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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG36

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG36

Age Group:

31-40

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 15

Occupation:

Housewife (previously Hospital Catering)

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  Interview Transcript

Speaker 1:

right eh (pause) well to start at the beginning could you tell us eh where you were born please

Speaker 2:

eh yes (pause) Nursery Lane (pause) it's just down the bottom

Speaker 1:

in eh (unclear) area is it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

aye yeah and eh whereabouts else have you lived since then you know how long did you stay there (unclear)

Speaker 2:

ehm I was there till I was four

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and then we moved down (unclear) beside Saltwell Park

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

eh and I lived there till I was married

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and then I've lived here fourteen years

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear) eh which eh which of those places did you like living in best you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

eh well I can't remember much about (interruption) Nursery Lane

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

(unclear) ehm Saltwell Park area (pause) well it's mainly the only part I really know

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) (interruption) quite like it here

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah it's where I live really like now (interruption) (unclear) down there

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

how does it compare with here you know what's what's it like living out here

Speaker 2:

well it's all right once you get to know the place (interruption) you know but I'm like this it takes us a long time I can still get lost in Newcastle (laughter) (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye (interruption) yes yeah (pause) what about ehm you know the the neighbours and that round here do you find they're (interruption) pretty friendly and that you know

Speaker 2:

oh yeah I get on with them yes they're all friendly yes

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

I (unclear) quite well with the neighbours

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think you would eh do you think you would miss this area very much if you had to leave you know

Speaker 2:

mm yes I suppose so

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

say

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

after fourteen year y you know you get settled

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

it would take us a long time to settle elsewhere

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) ehm what about eh Gateshead as a place to live in you know do you think you would ever go to live in Newcastle for instance (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no I wouldn't I wouldn't like to eh move away

Speaker 1:

no (pause) a lot of people in Gateshead say that like that they wouldn't eh (pause) (interruption) go (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

what about eh (pause) Tyneside you know do you think you're fairly attached to Tyneside like would you ever would you ever want to go to anywhere (interruption) else (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh not not particularly no I like ehm I like the country and that you know (interruption) I think it's eh it's very nice

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) I don't think it's particularly Gateshead it's just my family are here you know

Speaker 1:

aye yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

that's just about it

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) but I suppose if (unclear) my family moved elsewhere then I would

Speaker 1:

aye yeah do you do you ever think that ehm that Tynesiders are very different from people from other parts of the country you know in any particular way

Speaker 2:

no I think it's ehm

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

just depends eh (pause) down Yorkshire people are very friendly (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

but ehm there's good and bad isn't there all over (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye that's (unclear) that's true like lots of people think that you know that eh Tynesiders are more friendly for instance than (pause) people from other parts you know but you haven't found this particularly

Speaker 2:

no (interruption) no I eh (pause) I find people are friendly wherever I go really (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (unclear) mm (interruption) yes yeah (unclear) (pause) ehm (pause) whereabouts eh were your parents born please were they born here as well

Speaker 2:

ehm my mother was born in Scotland

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

and my father was born in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

aye yeah and eh what eh what did your father do (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

he was a flour he worked in a flour mill Spiller's all his life

Speaker 1:

oh aye (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

he's retired now of course (interruption) been retired a few year

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh (pause) he was in the navy when he was eighteen apart from that he always w worked at Spiller's

Speaker 1:

aye mm mm ehm just to complete the facts could you tell us eh which age group you come into on that eh card please if you just say the letter

Speaker 2:

eh in between thirty one and forty

Speaker 1:

ta

Speaker 2:

C (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah and eh (pause) on what basis you occupy this house (pause) presumably C is it

Speaker 2:

eh rent it (interruption) from the council (laughter)

Speaker 1:

ta mm yeah ta (pause) ehm (pause) now eh you're not eh working yourself at the moment are you (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no no

Speaker 1:

ehm

Speaker 2:

I used to work in the RVI

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

eh night times part time

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but eh packed it in

Speaker 1:

mm what did you do there like you know

Speaker 2:

eh in the catering department

Speaker 1:

aye yeah what eh what did you think of that did you (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I liked it very much I thoroughly enjoyed it but it was my husband he said it was his leisure time (unclear) I should be in

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes (interruption) yes that's true yeah

Speaker 2:

in the house (unclear) it was him that didn't like it

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) what ehm what other kinds of jobs have you done in your life you know what did you do (pause) (interruption) when you first left school (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I was a shop assistant (pause) shop assistant

Speaker 1:

were you

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm oh I I liked it I worked for Dougal's but they've closed down now

Speaker 1:

oh (unclear) the bottom of Jackson Street

Speaker 2:

uh-huh mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah mm mm

Speaker 2:

I think the new road's (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah that's true yeah

Speaker 2:

it wasn't really a busy shop to start with but eh

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

it got worse when they closed all the shopping area down

Speaker 1:

aye yeah but you used to enjoy working in the shop did you

Speaker 2:

mm yes

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) ehm (pause) how old were you eh when you first left school

Speaker 2:

fifteen

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think ehm do you think you were glad to leave school or not

Speaker 2:

I loved school

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

mm I cried the day I left

Speaker 1:

aye whereabouts did you go to school like

Speaker 2:

Corpus Christi

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ah yeah that's where my family (unclear) aye (pause) it's meant to be a good school that like (interruption) from what I hear

Speaker 2:

yes (pause) mm-hm (pause) Mr (NAME) eh he was the headmaster at Saint Aiden's he was (interruption) my schoolteacher at eh (pause) (interruption) Corpus Christi (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye (interruption) yeah (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

he's just died

Speaker 1:

yes I know he was my uncle in fact

Speaker 2:

oh (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) you'll be a cousin of (NAME) (NAME) then (unclear)

Speaker 1:

that's right aye

Speaker 2:

from Eastbourne Avenue or are (interruption) they still there now (laughter) z

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (unclear) they're not still there now (NAME) (NAME) lives in ehm Tynemouth now (unclear) she's married

Speaker 2:

mm she's married I th I thought she would be like

Speaker 1:

aye (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I've never saw her since ehm when she was at Fenham (pause) and I've never saw her since

Speaker 1:

aye that's right yeah her family live in eh (pause) (unclear) ehm Lyndhurst Grove or somewhere now you know down in (interruption) (unclear) Low Fell

Speaker 2:

oh (pause) mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) surprising (unclear) it's like the number of people I run into that (interruption) I can sort of you know know (unclear) in one way or another (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) mm-hm that you know (laughter) (interruption) yes

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh (pause) would you say that ehm you know looking back on your education like would you say that it it had been very useful to you in your life since you left school you know what I mean (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh yes

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) I often wish I could still go back to school really

Speaker 1:

aye did you have any further education after you left you know (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no no

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) often wish I had

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know i in fact I still would like to go back to school

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh I think it helps your family

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yes

Speaker 2:

you know it more or less what you know your your children learn like

Speaker 1:

that's true yeah they come in with their homework and (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (pause) yes

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) what do you feel about eh you you have some children at school don't you

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah what eh what do you feel about their education you know do you think it's very important for them like (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I think the education's there if eh if they want it you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I mean now I've got one son that didn't like school at all

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and he didn't like to work at school at all but now he's left he realizes that he should have eh stuck in (interruption) you know (unclear) schools

Speaker 1:

aye yes (pause) aye (unclear)

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) of course the chance passes you by but eh he can go on now to eh night school (pause) (interruption) or day schools even (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye yeah (interruption) mm yeah (pause) I think

Speaker 2:

(unclear) that's what he wants to do like you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) I think there's (interruption) quite a lot of people

Speaker 2:

but we didn't get any opportunity like that no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

I mean the the boys did for trades and things like that

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but the girls ehm (pause) there was sort of nothing for girls

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

except cooking classes and things like that

Speaker 1:

mm mm (pause) would you like to ehm do you think you would advise your children you know to stay on at school after fifteen if they were (interruption) if they were thinking about it you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

if they wanted to yes uh-huh oh yes I would prefer them to stay on really especially now there's no jobs to get (interruption) you know in this area

Speaker 1:

yeah I know it's it's (interruption) an additional problem you know I think yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) very poor uh-huh

Speaker 1:

I mean if they when they (unclear) they just sort of hang around the place (interruption) all too often (unclear) aye

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

do you think eh do you think education's changed very much since you went to school you know do you think the the things they teach at school (unclear) very different

Speaker 2:

well (pause) they're a bit more advanced I think eh to what they used to be

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I mean there's still the same subjects like isn't there

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but I mean they've got they've (unclear) got all kinds to help you know like you know television for instance it's (interruption) a good thing

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I mean (pause) (unclear) it learns you a lot and shows you everything doesn't it eh even to mathematics (interruption) and things like that it learns you

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) aye

Speaker 2:

but where I was at school they had one teacher and (unclear) about fifty kids and

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

that was it if you didn't learn it then you had it (interruption) (laughter) you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) aye (unclear) they've got a lot of advantages (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm they have

Speaker 1:

mm mm (pause) ehm (pause) whereabouts you were living ehm down near Saltwell Park when you were fairly young yourself like (interruption) when you were (pause) round about twelve

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

(unclear) did you think ehm did you think that was a good good area to live in you know from your point of view as a child at the time like (interruption) did you enjoy your (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes yes I really did uh-huh (pause) and I mean we had the park and everything

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah it's

Speaker 2:

not only that you used to play outside most days they don't do that now

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I mean they don't occupy their minds like we did we used to play kick the block and relievo and (interruption) all sorts outside

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) yeah

Speaker 2:

but not now I think television's eh they're in the house most of the time

Speaker 1:

(unclear) you find that your eh your children stay (interruption) in (unclear)

Speaker 2:

we were more happy we were happier kids I think

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

you know and then there was the war and (unclear) blackout and things you know

Speaker 1:

yeah were you evacuated during the war

Speaker 2:

yes I went to Brompton I was at Masham and then Brompton (pause) (interruption) near Yorkshire

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) I think the war ended when I was about eleven

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

mm-hm then all the teachers came back out the forces and eh (pause) we started getting proper lessons again

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) I (unclear) I I get often get the impression that eh kids don't don't play as much now as they did even when I was little you know and we had all

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

all kind of games and things (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I mean you used to go home and get your tea and then you were outside you know you used to stay out as long as you could like

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

but you really enjoyed yourself well now y you see the bairns sitting round I'm bored I've got nothing to do

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 2:

and eh we we often say we used to swing on lamps and everything

Speaker 1:

yeah (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

were they bored during the summer holiday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

nothing to pass their time with man

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm

Speaker 2:

and if it's raining it's bedlam

Speaker 1:

oh aye yeah (pause) can you (interruption) remember

Speaker 2:

back to school today though

Speaker 1:

yes yes (unclear) you'll have a weight off your mind I suppose

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

can you remember ehm what you used to call (pause) eh a game where one of the kids has to chase the others to try to touch them what did you used to call that when you touch somebody and it's their turn to chase you

Speaker 2:

tuggy was it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye yes that's what I used to call it (pause) and ehm what did you used to what did you used to say about the one whose turn it was to chase you know

Speaker 2:

you were on (laughter)

Speaker 1:

they were on yes that's true and ehm what did you call eh you know the things that (unclear) little lads flick along the ground (interruption) what you (unclear) call them

Speaker 2:

marbles

Speaker 1:

do you not have another word for them

Speaker 2:

liggies was it

Speaker 1:

aye ah yes that's right that's what I used to call them yeah

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh oh what did you say eh when you wanted to call a halt in a game you know when you wanted to stop the game or something did you used to have a word for that like a truce word you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh billy billy bug is that what you mean

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

(unclear) games broke up (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm (pause) still eh still on the line of what words you use for things eh can you tell us please just what you call each of the rooms in this house you know what your normal word is for each room

Speaker 2:

ehm kitchenette living room

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

bedrooms bathroom toilet

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

airing cupboard

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

the hall

Speaker 1:

the hall

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

and eh what do you call you know to get out of eh an old fashioned back door you have to lift the what do you call that

Speaker 2:

the latch

Speaker 1:

aye ta do you ever call it a sneck

Speaker 2:

well yes well sometimes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes for a latch

Speaker 2:

the the top part was the sneck to us we used (interruption) to rattle it when we couldn't get in (interruption) (unclear) (laughter) (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (unclear) (interruption) yes yes (pause) (interruption) and ehm (pause) what do you call eh the thing you stand in front of the fire to get it going you know a sheet of tin that you

Speaker 2:

oh the bleezer

Speaker 1:

the blee (interruption) yes yeah ta

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) can you tell us please just eh (pause) what eh what sort of things you like to do in your spare time you know (pause) if you ever get any that is

Speaker 2:

spare time well I like knitting and I love reading

Speaker 1:

aye yeah mm what eh (unclear) what kinds of things do you read you know

Speaker 2:

mostly love stories

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I like them best (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

if I'm without no books like I go to encyclopaedias

Speaker 1:

mm-hm aye do you y do you usually sort of stay in of a night rather than go out like I mean (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I'm in every night except Friday

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

Friday my husband and I go along for a drink (interruption) and that's all we go out

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) that's all yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

mm (pause) of course we have a big family like and eh (pause) he's not working (pause) he's never worked since ehm a fortnight before Christmas

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but eh it was still normally even if (unclear) we'll have occasional meal out (interruption) you know (unclear) if he's working

Speaker 1:

aye yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh we don't go out very often

Speaker 1:

aye what about eh the television do you watch that very much when you're

Speaker 2:

I'm not keen on television no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

I like a good film

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

and you know if it is a good film I'll watch it otherwise I can't be bothered with telly

Speaker 1:

aye is eh is the television usually on you know of a night time

Speaker 2:

oh the bairns (interruption) eh yes the kids like it

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

from the start they're

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know with them if there's ehm cartoons and that on

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

eh they're in in fact they go out on the street and shout and tell everybody ehm (interruption) that the cartoons are on

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah yeah it's amazing the appetite of kids (interruption) for the television like you know they're

Speaker 2:

yes it is

Speaker 1:

they love to watch it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm but eh y you don't find that the standard of programmes is very good do you not (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well (pause) I would say ehm comedy (pause) it's too daft to laugh at half the time

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

eh I like a canny show if it's if it's anywhere decent like

Speaker 1:

yeah yes

Speaker 2:

ehm I don't care much for the loud pop groups some some are all right

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh that Top Of The Pops thing well well the kids watch (interruption) that like of course

Speaker 1:

oh (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but they like noise (interruption) you know whereas I don't

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I'd rather hear a sentimental song as a

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

clangy banging one (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah (pause) eh (pause) and do you think there's any ehm in the way of you know recreation activities like do you think there's anything that you would have like to have done but you've never actually sort of got round to or you've never had the chance to do you know

Speaker 2:

well when I was a kid I loved sport

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

all kinds sport

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and eh there seemed to be no more opportunities once you had left school (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

aye it's it's a pity (interruption) that

Speaker 2:

that was it

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

but I love to watch it on the telly now that's the one thing I do like ehm

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

the Olympic Games and things like that

Speaker 1:

aye yeah the European Games were good (interruption) weren't they quite recently like (interruption) I though they were (unclear) ehm (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) yeah (interruption) mm-hm (interruption) that's about eh (pause) what I like television for you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yes

Speaker 2:

it takes you to them whereas you couldn't have the chance to see them otherwise (pause) (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) did you used to like to run and that when you were

Speaker 2:

yes mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah at school yeah

Speaker 2:

oh yes and the hop skip and jumps and

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

oh I loved them

Speaker 1:

I think

Speaker 2:

(unclear) races and (interruption) netball and swimming (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) yeah (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

I went in for everything

Speaker 1:

yeah but you didn't get much chance after you left school (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no pity I think there's perhaps a bit more facility for that sort of thing now like you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes there is uh-huh and funny I've only got one in my family that likes sport (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and eh I thought it was a pity because eh you can go a long way now you know but there's none of them got the same appetite as for sport as what I had you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

seems funny

Speaker 1:

aye it's a great thing like I like running (interruption) you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) what eh what difference do you think it would make to you if if you won a lot of money tomorrow you know say if you won the pools or something tomorrow what eh

Speaker 2:

what difference would it make well it would be helpful (pause) I wouldn't say I'd go mad with it like (interruption) but eh I would

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I would buy a house

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) plenty clothes for the kids (unclear) never really had you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) because I've got eight

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I'd have a nice garden

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but eh I wouldn't go I wouldn't really like to win an enormous amount

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

because I think it spoils a lot of people's lives

Speaker 1:

I suppose that's true yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't go round buying sort of you know very expensive things (unclear) I mean

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

yachts and (laughter)

Speaker 2:

oh no no (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

that's for them that like that sort of life isn't it I mean there's nightclubs and whatnot for all of them (interruption) like that sort of life (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) yeah (interruption) do you think eh you don't think (unclear)

Speaker 2:

just live an ordinary life

Speaker 1:

aye it wouldn't change (interruption) your way of life very much at all (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) no (interruption) no

Speaker 1:

no (pause) that's good (pause) ehm (pause) these are just eh just a few questions about your opinions on some eh some ordinary matters you know eh what do you think eh parents should do eh when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should check them

Speaker 2:

(unclear) well they say spare the rod and spoil the child like but eh it depends on yourself doesn't it I I mean I shout at mine if eh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

if they get me (unclear) but I won't hit them very much I don't believe in it

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

but of course eh when you've got a lot they get on your nerves sometimes you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

but eh (pause) I don't believe in in bashing them all over the place

Speaker 1:

yeah ye it would be very rare would it when you would ever hit hit one of them

Speaker 2:

they must have been really acting theirself all day before I lose (interruption) my temper with them (unclear) (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye (interruption) (unclear) (pause) and what about ehm you know a a young person of say sixteen or so what eh what kind of control do you think their parents should have over them very much or

Speaker 2:

well I I I let don't care if ehm if they go with decent people if you know who they're with

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I don't like them playing with riff raffs and (pause) whatnot I I mean if eh if we tell them not to go with them well they don't they stop

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

but ehm in (unclear) times we had a an episode of eh my son falling asleep on the bus and he woke up at ehm (pause) Tyne dock

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

and the silly fool just got off the bus and walked back

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

instead of I mean we had the police out looking for him

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh now if he had went to the police (pause) and told them they would have phoned and told (interruption) the police the police who would have put us right

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

they would have saw to him coming home but he was so stupid I I mean he I know I realize he's got a fright

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter)

Speaker 2:

he's woke up he's been asleep there was no conductor you see it was a pay as you enter (pause) and he walked he got back at four o clock (interruption) in the morning

Speaker 1:

oh dear me

Speaker 2:

I mean we'd had the police out all night

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

when he wasn't in I thought (unclear) well we'd better phone and tell the police (interruption) because he's never done it before

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and oh what a carry on

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

never mind he he got back safe and sound like but oh (pause) I hope I never have to live through that worry again

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I can imagine what people have or go through when they're eh missing

Speaker 1:

yeah so you I mean you you like to know where they are (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes it was just not knowing mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

now he had went to the pictures he had been to the football match on Saturday Newcastle

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) came in had his tea and went out about half past six and he said I says 'where you going' he says 'I'm going to see eh Where Eagles Dare' on the Odeon

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

and that was that eh and I've just realized the midnight movie was coming on and I say where's (NAME) he's not in and we waited one o'clock and I couldn't wait any more

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and I went and told the police (pause) but that's what happened fell asleep on the bus

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

now normally he's in half past ten (pause) ehm never later you know

Speaker 1:

mm aye yeah (pause) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but there's a there is a few in this street you know they're real bad

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and one of them's away one of them's been away and come back home and (pause) I don't know why but eh (NAME) was going about with one

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

like to the pictures and the baths and things you know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

my husband had a word with him and told him that he had to stop going about with him

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

then when we were telling the police ehm (pause) about this you know well he says well I'm pleased that you did like they're a bad lot

Speaker 1:

aye yeah mm

Speaker 2:

but I think ehm (pause) I think it's the way you bring them up if eh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

if they're going to be that way you know

Speaker 1:

aye I think that's that's (interruption) true aye yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

it's the way you bring them up whether they're truthful or what

Speaker 1:

mm yeah ehm going on to something different like and this is a one question you don't have to answer if you don't want ehm which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

vote eh Labour

Speaker 1:

yeah if eh you've always voted the same way

Speaker 2:

yes more or less

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh why do you think it is you know that you that you always vote that way is it eh (pause) ehm do you always think that they're the (interruption) the best party to vote for

Speaker 2:

no I yes I think I think Labour is for the for the majority of people eh

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

I think Conservatives are for the shop owners and the people with money (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

I think they sort of better their views not ordinary working class people's

Speaker 1:

aye yeah (pause) do you think ehm do you think the Labour party's really (pause) look after the interests of working class people (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well yes I think so

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I think they do more for us than eh than the Conservatives have done

Speaker 1:

yeah you you were fairly satisfied with the last government were you

Speaker 2:

yes yes I was

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I mean when they knew there was going to be a crisis they put your wage your money up the children's family allowance and things

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but ehm (pause) since they've got in the food's gone up and up and up and up every week

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah

Speaker 2:

I mean you can go to the shop and find that food's jumped up every week

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

and eh and the price of kiddies's clothes eeh it's terrible (pause) and I went out there with twenty pounds I had a provident order you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

for the kiddies course that's the only way I can do it

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and the clothes eeh the shoes is disgraceful three and four pounds for (interruption) kiddies' shoes it's terrible

Speaker 1:

mm mm (pause) aye

Speaker 2:

and eh all got was underwear socks and shoes and trousers for the little ones

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

out of twenty pound

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

aye the (interruption) price (unclear)

Speaker 2:

the price of clothes is terrible

Speaker 1:

yeah the price of everything it's it's (unclear) (interruption) (unclear) Durham (unclear) (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) that's right

Speaker 1:

quite recently (unclear)

Speaker 2:

and I mean if eh if you want sheets and towels and things like that you've sort of got to plan and scrimp and scrape to get those (interruption) sort of things now

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) mm

Speaker 2:

and eh (unclear) what you get from clothes they don't last there's nothing lasts very long

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I mean it's only three weeks since I bought shoes now I'm buying (interruption) shoes again yesterday

Speaker 1:

mm yeah aye yeah kids are pretty (interruption) eh (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) sometimes you're lucky if eh if you can find them in a sale you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

but eh (pause) they don't last very long

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) ehm do you usually eh when it comes round to election time do you usually vote in in every election you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no no not (interruption) every election no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

I just vote eh (pause) now say the next election I would go and vote Labour straight away you know

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes yeah if (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but eh

Speaker 1:

yeah what about the local government elections do you take much interest in them

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no just the main ones you know

Speaker 1:

yeah that's eh (pause) I suppose it's a bit of a foregone conclusion like (interruption) in these parts of Gateshead I think the council election but eh

Speaker 2:

yes I think so

Speaker 1:

what do you think of eh the way the council's run in Gateshead now you know like do you think they're making a reasonable job of it

Speaker 2:

well in a few years time I might be able to say that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

when there's something else (unclear) Gateshead because there's nothing in it now is there really

Speaker 1:

aye it's there's just a great big gap in the middle isn't there (interruption) there's just nothing (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (pause) well that was what we called Gateshead at one time (interruption) wasn't it

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) (interruption) aye

Speaker 2:

now it's all it's all more or less at Sheriff Hill and (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah do you d do you call this Gateshead by the way or is it

Speaker 2:

no (laughter)

Speaker 1:

no you'd say you're going (interruption) down to Gateshead like yes yeah

Speaker 2:

down the high street yeah uh-huh that's Gateshead to me like

Speaker 1:

aye I've I've noticed this (interruption) because

Speaker 2:

eh everyone does (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah I usually te you know I tend to think of the whole lot as Gateshead but (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (pause) and then I'll say I'm going down home (laughter)

Speaker 1:

right yes

Speaker 2:

(unclear) but eh (pause) this is not my home (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I go down home (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) yeah ehm (pause) if we could just eh go on to talk for bit about eh (pause) the thing we're most interested in like that's the way you talk and that you know and what you think about eh speech habits and this

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) firstly do you think that you ever eh that you've ever make any changes in your speech according to like the person you're talking to or any other kind of circumstances you know or do you think you always talk the same

Speaker 2:

I don't know (pause) sometimes (pause) I check the kids ehm (pause) some they speak very broad the children

Speaker 1:

aye yeah you (interruption) you check them (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (pause) we always have eh (pause) it doesn't make any difference if you check them

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I think it's with who (unclear) (interruption) (unclear) now

Speaker 1:

that's true (unclear)

Speaker 2:

it isn't it just goes in one ear and out the other

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) but eh (unclear) you don't do you find that ehm (pause) you know that you would talk differently to somebody say who had a very posh voice or something do you think do you think you would change your speech if you're talking to somebody like that or would you just talk (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

possibly if I'm out with them all day but eh you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

more or less

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) I think it has that effect with everybody

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

like ehm when I was young I worked with a girl that had a lisp

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and eh my mother used to check me for lisping

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

you know and more or less habit and and (unclear) habit forming I suppose

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) yes I think eh everybody copies habits

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

even to the little ones eh he would ehm in school (unclear) all the time and I find that I'm doing the same (interruption) type of thing (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes yeah mm (pause) ehm you know what do you think about eh about the way you're talking now do you think this is eh just the ordinary way that you would talk say to your family for instance or

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

just

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

this is a perfectly ordinary way to talk (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yeah all our family's eh more or less the same (interruption) you know sisters and brothers (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) aye (interruption) yeah mm

Speaker 2:

but ehm my husband's family they are very ehm (pause) what is it they say Tyneside

Speaker 1:

they're more Tyneside (interruption) than what you are (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes yeah

Speaker 1:

yeah mm do would you say that eh most of the people round here are more Tyneside than (interruption) than what you are

Speaker 2:

yes yeah

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah wonder why that

Speaker 2:

like eh my daughter when she comes in from work (unclear) she's saying eh 'that's my skort'

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) some others 'toon' instead of town

Speaker 1:

aye yeah yes

Speaker 2:

eh odd words like that you know

Speaker 1:

aye yeah do you think it's eh eh because of the way you were brought up I mean did your parents used to check you over the way you talked or your your (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes yes

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm if I said aye

Speaker 1:

aye yeah (interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

and things like that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah mm (pause) yeah ehm (pause) what eh do you usually like to hear people talking in in (interruption) local Tyneside accents

Speaker 2:

no I think it's horrible

Speaker 1:

no do you

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye eh what about

Speaker 2:

well if they only stopped (pause) I know ehm (pause) when you're on the telephone and things like that you'll say oh that sounds you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

but if those that talked real broad Tyneside (unclear) that's what I call them ehm if they only stopped and listened to their last sentence

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

they would realize how they talked and eh improve

Speaker 1:

(unclear) aye some people get a shock when they hear the tape recorder (interruption) (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

mm (laughter) everyone does (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm but eh you do think it's eh something that people should avoid like talking in eh you know very (interruption) very Geordie sort of accents (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) I think so (interruption) mm-hm yes

Speaker 1:

yeah mm what about ehm other other local accents of England you know like Liverpool or Cockney accents do you like hearing them (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I like ehm (pause) keeping to your ehm down south eh

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

not (pause) not actually Cockneys

Speaker 1:

yeah I know

Speaker 2:

ehm now (pause) can't think of the place now (pause) Somerset way they are very eh local (interruption) you know dialect I don't like that

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

but other parts of the country they're very nice talkers

Speaker 1:

mm yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

you know ehm you know the way the newsreaders talk on television

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

do you think of that as being a a southern sort of way to way way to talk (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes I I would (interruption) rather h have people talk that way

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I know ehm (pause) you always have the sound of a Geordie you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah

Speaker 2:

eh it doesn't matter how you try to improve on it but (interruption) there's always that sort of tone in your voice (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) mm mm (interruption) yes yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) you know that it's a Geordie

Speaker 1:

yes you've you've got to try really (interruption) hard I think if you want to avoid that (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) yes mm-hm (interruption) oh I think you would have to eh try ver you know lessons (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

just because it doesn't matter (pause) whether George Taylor you know he's a Geordie

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

for all he's on television you know

Speaker 1:

yeah you can t you can tell he's a Geordie even

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

even when he's putting it on

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

because of course he sometimes eh does these things larn yoursel Geordie bit on television but eh

Speaker 2:

oh yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

and and and Mike Neville (interruption) you can tell he's a Geordie

Speaker 2:

you can guess you can still tell

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah I think (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) this ehm m m might strike you as a rather vague sort of question but eh what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way they talk you know I mean do you ever guess things about people just from the way they pronounce (pause) you know their pronunciation the way they speak do you have any

Speaker 2:

well you can usually tell people where they come from (interruption) you know by the way they talk uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) Sussex people and eh

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

Yorkshire people you can always distinguish (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah what about eh (pause) you know if eh different people who come from Tyneside you know do you think you can is there anything anything more you can tell about you know I mean would you like to have a guess for instance at the the kind of job they might do for instance you know

Speaker 2:

eh no not really

Speaker 1:

no you wouldn't like to eh

Speaker 2:

well you I mean you know how intelligent a person is when you talk to them don't you

Speaker 1:

mm (unclear) yeah (interruption) yes (unclear)

Speaker 2:

and eh (pause) that's as much as (interruption) I can like guess their job (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

(interruption) yeah (interruption) yeah you wouldn't like to guess between ehm say (pause) ehm somebody who works in a factory and somebody who works in an office (unclear) do you think they tend to talk different

Speaker 2:

well I have two cousins ehm (pause) and they're both art architects and eh (pause) they look no different to anyone else eh that works eh

Speaker 1:

yeah (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know (unclear) factory (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yes (unclear) aye

Speaker 2:

you know and they just (pause) (unclear) eh there's two that works for ehm (pause) two of my husband's cousins works for Clark Chapmans they're they're very high up and draftsmen

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

there's no difference eh (interruption) when you see them outside in a pub (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

(interruption) yeah (interruption) aye and there's no difference in their (interruption) speech as well you don't think

Speaker 2:

no no

Speaker 1:

no (unclear)

Speaker 2:

and they travel all over

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

(unclear) for Clark Chapmans

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but eh (pause) now (pause) some some you can you know you can (interruption) (unclear) she works in a factory (unclear) (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) aye

Speaker 2:

and then others that work in an office and some shop assistants (pause) eh you can nearly always tell

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 2:

but ehm (pause) apart from that and miners I don't think anybody you can't look at (unclear) and say well he works there and he works there because when they're (unclear) they all look very nice

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) except if you see them in working clothes you know (interruption) then you would know wouldn't you (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah yeah (pause) yeah what ehm (pause) what what kind of accent would you say that I've got from listening you know from listening to me now

Speaker 2:

I would say that you come from Gateshead (laughter)

Speaker 1:

you'd be right (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) (unclear) (pause) oh yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm would you say that ehm would you say it was more or less like yours

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm yeah (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

it has that tone (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye I I suppose that's true (unclear) (pause) but different from eh well as you were saying before most of the people in in this street say

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

eh (unclear) is I I think most of them they come down ehm down the high street end you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (unclear)

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) sort of eh Chandler Street area (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

if they've lived down there all their life they they have that sort of ehm (pause) real Geordie (interruption) language

Speaker 1:

aye yes that's true yes yeah like people from the Teams (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) do you think you could eh just read that list of words for us please (unclear) straight down fairly quickly

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

ta thanks ehm now eh I'm going to read out this list of words that are all sort of ehm

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