn't get |
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does he aye |
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Tin Street but it was a a it was a pity for him like I mean eh he was eh (pause) (unclear) child |
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aye |
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you see |
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mm-hm (unclear) |
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well he had seen a lot of drinking |
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(unclear) |
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well with (NAME) not having any mother (pause) I mean you've got to have look ower these things (pause) |
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mm-hm |
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but he was a fool (pause) you know he was a he was a kind man but he was a fool he made us suffer oh I divn't know he was right through this war though |
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aye |
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he was wounded with fifty fifty percent |
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aye |
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(unclear) and eh (interruption) |
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but never mind the drink got him it it it it ruined him |
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yeah |
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the drink got a hold of him |
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(unclear) eh how many children do you have |
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many k |
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how many children have you got |
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ehm well I've had eight that's seven alive I've got three lads |
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yeah |
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the oldest lassie's twenty four |
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aye |
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the other one's twenty three she's married (pause) and (NAME) (pause) she'll be gan on to eighteen wor (NAME)'s be twenty wor (NAME)'ll be six just sixteen |
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(laughter) |
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wor (NAME)'ll |
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(laughter) |
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he'll be ten on January the sixteenth (laughter) |
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(unclear) it takes you a time to remember them (laughter) |
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(laughter) |
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(laughter) and eh are they how many of them live at home are some of them married |
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well wor (NAME) |
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aye |
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my mother oh they love them (pause) in fact she's she's comp she's fetched them all up me father was good to them he shoed them and (pause) oh aye |
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eh |
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oh I've been glad to |
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(laughter) |
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and it's me who's borrowing the money off he he had the money he used to put a little bit ten bob know the notes |
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aye |
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he used to say 'keep that for (NAME)' that was for me for to get bread in |
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aye |
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oh what a good father I had |
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aye yeah (pause) eh do you work at the moment do you work at the moment |
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me I'm not working |
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no no |
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I'm eeh I've had to gan to the doctor's last week I've had to get me blood tested |
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aye have you been bad |
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oh I was (pause) |
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aye |
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up in the morning |
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aye |
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I used to get funny sensation |
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aye |
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and they used to say 'mother your lips are blue' well I used to get worried I thought I had a bad heart |
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aye |
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and me daughter says (unclear) 'you divn't say because your lips are blue that you've got bad heart mother' |
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ah probably something (interruption) (unclear) |
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you're anaemic |
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aye |
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and eh I've been champion since I went on them |
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aye ah very good |
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but the iron are the best ones |
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aye that's (unclear) |
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though I got me blood tested when he looked me in my eyes you knew and when he pricked me (interruption) finger |
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mm-hm (pause) aye the iron deficiency like |
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because when I had (NAME) I had to get five pints of blood |
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mm-hm aye |
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in the Queen Elizabeth |
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aye eh (interruption) |
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I was weak you know cause I've got had nay blood so I went up to Queen Elizabeth and I got my blood test as well got to wait (pause) they sent it to the doctor |
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mm-hm yeah |
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eh what eh (pause) what jobs have you done in your life can you remember what sort of work you've done |
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oh well you see with me being nay scholar I'm nay scholar you see I cannot read |
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oh |
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just a little bit |
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aye |
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I can write my name mind you |
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yeah |
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but oh I was |
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aye |
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very deaf it knocked me right back |
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it would do aye |
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you see and I think I was on the very I was very quiet when I went to school |
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uh-huh |
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and when I used to see the teacher's reaction I couldn't hear her |
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aye |
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you know I sort of got frightened |
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aye |
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I was terrified and I think it's not but now these days it's different |
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aye you mean it would be better at school now like |
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it's different you see |
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aye |
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but I was very clever with my hands at school |
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mm-hm |
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very clever (pause) but for reading and eh sums oh it's |
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yeah (pause) eh |
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I mean I was sensible you know |
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aye (laughter) |
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I wasn't daft people think because you cannot read |
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I know that mind (laughter) |
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ah no not at all altogether there |
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yeah how old were you when you left school |
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fourteen |
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fourteen aye |
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aye fourteen |
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aye what eh and what did you do then what |
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well I was the oldest one in me mother's |
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yeah |
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for about twelve month (pause) at the paint works the National Paint Works at the time |
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oh aye it's still there isn't it that eh |
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I think it is now my father eh come in he says 'I can get you started at Clarkie's' |
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yeah |
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when I was sixteen well me and another lass had went out to |
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aye |
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down at the bottom of the high street |
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mm-hm |
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I says 'right you are' well we had went to the wine place and the poor soul he looked at the two of (unclear) he says 'I'll take you' you know I felt awful cause it was a bit lassie you know |
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(laughter) aye |
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I divn't know because I was eh little and I was sort of maybe because I was looked stronger |
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aye |
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and the other lass was a bit thin (pause) because eh you have to hoy the boxes up you see |
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oh aye aye |
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so I never minded see I went home at dinner time I said |
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aye |
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oh well I didn't want to let me father down you see and I didn't know what to do oh I says 'I'll take it' he says 'it's nearer home for you' so I went to (NAME) the lass who I went |
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aye |
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the wine place I says 'you can take that job I've got' (laughter) |
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aye (laughter) |
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aye |
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so I worked in Clarkie's for about five year y (unclear) |
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aye what did you do there |
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well it got the war was finished and it got a bit slack (pause) and eh I was finished at Clarkie's and I had just went to the oh Powell's |
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(unclear) |
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the jam factory |
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oh aye yes |
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then I had went down to the eh (pause) Davidson Wood (pause) for a few then I got married |
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aye and y you n haven't worked since you got married or |
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I no I've always wanted |
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aye too many |
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in fact I feel like working now I think if I got mesel out to work it might help but eh (pause) you know I've got a funny feeling |
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aye ah probably be good for you that |
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I might lost weight (interruption) you know |
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aye |
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and that might bring me (pause) me mind you know (interruption) |
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aye bit better for you aye |
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you know it might get us out |
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yeah |
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know mixing in with people and that |
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uh-huh oh right aye |
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because I'm not a one for ri (pause) I like a nice person (unclear) I couldn't be bothered with a cheeky p (laughter) |
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uh-huh aye oh a lot of women like say that they just you know they would they like to work after they're married just to (interruption) keep themselves busy like |
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aye I've always wanted to |
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aye |
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but when I gan out to work I want to bring mesel on (pause) you know I would like to put something away |
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aye uh-huh |
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something away I've always wanted a nice home |
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yeah |
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I believe in saving up and putting something by |
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do you |
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because me father was a saver and that he used to |
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aye |
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and I but I've never had a chance and still I used to say to my man 'if you gan out to work (NAME) I'll gan out to work' and I says 'but that's the only way we'll bring worsel on' but I say 'as long as you're drinking' I says 'we'll never get on' I says eh |
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aye |
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but oh no (NAME) was still a fool (pause) you know he was paymaster in the bar my man (interruption) when he was amongst other men he forgot (interruption) about home he forgot about the cupboard (pause) (interruption) had to be filled up (laughter) (interruption) |
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(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) |
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well I think they're more interest now |
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aye uh-huh |
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oh I think they're more interesting now oh there's me light went out |
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(laughter) aye |
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aye I think they're more int and yes I think the bairns they shouldn't be backwards now I mean if eh if they are backwards it must be something do with being wrong in birth or |
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aye |
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something wrong if they've something they're |
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mm-hm (unclear) ah that's definitely true aye (pause) aye |
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you know there's there is you know when you're frightened you know you cannot take your lessons you cannot |
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aye |
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I know if I'm worried oh I couldn't do a thing I couldn't I couldn't do a thing I couldn't do as I couldn't cook I couldn't do |
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aye yeah aye |
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if I'm worried I got very upset and I get like sickly you know |
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yes wh what |
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make mesel bad |
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yeah eh whereabouts do your lads go to school what s what school are your eh lads go (unclear) |
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well they're Catholics |
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aye like eh that will be eh |
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Saint Wilfred's is it aye is that a good s do you think it's a good school |
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that's a good school |
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aye (pause) eh and do you think ehm |
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but I've got a laddie that gans to Beacon's Lough |
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oh aye uh-huh |
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well I wanted to take him away from there |
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aye uh-huh |
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I mean he (pause) gans to church |
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aye |
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and ehm (pause) but he (pause) didn't want to he didn't want to leave his friends his mates and I thought |
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aye oh aye |
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and he didn't want to mix in with other well I thought about |
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aye |
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so I says 'right you are' I says 'I'll I'll take you up to the school' (pause) you see and eh (pause) he was all right like |
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mm-hm mm-hm (pause) mm-hm aye you were you born a Catholic were you (interruption) aye I see aye |
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aye I was born a Catholic aye |
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oh I I'm Catholic myself as well |
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are you |
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aye mm-hm (pause) and eh |
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you would you would be in Saint Joseph's parish were you (unclear) |
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I was at Saint Joseph's aye |
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aye s (interruption) |
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I left Barney Close when I was seven year old to come down to the Old Fold (pause) because they were all condemned them houses |
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oh aye yeah (unclear) |
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we had to gan down the Old Fold |
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yeah (pause) yes yes it was sort of a very Catholic area at the time |
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oh aye it was nearly all Irish people |
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aye (unclear) aye |
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come from miles |
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eh (pause) |
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I used to (unclear) play |
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aye |
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well (pause) I wasn't a one |
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aye |
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but eh (pause) but some of the (pause) the kids could be funny know they're a bit two faced |
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uh-huh |
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you know |
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yes |
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they could be two faced some of them well I wasn't the one that really bothered them |
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I mean I could see that |
Speaker 1: |
uh-huh |
Speaker 2: |
you see (unclear) used to say 'if you're not going to I'm not going to' |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
you know (pause) sometimes I would I used to p we use to play cannon and hidey |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
and oh if the skippy rope was all the go then (interruption) I used to love that |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
the skippy ropes (pause) |
Speaker 1: |
wh ah you used to make real things like did you aye |
Speaker 2: |
you know little shawls (interruption) you know you can make them oh into a canny size |
Speaker 1: |
aye uh-huh (pause) oh aye aye |
Speaker 2: |
as big as a house if we had the wool (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
so ehm I was more for when I was young (pause) to help me mother |
Speaker 1: |
aye uh-huh aye |
Speaker 2: |
cleaning (pause) you know polishing we used to have a lot of brass old fashioned stuff |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
we used to help her |
Speaker 1: |
yes aye |
Speaker 2: |
she's still alive though |
Speaker 1: |
is she |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye |
Speaker 1: |
whereabouts is she then |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) it's just over Clover Avenue |
Speaker 1: |
oh aye aye |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
eh |
Speaker 1: |
could you tell us what you call each room of this house you know what your usual word is for them |
Speaker 2: |
well this is supposed to be eh (pause) your dining room |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
no this your is the sitting room |
Speaker 1: |
(unclear) aye |
Speaker 2: |
and that's the dining room |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
that's |
Speaker 1: |
(unclear) what's the what do you call this out here |
Speaker 2: |
that's eh well eh we call it the kitchenette but we call it the scullery |
Speaker 1: |
aye uh-huh |
Speaker 2: |
you know this is the kitchenette and that's just two rooms |
Speaker 1: |
aye and eh |
Speaker 2: |
upstairs |
Speaker 1: |
mm (pause) and eh (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
eh (pause) what |
Speaker 1: |
do you have a sheet of tin that you put in front of the fire to get it going |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) what do you call the thing you put in front of it to get it going |
Speaker 2: |
the bleezer |
Speaker 1: |
aye uh-huh that's all |
Speaker 2: |
what for (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) just wanted to know if you used the word or not |
Speaker 2: |
(laughter) oh I divn't need me bleezer for that though |
Speaker 1: |
oh (unclear) good well |
Speaker 2: |
that's a that's a hungry bugger that |
Speaker 1: |
aye (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
ooo I've a hungry fire |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
think it takes fai a ton of coal for this |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
you put a I've got to save all my rubbish and put it down there it'll burn |
Speaker 1: |
aye (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
oh you can hear it roa it's a good talker that |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
ooo it roars the noise |
Speaker 1: |
(unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
when I first come into this house and we lit this fire (pause) |
Speaker 1: |
aye hm |
Speaker 2: |
it was the back back of the fire |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
because (unclear) when we lived in the flat you know it heats wor hot water (interruption) this fire you see |
Speaker 1: |
uh-huh aye |
Speaker 2: |
but in the flat it didn't we had a coke oh it was terrible (pause) like a coke little oven in the |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
it was mucky and it was awful |
Speaker 1: |
mm eh (pause) ehm (pause) do you watch the television very much |
Speaker 2: |
oh I like the telly |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
you know (pause) I like a nice play |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
something real what's been happen years ago |
Speaker 1: |
oh aye aye |
Speaker 2: |
something that eh is true |
Speaker 1: |
yes aye |
Speaker 2: |
something true oh I I divn't like nay nay false (pause) you know |
Speaker 1: |
(unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
something true |
Speaker 1: |
oh I see aye yes some some sort of historical |
Speaker 2: |
you know what happened years ago |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
true stories |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
you know |
Speaker 1: |
and eh |
Speaker 2: |
no I like the The Song Of Bernadette |
Speaker 1: |
oh aye aye (pause) yes uh-huh |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) that was true that I I've got faith in that |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
I like that (pause) and eh (pause) oh I like a true eh films |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
well eh if I happen to if I have time (pause) I might have to b eh (pause) be off you know to watch it then I might have to be taken away from it you see |
Speaker 1: |
aye uh-huh |
Speaker 2: |
it could |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) that's right aye aye |
Speaker 2: |
then there'd be stuff burning (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
aye (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) but eh (pause) you usually stay in the house in fact at nights you don't (interruption) go you don't go out very often at night |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye I never gan out (pause) no if I gan out I take me bairns well I divn't |
Speaker 1: |
no |
Speaker 2: |
nah I never gan out |
Speaker 1: |
mm |
Speaker 2: |
no I I'm never one for leaving me bairns I've never left me bairns I've always had them |
Speaker 1: |
no (pause) yeah (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
I've always had well once or twice my man used to say 'howay and I'll take you out' oh I says 'no' |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
I like a good fire for them |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
and I like to see that the me house is tidied up and everything's right |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
and I I wanted them in the bath |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
and I wanted them you know |
Speaker 1: |
yes aye |
Speaker 2: |
I wanted them everything all right but when I well did gan out |
Speaker 1: |
aye I know what you mean mm |
Speaker 2: |
you know I was glad to get home to see if they were all right |
Speaker 1: |
hm did you |
Speaker 2: |
because if you heard it about little bairns have been left you know and left and they've been eh well (unclear) used to gan (unclear) you know |
Speaker 1: |
aye yes |
Speaker 2: |
and I (unclear) if owt |
Speaker 1: |
aye (pause) yeah (pause) eh this is a this is a question |
Speaker 2: |
vote |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
n I vote for Labour |
Speaker 1: |
yeah and eh do you always vote the same way |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
mm-hm yeah is that eh (pause) why do you think that is why do you think you always vote the same way (interruption) is it b |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
aye you you think it's proper that you should (interruption) vote for that party like you know aye |
Speaker 2: |
uh-huh (pause) we're just labouring people |
Speaker 1: |
yeah (pause) eh (pause) do you think eh (pause) I mean do you think the Labour party you know is really good for working people (pause) you know |
Speaker 2: |
oh I think so |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
ooo aye I think so aye |
Speaker 2: |
I I'm not mind you I know nowt about politics (interruption) I haven't had any education (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
but I can see eh (pause) I mean I cannot (interruption) pick the paper up and read you know |
Speaker 1: |
aye (pause) yeah |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
aye (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
but I think mesel the man (pause) I mean (pause) the man (pause) he was in a lot of difficulties hisself he was in a lot of debt |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
and he's never he did help with the best way he could |
Speaker 1: |
mm-hm aye that's yes (interruption) aye they were getting there as well like |
Speaker 2: |
and I think they've eh if they had a (unclear) it would've been all |
Speaker 1: |
mm-hm yes |
Speaker 2: |
it's just like well at at home when you just everything's gan |
Speaker 1: |
mm-hm aye |
Speaker 2: |
and I think the man was in a lot of difficulties and he had getting it all (pause) (interruption) just about finished |
Speaker 1: |
aye that's right aye |
Speaker 2: |
then they start voting |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
then the that poor man got out |
Speaker 1: |
aye yeah nearly there and eh (pause) do you usually vote eh in every election do you |
Speaker 2: |
I vote for the council |
Speaker 1: |
aye you do (unclear) aye |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) vote for the council |
Speaker 1: |
you do for that aye (pause) okay (pause) ehm |
Speaker 2: |
oh me man used to believe in voting he did 'put your vote in' |
Speaker 1: |
mm-hm (pause) aye quite right too |
Speaker 2: |
he said 'put your vote in' |
Speaker 1: |
yes (pause) eh (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
ehm (pause) do you think that you ever change the way you talk according to the person you're talking to |
Speaker 2: |
do you ever change |
Speaker 1: |
mm do you think you every change it |
Speaker 2: |
div I ever change |
Speaker 1: |
definitely not |
Speaker 2: |
I'm still I I could gan away to America I would still talk the same way |
Speaker 1: |
wey aye |
Speaker 2: |
I (unclear) believe in that |
Speaker 1: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
get away |
Speaker 1: |
do you think eh do you think everybody should do that like do you not y (pause) (interruption) you don't believe in people changing |
Speaker 2: |
well eh it's just pride you know they like theirsels |
Speaker 1: |
(unclear) aye |
Speaker 2: |
just like theirsels swell headed that's all just like their money man (unclear) they get off |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
they forget well I couldn't be like that |
Speaker 1: |
no |
Speaker 2: |
I'd be just the same (interruption) in me own way |
Speaker 1: |
even if you aye even if you had money like you reckon |
Speaker 2: |
if I had money (pause) I would still be the same way the same talker I would never forget (unclear) |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
oh I couldn't I would think about me hard me hardships me hard times |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
I would never forget |
Speaker 1: |
n eh (pause) and ehm (pause) what about eh (pause) other accents of England you know like Cockney accents or Liverpool accents do you like to hear people (unclear) like that |
Speaker 2: |
what |
Speaker 1: |
you know ah eh Cockney accents |
Speaker 2: |
well I like to hear a nice talker you know (pause) a nice talker |
Speaker 1: |
aye w what do you mean by a nice talker like |
Speaker 2: |
well I think it's different from your own like you know |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
if they're a nice eh spoken people |
Speaker 1: |
like on on the television for instance (pause) the people on the television |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
uh-huh |
Speaker 2: |
I wouldn't like nae skitty remarks (pause) (interruption) not like that |
Speaker 1: |
aye (pause) yes (pause) yeah (pause) what eh what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 1: |
no I mean eh |
Speaker 2: |
I I I'm a person that feels sorry for a person that eh if they stutter or owt like that |
Speaker 1: |
aye I was thinking more about eh (pause) you know just their ordinary |
Speaker 2: |
oh you're all right (unclear) |
Speaker 1: |
do you think I talk just more or less |
Speaker 2: |
wey aye yes (unclear) |
Speaker 1: |
aye just an ordinary Gateshead sort of person |
Speaker 2: |
just an ordinary you are |
Speaker 1: |
aye yeah (pause) and do you think I talk (pause) more or less the same as you |
Speaker 2: |
no you're more (unclear) politer |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
I'm a re I'm a real Tynesider |
Speaker 1: |
aye not as Tyneside as you |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
but |
Speaker 2: |
you're |
Speaker 1: |
but definitely Tyneside |
Speaker 2: |
aye (pause) aye |
Speaker 1: |
aye (pause) I mean you would be able to tell I came from Gateshead if I hadn't told you |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye I would mind you come from Gateshead but you're more politer |
Speaker 1: |
yeah (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
I would know |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
eh they're all sort of local words |
Speaker 2: |
eh what |
Speaker 1: |
do you say 'it's just aside the fire' (interruption) would you say that |
Speaker 2: |
aye (unclear) |
Speaker 1: |
aye that's okay eh (pause) bairn (pause) bairn |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
bairn |
Speaker 2: |
bairn |
Speaker 1: |
aye 'the little bairns' aye |
Speaker 2: |
oh I say 'the bairns' |
Speaker 1: |
yeah aye |
Speaker 2: |
'the bairns' |
Speaker 1: |
yeah bait |
Speaker 2: |
ba |
Speaker 1: |
bait |
Speaker 2: |
what's that |
Speaker 1: |
no what you take to work |
Speaker 2: |
bacon |
Speaker 1: |
no bait |
Speaker 2: |
bait |
Speaker 1: |
no (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
oh his bait |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
his bait |
Speaker 1: |
you do u you would use that word |
Speaker 2: |
I use bait but not eh what eh (pause) bait |
Speaker 1: |
bait aye (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
aye (pause) (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
eh (pause) beck |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
meaning a stream |
Speaker 2: |
means what |
Speaker 1: |
a stream |
Speaker 2: |
a stream |
Speaker 1: |
do you use it |
Speaker 2: |
oh I divn't know nothing about that (pause) no |
Speaker 1: |
no no don't use that one eh |
Speaker 2: |
but I'm not educated man I telt you |
Speaker 1: |
oh I I think it's a local word actually |
Speaker 2: |
is it |
Speaker 1: |
aye I think so ehm bonny |
Speaker 2: |
money |
Speaker 1: |
no bonny |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
aye you would use that aye |
Speaker 2: |
I used that a lot bonny (laughter) |
Speaker 1: |
aye eh (pause) bray |
Speaker 2: |
bread |
Speaker 1: |
no bray |
Speaker 2: |
bray that's hitting |
Speaker 1: |
for to hit aye you would would you use that |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
yeah (pause) ehm (pause) bullets |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye sweets uh-huh |
Speaker 1: |
that's sweets aye (pause) eh clamming (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
clamming that's hungry |
Speaker 1: |
aye you would use that aye |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
ehm (pause) boody |
Speaker 2: |
boody glass eh |
Speaker 1: |
boody aye (pause) uh-huh you would use it |
Speaker 2: |
that's glass eh (interruption) crockery broken (interruption) you know plates owt like that |
Speaker 1: |
(interruption) aye (interruption) aye (unclear) (pause) aye eh (pause) clarts |
Speaker 2: |
clarts aye that's the |
Speaker 1: |
|
Speaker 2: |
coin |
Speaker 1: |
aye coin a corner |
Speaker 2: |
coin a corner aye |
Speaker 1: |
aye would you say that |
Speaker 2: |
oh aye |
Speaker 1: |
aye (pause) aye |
Speaker 2: |
sometimes turn a corner coin a corner aye |
Speaker 1: |
eh cree |
Speaker 2: |
tree |
Speaker 1: |
no cree |
Speaker 2: |
cree |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
cree (pause) |
Speaker 1: |
pigeon cree no |
Speaker 2: |
oh the pigeon (interruption) cree aye |
Speaker 1: |
aye yes you would eh (pause) dunch (pause) use it (pause) would you use that |
Speaker 2: |
Dutch |
Speaker 1: |
dunch |
Speaker 2: |
dun oh I divn't use that |
Speaker 1: |
wouldn't no |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 1: |
eh (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
fettle yeah aye I use that |
Speaker 1: |
aye you use that eh (pause) gully gully |
Speaker 2: |
gully what's that |
Speaker 1: |
eh bread knife |
Speaker 2: |
n ah the gully |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
no I divn't use that (interruption) divn't use a gully |
Speaker 1: |
you wouldn't use it no ehm (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
howk a howking |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
sometimes |
Speaker 1: |
sometimes |
Speaker 2: |
not very very seldom |
Speaker 1: |
yeah (pause) ehm (pause) hoy |
Speaker 2: |
hurry |
Speaker 1: |
hoy no hoy (interruption) for aye |
Speaker 2: |
hoy oh aye when you're hoying |
Speaker 1: |
aye mm-hm |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
ehm (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
lo load |
Speaker 1: |
no a lowe for a light |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 1: |
no ehm (pause) eh mense do you say 'be more to your mense to get some work done' or (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
no I've never |
Speaker 1: |
wouldn't use that no eh (pause) parky |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 1: |
aye about your about your food |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
aye mm-hm mm-hm |
Speaker 2: |
very parky aye |
Speaker 1: |
eh (pause) ehm (pause) mell |
Speaker 2: |
smell or (unclear) |
Speaker 1: |
no mell |
Speaker 2: |
mell no |
Speaker 1: |
no for a hammer |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 1: |
no |
Speaker 2: |
never use that |
Speaker 1: |
ehm (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
knooled |
Speaker 1: |
aye |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) been knooled |
Speaker 1: |
being knooled aye |
Speaker 2: |
aye |
Speaker 1: |
you use that uh-huh (pause) eh I think (unclear) |
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