(unclear)

right okay

T L S G five nine

right thanks very much eh (pause) well could you tell us first of all where you were born please you were born in Gateshead

yes

whereabouts

I was I was born in eh a place called eh Barney Close (interruption) Barns Close you know

oh aye yes yes where the flats are

where the flats are built there now and eh my mother of course she was eh a Hardy you know she was from a a great family of eh pipe ehm makers you know

oh yes

the clay pipes

for like in pipe working for instance

yes her father eh was eh the boss

aye

and her brother had a pipe shop you know

yeah yeah

it's a well named eh make Hardy you know well known and she was the last of twelve of course she's dead now and eh well that's the Hardys that's my mother you see

yes yes

but eh I left there when I was seven year old Barns Close

I see yes where did you go from there

then I went down to the Old Fold

oh aye yes was that onto the estate like (unclear)

on the bypass do you know

aye yes

on the Felling bypass uh-huh

it was into a council house was it

oh yes uh-huh

and then eh

and then of course I was married eh I was in with my mother eight year you know (interruption) and then I got this was my first home (pause) you know

uh-huh oh I see yes you came here (interruption) and this was your first

yes uh-huh so

mm what eh what did you think about those various places you know as places to live in which did you like living in best

uh-huh well eh (pause) well you know I liked the Old Fold

yeah

you know because I mean my mother and my sisters was all there course you know when your mother goes (interruption) your family's kind of broke up

aye yes separates yes

uh-huh yes but eh my mind goes back you know to what my mother the things she used to tell us you know because she had a hard life

yes

used to take washing in you know

aye

and the place was never tidy she was nice and clean you know she had one of these big old fashioned fireplaces blacklead

aye

and the big fender you could see your face in it you know

yes

the big roaring fire and the kettle on the hob you know

yes aye sounds good that

and eh course you don't see that now everything's so modern

that's right yeah (interruption) yeah changed a lot

you know easy and when I think what my mother used to do and I'm done in five minutes you know

(laughter) yeah

it takes her all the week you could be on three hours on her fireplace alone

aye

and then you had to shake the mat you know (laughter)

aye

but now it's all hoovering

that's right

uh-huh them are all modernized now but eh I I I wish that my mother had been here today she was the one you know

aye

she could tell you things all about Gateshead years and years ago uh-huh

aye yes I see yes what do you think about uh this area to live in you know is it is it fairly nice up here

well the only yes it's all right you know but the only thing I have against is the the kiddies

aye

you know they will play football on the grass verge you see now they've started to put these trees in and I keep looking for a mind it's coming on now but it is flat you can see it's bent over

aye

and ehm that's the only thing I've got against the bairns playing football of course we've had one or two windows eh not broke but the ball has hit the window you know

aye

and I want these big windows put in but my husband said well is it worth it you know

aye they probably would just get broke

he says now you want big windows in he says now he says a little window's all right a pane you could get it (pause) repaired now a big one (pause)

yes aye

uh-huh but eh apart from that it's eh all right mm-hm

yes do you know would you say that you know most of the people sort of round about here (interruption) a fairly friendly sort of place

oh I know everybody

aye

yes you see I was the first one in this street

were you

yes uh-huh

was that when these were built

yes these houses were well you know we all kind of came in within a fortnight of each other all around (interruption) here you see

yes

but over there the houses weren't finished

aye yes

so therefore I was ehm there was no path made

mm-hm yes when when was that when were these built

eh well you see it'll be about eh nineteen fifty

mm-hm

my eh youngest son he was eh five in the October that was nineteen fifty

mm-hm

I remember that because he

aye

he was five in the November we shifted in October and he had to wait till January before he started the new school because Fell Dyke school had hadn't opened you know

uh-huh yes

and he had to wait then and eh course my son one was five and the other one was eh eight

yes

and now my oldest son's twenty four and the other one'll be twenty one this year so that's eh

where do they live do they still live in Gateshead

oh yes they're still at home uh-huh

oh they're still at home

yes but the older son's getting married a month's time

oh I see

so eh and I've still got the younger one

yeah yeah (interruption) eh

but eh but he's car mad the young one so

yes

but he says he'll not leave he'll not leave me (laughter) they all say that don't they

(laughter) aye

but ehm

would you say that eh would you say you were fairly attached to Gateshead itself as a place to live you know what I mean

oh

you you wouldn't go to live in Newcastle for instance

well no now there's my husband he's a Londoner now he want he wants me he could go there tomorrow down the south

aye

but no my heart's here

but you won't move

yes you see my sisters live in Gateshead you see I have one lives in Springwell

aye

and the other one in in Park Road where I first eh when I first down down Old Fold and eh (pause) I've got another older sister lives in Chester Moor you know County Durham

aye

and the other one lives in the Midlands but ehm course we'll see her during the wedding you see

that's right yes

but eh no I

you've got plenty connections here in fact yes

uh-huh I don't think I could settle anywhere else

yes

no because I know I do know everybody you know

yes

if I you know if I go down the street you can not I can't pass a soul for I know them

yes

uh-huh and I find the majority of the people round here are the same you know

yes grand grand

uh-huh I think it's nice when they're like that we don't go in each other's house you know

no

I've got a the eh a good neighbour next door now if it when it's like this and we're at the back anytime hanging clothes out and we have a little bit eh chin wag but apart from that eh (unclear) in the winter we hardly see anybody at all in the winter

aye

but in the summer you really eh (interruption) uh-huh uh-huh

yes you can go outside and talk like that aye

uh-huh well as they say the (pause) sun brings all the flowers out so (laughter) uh-huh

that's right aye yes

but eh

eh whereabouts were your parents born were they born in Gateshead as well

oh yes eh Oakwell Gate uh-huh

mm-hm both both your parents were born

yes

and they lived in Gateshead all their lives

all all their lives uh-huh yes

and eh what was eh your father's occupation

well he was out of work for many many years

aye

because he had a stomach trouble

oh

I remember my mother used to say she nursed him forty four year with eh stomach trouble but he was a boiler maker you know by trade

aye by trade like uh-huh

uh-huh yes and of course my mother worked you know when she was at school her father used to keep her off you know

aye

eh course she used to get wrong but eh to do this eh little job for pipe eh pipe making

aye

for two pence ha'penny you know

yes

uh-huh she used to do a man's work she used to tell us uh-huh

aye eh could you tell us please which age group you come into on that card if you could just say the letter

D

ta and eh well the on what basis you occupy this house it's presumably C is it

yes uh-huh C uh-huh

yes ta

mm-hm I've got the wrong glasses on you know these are my eh I've got eh reading glasses

eh do you work yourself at the (interruption) moment do you do any

no

no no (interruption) just just your housework aye

no never worked since I was married mm-hm

yes do you think it's eh do you think it's the best idea for a you know for a married woman not to work

well I think if it's necessary you know if it's eh compulsory you know but as I say I've got a husband and two sons and I'm all right I'm not eh

there's no need for you to work

no no

eh could you tell us what uh what jobs you have done in your life you know what did you do when you first left school

well my first job was in the paper mills at Pemberton's you know I was fourteen

oh aye whereabouts was that

that's at Mirk Lane

ah yes

the bottom of eh old Gateshead you know

aye is it still there

oh yes uh-huh yes oh it's eh it's one of the oldest eh factories in Gateshead that mm-hm

yes

it's at the corner of the high level bridge down the you can see all the bridges from where I used to work you could see the high level bridge the swing bridge and you know

yes

because we were working in front of these old these big windows and uh-huh mm-hm the paper bag place (unclear) course they make paper there

they make the paper themselves do they

oh yes they start from making paper and you know

uh-huh what do they start from wood and that

well it's like pulp you know it's eh (pause) well it's all paper you know there's no waste

yes

if there's eh any eh mistakes in paper bags it's all pushed back

just all go back

yes it's all put in this big pulp and it's made into reels and they make carrier bags and paper ba oh it's interesting really mm-hm

yes I used to work in a cardboard box factory and we used to do something similar

oh yes well there's still a place you know eh Kelly's that used to be a cardboard eh in fact it still there

yes

Kelly's uh-huh but that was my first job

yes mm

at Pembertons and then eh when I was nineteen I g I started when I was fourteen when I was nineteen eh during the war I joined the NAAFI you know

oh aye uh-huh yes

but I was no further than Gosforth Park

aye (laughter) yes

you see and of course that's where I met my husband

I see yes aye

uh-huh

mm-hm (pause) and then (interruption) did he

and then and I just I came out he went overseas of course you know

yes yes

I was engaged about three year

aye

and then eh I came out the NAAFI I was only about a couple of year I think course you can do that it wasn't like the the forces you know

no

but ehm I came out and I went straight back to Pemberton's

yeah yes

you see and then I was there when I got married

aye and then your husband came up here in fact when you were (interruption) (unclear)

that's right and we've lived here ever since

yes

uh-huh

what does he do your husband what's your husband's job

well eh he's working on the British railways just now

yes

uh-huh well he's been there fifteen year mm-hm mm-hm

mm-hm

yes

eh (pause) how old how old were you when you left school

fourteen

fourteen

mm-hm

do you think eh do you think you were glad to leave school

well ehm (pause) well of course at at them times it was you had to leave school at fourteen

yes

I mean it's all changed now they leave when they're sixteen don't they

aye

or uh-huh but eh as I say my father never worked so it was just a little bit extra isn't it

so you had to eh

uh-huh uh-huh of course I never got any pocket money you know I had to just give it to my mother

aye

you see things were hard they say good old days but at the same time they were hard days you know uh-huh yes (unclear)

did you en did you enjoy school when you were there

oh yes uh-huh yes I liked school uh-huh I wasn't a great scholar you know

no but you liked it

yes uh-huh I was never late that was one thing I can say uh-huh I was al and we used to walk to school we never got the bus

mm-hm yes

I just I used to go to Sunderland Road school you know

yes

but ehm

eh would you say you know looking back on your education would you say that it had been very important to you in your life you know since you left school

oh yes

yes you think so

yes mm-hm mm-hm

in what way just for your own you know for you own knowledge and that

oh yes uh-huh I mean ehm well I I had done the best I could at school that's eh uh-huh

yeah yeah

uh-huh

eh and do you think about you know children these days do you think you would advise children nowadays to stay on at school if you know

yes (interruption) I think I would

after fifteen if they're (interruption)

yes I think I would (interruption) mm-hm uh-huh well eh as jobs are hard to get now

if they could aye

you know

yes

I know my sister's girl she's eh well she's leaving school like this time but eh I mean she's sixteen (pause) see

yes

but she didn't want to leave school (interruption) you see

no

but now I think she's eh she's done her year you know say I'll keep on till I'm sixteen

aye

uh-huh

mm mm mm do you think eh do you think schools have changed very much since you went you know

well I know one thing ehm we daresn't talk at school you know

aye

but now when I see the way the school children now talk to their teachers you know

aye oh yeah

uh uh but eh I used to love my teachers uh-huh yes

do you think the do you think the (pause) children were better behaved when you went to school than they are now

oh definitely oh yes

mm

mm-hm

mm

yes I'm sure

eh

I don't think we da we dare say half what the children say now

yes

uh-huh I mean you've just got to listen to them you know I mean there's a school here it's a Catholic school of course but I go to the corner shop and eh y y you get your eyes opened

mm-hm

uh-huh

yes (pause) eh (pause) ehm whereabouts whereabouts were you living when you were you know when you were young yourself and you were sort of under twelve were you living in ah you were living in the Old Fold (interruption) weren't you

oh yes I yes uh-huh yes

do you think eh was that eh a good place to live you know from your point of view as a child then would you say you enjoyed your childhood there

oh yes I did uh-huh I really did because eh you know the Tyne eh (pause) you know the Tyne banks used to run along by the (interruption) shore

oh aye uh-huh

and I I was just telling my son just the other day I says you could walk nearly to South Shields you know right along them banks all the way

oh yes

and we used to walk for miles and miles

did you

I used to love it and we used to sit on the riverbank and watch the ships

mm-hm

go over the Tyne you know (interruption) uh-huh mm-hm

aye can you remember ehm you know any of the games you used to play or things did you play any good street games ever

oh (pause) it the bairns now they don't know the games what we used to play

yes

nothing you know eh there were only you know broken eh ehm china you know and if you had a a piece of boody we used to call them boodys you know ehm if we had a piece of boody with a piece of gold on

aye

we thought that that was great you know

yes

uh-huh and eh we used to play eh davvers you know

oh aye

with the put the numbers on the

oh aye the bays

uh-huh and eh what was that other game we used to play eh we used to jump on their backs you know

oh aye

I've forgetten at (interruption) the time but eh

mult multikitty

mult that's it uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh but now you don't see anything like that mm-hm

yes

and we used to have ehm I remember when I lived in eh Barns Close eh I went to eh Saint Mary's school as well you know

yes

uh-huh course all that's closed down now and eh

I didn't even know there was a Saint Mary's school

oh yes uh-huh that's in ehm (pause) I don't uh (pause) in fact the soldiers took it over during the war

aye

it's what you called a national school and I think the Redifusion I think took it over as well you know

aye

oh that was a big school that but eh you see when I first started school I went to eh Saint Mary's little infants school you know

mm

well that's in eh Mulgrave Terrace where the baths is

uh-huh yes

that's where I first started school

aye

when I was five you see and then I went to Saint Mary's school that was the bigger school from the infants to the of course they took all ages then and when they left that school they used to send you to Windmill Hill school

mm-hm

you know

yes yes (unclear)

so eh but eh (pause) I this big street I tell you it used to be Carrick Street

aye

it's all down now it's all d you know the flats are there now

yes yes

and eh we used to have eh great big ropes skippy ropes you know

aye

and they all used to used about nine or twelve used to skip

twelve at a time yeah

uh-huh I mean there was no traffic nothing like that you know then mm-hm

no aye

uh-huh but now the traffic eh wey you've just got to have your eyes open now haven't you

uh-huh (unclear)

uh-huh uh-huh mm-hm even these estates you know you'd be surprised the cars that comes around

uh-huh yes

uh-huh I mean eh (pause) the roads are are there's too much grass verge you know uh-huh

narrow aren't they very narrow

yes too narrow uh-huh uh-huh yes

eh can you remember ehm what you used to call a game where one of the kids had to chase the others to try to touch them what did you call that

eh

and then if he touched a one

and then you had to

then he had to chase the rest of them

oh (pause) I do I do (interruption) remember it

did you used

uh-huh

I used to call it (interruption) tuggy

wasn't that tuggy

aye yes

yes tuggy uh-huh yes

and eh what did you used to say about the one who had to chase the others what what did you

eh I used to say eh you're on things like that yes

you'd say he's on

uh-huh you're on or it's your turn or something like that uh-huh

and eh what did you used to say when you wanted to call a halt in a game you know if you wanted to eh stop and tie your shoelace or something and you wanted to stop the game did you used to cross your fingers and say anything

ehm (pause) oh (pause) I can not think at the minute like but eh

something like skinchers or

skinchers that's it aye (laughter) skinchers (laughter) yes you forget you know but you remember as you keep on talking uh-huh because it's years since eh (pause) it's all (interruption) come back you know

you had to say skinchers yes

skinchers uh-huh

what did you used to call eh the things that boys flick along the ground

marbles

aye did you have any other word for them

ehm oh dear me eh (pause) oh (pause) d I do know it's on the e tongue my tongue end ehm (pause) oh

allies

was that the name allies

I don't know or liggies

d eh liggies that's it liggies

what I used to call them anyway

oh yes I used to do that you know

did you

now my mother she used to she thought she was a champion she used to tell me (interruption) oh she thought she was a champion uh-huh aye

(laughter) aye liggies eh champion

uh-huh my mother says she always played with the boys

aye

aye mm-hm

I was never very good at it me you know

oh yes I remember that

mm-hm

I've seen one or two of the bairns playing that mind

uh-huh that's right yes

the marbles uh-huh you used to have three holes you know

yes yes complicated sort of rules it used to have

yes uh-huh put three holes in the ground

you get into one of the holes before you could shoot for each aye

yes uh-huh and then (unclear) to the middle one and then to the end one uh-huh (laughter)

that's right aye eh (pause) still sort of on the lines of what words you use for things ehm could you tell us please just what you call each of the rooms in this house you know what your normal word is for each room

well well I will say kitchen for this (interruption) living room

this is the kitchen yes

I always say that the kitchen

aye

and then eh for the kitchenette

uh-huh

I say scullery

uh-huh

you see

aye

uh-huh uh-huh

and eh what about what you're in as soon as you come through the front door

the passage

aye uh-huh

but now it's a hall isn't it (interruption) they say the hall now uh-huh

that's right yes some people call it a hall aye

aye

and ehm you know to get out of like an old fashioned back door you have to lift the

the latch

what do you call that

the latch

yes eh and what do you call eh you know if you've got a coal fire what do you call the thing you stand in front of it to get it going

the bleezer (laughter)

aye and eh what do you call cleaning the plates and things after a meal

well I just say tidy up

I mean actually putting them into the sink and

just put them in the sink and get the (interruption) washes up

wash wash up yeah

uh-huh I just say washing up (laughter)

(unclear) yes eh (pause) eh (pause) could you tell us please just eh how you like to spend your spare time you know what sort of things you like to do in the evenings and that

well I just like to sit and watch the television because that's what my husband likes

aye

mm-hm and I like a game of cards you know

oh yes

not for money you know

aye

but I'm good at playing cards

what kind of games like whist and that

oh no I you know I've never been one but I'm sure if anybody learned me I would eh I would win them

uh-huh

because eh I mean I just pick games up as eh like rummy

uh-huh

I don't know whether you

aye I know I used to play that

uh-huh I'm good at that and seven card brag

aye

yes uh-huh and I play patience if I'm sitting on my own

oh I see aye uh-huh

you see and mind I nearly always get it out no cheating (laughter) no cheating uh uh and I like to fill the cross word puzzles in

oh yes

just for relaxing

which ones do you do the Chronicle crossword

I do the Daily Mirror

aye

well I do the easy one you know (laughter)

aye (laughter)

and then sometimes when I look on the other side eh oh I thought well I think I should have done that one you know

uh-huh

because I never finish the crossword puzzle that's me I never finish it uh-huh uh-huh

do you eh do you you watch television pretty often like do you

oh yes uh-huh

every night

every night uh-huh

and is it is it usually on all the time you know I mean sort of from six o'clock to (interruption) eleven

oh definitely uh-huh now with the tennis is on

oh yes

now I love tennis

right so do I yes

it's interesting ehm (pause) for Wimbledon you know

mm yes

I love to see them uh-huh

aye aye yes I like tennis yes

yes uh-huh interesting (pause) course once you get to know the game that's how you like it you know uh-huh I mean I didn't know anything about tennis but you've got to sit and then you you learn

uh-huh

the same as cricket you know

aye

it's eh I know it's a woman's world you know eh these eh (pause) the men's sports you'd be surprised how many housewives like eh these things (interruption) cricket tennis I say to my neighbour I'll say well so and so got through you know (interruption) uh-huh

aye uh-huh yes yeah uh-huh yes there's been some good matches on (interruption) hasn't there

oh great mm-hm yes I was sorry about eh Taylor getting beat you know (interruption) uh-huh uh-huh

aye yes took him to five sets like it was a exciting match

yes I like to see our own eh I don't know about you but I do uh-huh because it seems to be the same ones you know

oh yes

like Laver and Margaret Court you know they're always there at the finish aren't they

oh aye yes aye

you see uh-huh you like to see a change uh-huh

aye

but you see they must be great that's it course Laver is great

oh he certainly is

uh-huh yeah

eh (pause) these are just uh just a few questions about your opinions on some eh some things eh what do you think that parents should do when their children misbehave you know how should they treat them

well you see I've you see I've had no bother with my two sons that's the trouble you see and they've never once had ehm a smack (interruption) you know

yeah they've never needed to really

uh-huh you see it's how your own how you've brought your own family up I think

yes

and I've never eh (pause) I know the bairns these days there there is some little villains you know

yes

they don't take no for an answer you see

aye

but eh as I say we've never once eh lifted wor hands to my two sons (unclear)

(unclear) they were always well behaved

yes mm-hm uh-huh (pause) I mean that's the way I was brought up you know

yes you weren't brought up sort of very strictly

oh my mother was eh she was strict understand but we were never ones for asking for this and that but now the bairns they get what they want their mothers are just glad to give them it you know

yes

just for peace but that's not it (interruption) you see

mm

but ehm (pause) we daresn't ask our mother for a ha'penny because we knew we couldn't get it you see as I say times was hard but eh (pause) my sons have never wanted for anything you know I mean I've always kept them eh they've always getten something you know I mean they're not eh (pause) they've had as much as the next eh bairn you know but eh no I've had no bother a at least my neighbour can eh say that uh-huh

aye

they've never even once stepped in that woman's back garden

yes

uh-huh but eh (pause) as I say now the bairns'll just jump in your gardens and (pause) uh-huh

eh (pause) going on to something different and this is a a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't eh which way do you vote

well I always vote Labour

aye

now I don't know why you know but my mother and father always voted Labour

aye

and eh I've often heard my mother say it's a working man's vote you see

yes

and we're only ehm (pause) ordinary people and working class people and I think that's only

aye and you think it's proper to vote for that party yes

yes uh-huh now I've got a sister she's the other side you know

aye

mm-hm at least her husband's independent course he was a councillor you see and he got in (laughter) but that's down the Midlands

mm yes

uh-huh yes do you see that's eh I don't know why but that's just I always vote Labour uh-huh I don't understand the politics you know uh-huh

yes do you always eh do you always vote you know in every election like (interruption) do you vote government elections

every time every time mm-hm

yes

yes ever since I was able to vote mm-hm

yes eh (pause) well now if we could just eh go on to talk for a bit about what we are most interested in like that's the way you talk and that you know what you think about it

yes

eh firstly do you think that you ever change the way you speak according to you know the person you're talking to or the company you're in

mm-hm ehm yes sometimes uh-huh

in what sort of in what sort of situations

well I mean I'm not eh swanky (laughter) you know

aye

but if I think I can talk eh you know better y I'm a Geordie you understand

aye uh-huh

uh-huh but I'm I always let the odd word slip out you know

aye

I can't help it

yes

uh-huh

you mean you sometimes try to talk better (unclear)

uh-huh (unclear) not so you know uh-huh now there's my husband as I tell you he's a Londoner now if he stands talking to anybody at the door all you can hear him say is aye oh well you know it sounds terrible from a southerner you know

uh-huh (laughter)

but a Geordie it doesn't matter you see

aye

but he will say that word that's the only word aye but apart from that he's eh (pause) he's still a Londoner mm-hm mm-hm and he's been here twenty five year and he's still eh (pause) if anybody comes in they'll say oh what part of the south do you come from uh-huh yes

eh how would you say you were talking now are you talking pretty normally now like

just normal yes

this is the way you would talk to you know your neighbours and that

uh-huh mm-hm

ehm (pause) do you eh do you like to hear people talking in Tyneside accents you know do you like local accents

well eh do you know it's I think it sounds terrible

do you

mm-hm now I on the wireless I hadn't this is a new wire eh (pause) television I've been getting's got no eh sound you know no eh radio

yes

but th my last one you could get the Radio Newcastle

mm

now it used to take us from shops to shops and when I heard some of the women oh dear me I thought dear God you know

(laughter) uh-huh

you know it sounds te you know y I mean you can talk eh proper in a way but oh dear me if if you had heard some of them I'm sure they would if they had heard their self I'm sure

aye

they'd say never that's never me you know

yes I think everybody says (interruption) that though

now my son had a tape recorder the first tape recorder he had well I know I'm not much of a singer (laughter)

(laughter)

but one day I thought oh I'll have a try and I was singing now we had a budgie used to stand in that eh (pause) oh and the budgie was on at it all the time you know but eh (pause) and then he caught him one day talking but eh it didn't sound eh

it didn't sound like (interruption) him did it

no no

but eh you know do you think the way you talk is sort of all right you know I mean

not really

mm you even disapprove of that a bit do you

uh-huh uh-huh now you know when I'm down the south I thought to myself if could only meet a Geordie you know

oh aye yes

that's you see

aye

uh-huh that's the eh the way but you see that's why I don't like to I wouldn't go down there

aye

you see I'm sure I'll get a sore throat down there without uh-huh with not speaking uh-huh

yes

oh yes I I think if you're in your own eh (pause) mm-hm (unclear) I don't talk very much down there at all you know I mean I now his sister understands you know

do you usually yes

but there's a lot of Londoners don't they don't understand uh-huh

that's very interesting do you usually feel that ehm you you get on better with the people who talk like you you know if somebody talks like you do you think you'll get on better

oh I think so yes uh-huh mm-hm

mm (unclear)

but I mind I've heard some nice people talk you know uh-huh

mm

I mean it's no I mean eh it's no good talking any other is it

oh no

you know but I I mean I not ehm (pause) at least I hope I'm understa (pause) you know eh people can understand what I'm talking about

oh yes

but eh now I've got a a cousin's eh eh son my cousin's son and he's a folk singer you know

oh yes

I don't know whether you've heard of him Bob Davenport

oh yes yes I have (interruption) yes

do you

yes

well he's my cousin's son

oh I see I never knew that

uh-huh you see now he's a Geordie singer

oh aye he is

uh-huh now we always wanted my mother to sing some Geordie songs you know

aye

because eh she was a nice singer and she knew all these butter cushyfield and all these eh kind of songs now eh my eh now which way'll I say it my uncle's father's brother that's the way I can say it

(laughter)

was Geordie Ridley you know

oh yes gan and see Geordie Ridley's show uh-huh

uh-huh yes

in the Mechanics Hall in Blaydon

mm-hm uh-huh in fact I've got a photo I I I don't just suppose I can put my hands on it just now but eh my uncle was taken with the cup you know with the Newcastle

aye

course he died my uncle but eh that's the

so you're a a very Geordie family

uh-huh yes uh-huh uh-huh

you know ehm you know the way the newsreaders speak on television

yes

when they're reading the news out do you think ehm do you think that's a nice way to speak you know do you approve of that sort of (pause) voice

well now I'll tell you who I do like and it's Michael Neville Mike Neville

oh aye uh-huh

now I really do and George House they're my kind of they're my kind of newscasters you know

uh-huh yeah

uh-huh because they're they can talk nice

aye

and they can talk Geordie

yeah what about you know do you know eh Robert Dougal

oh yes

he's a aye do you think do you think he's very different from Mike Neville

oh much mm-hm mm-hm

yes what do you think more posh

yes definitely uh-huh

but you prefer Mike Neville

oh more homely

aye

uh-huh oh he's my kinda (pause) man him

(laughter)

in fact he makes me laugh you know

aye (laughter)

I always turn over Mike Neville

aye mm-hm

uh-huh uh-huh he in fact he doesn't have to he doesn't have to say anything that lad

aye

for me (laughter) uh-huh yeah

aye do you know anybody yourself who talks you know like the newsreaders do do you

well as I say my husband's a nice talker you know uh-huh

yes do you think he yes

but not ehm well he does he's I mean he's not a he's not a Cockney you know

aye yes he's aye

you see he's a Londoner uh-huh I mean he can go anywhere you know

yes does he sound the same as Robert Dougal

oh no no I wouldn't say that

no not quite the same as that no

but eh but as I say he's been up here twenty five year but he will say that word aye you see (laughter)

eh (pause) what eh what would you say about my accent from listening to it now you know what sort of accent do you think I've got

well eh (laughter) I know you're you're from the north

aye you would be able to tell that even if I hadn't told you

yes but eh you're eh (pause) a decent talker you know what I mean

aye

uh-huh

do you think I talk like you or

well I can ta I can talk to you I know that

aye

I mean I under (pause) uh-huh

yes (pause) eh

we'll say you're one of the posh talkers we'll say that eh

oh (unclear) (laughter)

you know what I mean

do you think so I mean

you're yes I'm uh-huh

but but recognisably Tyneside

oh yes definitely mm-hm yes

eh (pause) well ehm now I'm just going to read out this list of words and they're all sort of fairly local words you know I would just like to know for each one eh firstly if you're familiar with it and secondly if you use it right

uh-huh

eh aside for beside

aside

uh-huh do you say it's just aside the fire

just aside uh-huh

bairn little bairn

yes bairn I always say bairn (laughter)

bait

bait uh-huh

eh bonny

bonny

aye eh bray

bray

uh-huh

yes a smack you mean (laughter)

do y do you use it

yes

eh bullets

bullets well ehm I wouldn't say I use it now

no but you would when you were little

but then but I know (unclear) little yes sweets

clamming

hunger (laughter)

do you use that now do you say I'm clamming

sometimes yes uh-huh

coin

coin coin a corner I heard that the other day on the bus and I hadn't heard it for ages

oh aye yes

it was said by a kiddie you know (unclear) on the bus oh uh-huh coin a corner well oh it's funny isn't it

cree

cree

aye

pigeons pigeon cree aye

fettle

fettle uh-huh

gully

gully knife (laughter)

do you do you use that

no I don't but I know what uh-huh yes

howk

yes hoyk aye I know

to mean like to give somebody a good howking

ho hoyking uh-huh

hoyking

like a like a smack you know isn't it uh-huh

lowe

eh a lowe

uh-huh give us a lowe for a light or a flame you know

oh I've never heard no never heard that one

it is pretty rare like

is it uh-huh uh-huh

(unclear) mense be more to your mense to get some work done

aye uh-huh

do you use that

no I don't use it like

parky

yes

about your (interruption) food

because my son is parky yes

varnigh

varnigh oh I use that (laughter) varnigh yeah I use that

what about ehm knooled to be knooled

no I don't think so no

it means to be henpecked or kept down

oh no I don't use that no no I haven't got a henpecked husband (laughter) so maybe that's how I don't use it (laughter)

eh now eh more or less on the same lines I'm going to read out eh a list of sentences and for each one I would like to know eh whether it sounds okay to you you know whether it sounds like something you might say if the circumstances arose you know what I mean

yes

ehm eh (pause) were you wakened last night when I came in

aye uh-huh

I was still abed when you called this morning

uh-huh

he never gave us any

something like that uh-huh

do you not go there very often do you think you would say that

oh (pause) well (pause) no

you don't think so no ehm (pause) they're useless them

aye (laughter)

me and John went to the races on Saturday

no I no

eh

at least but I divn't go do you know uh-huh uh-huh

I might could manage it

aye (laughter)

he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

uh-huh

it's ower big to get through there

uh-huh

you think you would you say that

I don't think so

no you would say it's too big you know my cousin that her husband died

yes

yeah ehm (pause) ehm (pause) eh (pause) with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

uh-huh

I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

well I

with the son

mind I say aye well it all depends doesn't it really of eh (pause) I haven't got to that stage yet you know you see I mean the he's just he's not married yet I don't know I think the

they go to the pictures of a Sunday

well I don't like but eh

would you say of a Sunday

oh I don't think so

on a Sunday would you say

oh you mean the the way I speak

yes

oh yes on a Sunday

you say on a Sunday

on a Sunday

here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

aye (laughter)

I think I think we're going to be soon for the pictures

uh-huh

would you mind stop talking

well I have said that before (laughter)

eh (pause) do you want a cup of tea making

often I say that (laughter)

you know him that used to work on the railways

oh I do know him (laughter)

he happened a nasty accident

aye I've heard that aye I've said that before uh-huh

I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

uh-huh

I wanted for to talk to you about it

aye

when did it happen you

ah yes

I've got money belonging him

well I would say that

could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

yes I have said that (laughter)

I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

uh-huh

it's all right for you you're used with it do you say used with it

yes (laughter)

we've been waiting of a bus

ee ah I say that every day

I think they're going to give him the job permanent

mm-hm

yes I don't bother much about the television and that

oh well I I mean I bother like but that's what I would say aye yes that's the way uh-huh (unclear)

there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

mm-hm

yes many people were there there

yes

where did you get it at

yes

never mind I'll manage but

yes (laughter)

no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in no the wonder

no wonder yes I say that

you say no wonder

no wonder I say

eh (pause) me and George is going to the town today

yes

Jack didn't think much to the race

of the race

you wouldn't say that

no

all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

yes uh-huh

they'd not seen it

no no I don't say that

you'd say they hadn't seen it

aye I've heard that eh talk that what you said

they'd not seen it

uh-huh they usually say that at ehm through Durham you know that's the way they talk uh-huh yes

that's interesting yes but you would normally say they hadn't seen it

I wouldn't say uh-huh I call that eh pit eh pit people

aye yes

they talk like that like eh (unclear) because I I've got a sister they talk like that you know they

I see yes

but I wouldn't ehm

it's far too long this

uh-huh yes

how's your wife and family then

uh-huh

Joe can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

yes

what is it he does for a living

yes

he wants his wages paid immediately

uh-huh

just light the fire on will you

yes

I'll clout yous both in a minute

uh-huh (laughter)

how much have they offered we

for petrol

aye

uh-huh

pass us one of them spanners

yes

I've broke a plate

uh-huh

I come this morning but you weren't in

yes

he done it all right

yes

I had forgetten to buy the onions

uh-huh often (laughter)

he give us a pound for doing it

yes

we had went to the coast for the day

yes

I seen Albert on Tuesday

yes

I'm not going to stand being tret like that

uh-huh

that's what happens when you be naughty

uh-huh

I'll probably see him a Saturday

yes

I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

yes

you've letten him get away

uh-huh

my mother's keep coming in to see us

yes

we'll sharp get this done

mm-hm

he's as Tyneside as what I am

yes

you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

yes (laughter) (unclear)