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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG21

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG21

Age Group:

21-30

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 16; subsequent college (day release)

Occupation:

Clerical Worker (Employment Exchange)

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  Interview Transcript

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I think they're friendlier you know they tend to talk on the buses and things like that more than you find in other places

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah most people think (unclear) (pause) eh whereabouts were your parents born as well

Speaker 2:

eh my mother was born New York near Tynemouth (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and eh my father was born in Carr Hill in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

yes yeah and eh and what's your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

ehm he was a (unclear) he's had an accident and he's not working at the moment

Speaker 1:

I see yes ehm (pause) could you tell us which age group you come into on that card please

Speaker 2:

eh B

Speaker 1:

ta and eh on what basis you occupy this house again if you could just say the letter

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) well (interruption) my mother and father own it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

A yes (laughter) ta (pause) eh (pause) ehm whereabouts do you work

Speaker 2:

eh the employment exchange Felling the dole you know

Speaker 1:

as (interruption) as what

Speaker 2:

(unclear) on Holly Hill clerical officer interviewer

Speaker 1:

yeah you actually eh (interruption) receive the the punters (unclear) yes

Speaker 2:

interview the public yeah (laughter) try and find them jobs (interruption) sign them on for their (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes my cousin works in eh Walker at at the same job yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

oh

Speaker 1:

do you eh what do you think of it as a job do you enjoy it

Speaker 2:

well I've been there six years you know first at Birtley and then at Felling and I've enjoyed it you know I enjoy working there because ehm every day's not the same you know well even every five minutes isn't the same you know it's a different (unclear) different person each time

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

they've all got different problems you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you get bored with it like you do with everything else but I I find it yeah quite nice

Speaker 1:

yeah do you do you never find people hard to handle or anything like that

Speaker 2:

well you get your awkward customers as you do with everything you know

Speaker 1:

eh but (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but ehm (pause) I feel if you treat people with respect you know you get the same back

Speaker 1:

yes yes

Speaker 2:

I haven't had any bother personally but I've I've watched other people have bother you know (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you can imagine the type we get good cross section of the public

Speaker 1:

oh yeah yes or even a rather special sort of cross section (laughter) you know when you think about it yeah

Speaker 2:

(laughter) well you know we get commercial I deal with commercials and women mainly but ehm of course we also get the labourers ex convicts and things like this

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but ehm they're all people (unclear)

Speaker 1:

what ehm what sort what sort of attitude do you take to the you know to the people you deal with do you think that eh do you think very many of them are idle or

Speaker 2:

well (pause) I would say a minority anyway

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

everyone's got basic you know are lazy basically I think but ehm

Speaker 1:

that's true yes aye

Speaker 2:

you get the type that are just bone idle you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and they'll never work no matter what we do they'll never work but you get the other ones who I feel want work you know

Speaker 1:

yes and you reckon they in fact are the the majority you know you're not you're not disillusioned with the human race anyway

Speaker 2:

well I don't know I think it's the there's not enough opportunities for them you know if you could get people a decent job well it probably works

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but a benefits are at the moment they're getting more unemployed and personally I can't blame them you know

Speaker 1:

yes (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) sort of (pause) some of them are getting (pause) between fifteen and twenty pound

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

now I offer them a job for twelve or thirteen and I can't see them taking it you know eh I don't feel I'm justified in saying take a job at that wage

Speaker 1:

yes yes this is eh this is just not

Speaker 2:

this is the problem you know

Speaker 1:

yes it's an argument I have over and over again with my friends (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) if there was full employment I I don't think there'd be anybody on the dole (pause) because you could push the ones that didn't want work into work

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

whereas it is now you've got nothing to offer them

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and you just have to let them (laughter) collect their money each week

Speaker 1:

yes yes eh is this the only job you've ever done did you do that as soon (interruption) as you left school

Speaker 2:

well I worked on a Saturday (pause) in a shop in a shoe shop

Speaker 1:

yeah but this was your first permanent job yeah ehm (pause) how old were you when you left school

Speaker 2:

eh sixteen

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

just over sixteen

Speaker 1:

yeah eh do you think you were glad to leave school or not

Speaker 2:

no I w I would have stayed on if I hadn't failed my examinations you know (laughter) ehm I would have like to gone to teacher's training college but ehm I got terrible GCE results so I ehm just started into civil service having passed that exam in the March before I left school you know so I had a job to go to

Speaker 1:

ah I see yes

Speaker 2:

and then when I failed my O levels I thought oh well I might as well just take it and you know I've en I've enjoyed working there

Speaker 1:

yes so which school did you go to

Speaker 2:

Elgin secondary technical school

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) and have you had any further education since then

Speaker 2:

I went for two years day release with ehm the civil service you know to get the day off a week I had to do O level course there I took ehm since then well I went two year ago and did A level sociology and English literature

Speaker 1:

oh

Speaker 2:

(laughter) I finished the sociology course but I didn't take the exam it was just more for something to do than take the exam

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and I only did one year of the literature then I dropped it it was too much I felt well I was going two nights a week and I couldn't cope with working two nights and the study

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

there was so much reading to do you know

Speaker 1:

yeah I can imagine so

Speaker 2:

and to be beneficial in my job I had to get the two together

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (interruption) yes

Speaker 2:

so (pause) you know I just packed it in I may do it later on

Speaker 1:

oh yeah it's sort of ehm (pause) it's crucial for some kind of promotion isn't it having two (interruption) together

Speaker 2:

yeah you need to have two together well (pause) there's no point in me taking just one you know other than just for recreation (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

sheer interest (laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

well I felt it was doing better than just you know sitting around at least I was improving my mind (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes good because you've still you'll still have ehm sort of better chances for promotion (interruption) in any case (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes all well I'm eligible for promotion as from later on this year

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

after you've done a certain length of time you know you're elligible for promotion

Speaker 1:

mm eh (pause) y (pause) eh you were living when you were ehm fairly young let's say when you were under twelve you were living here in fact

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh did you think it was a very good place to live from your point of view as a child you know do you did you like living here

Speaker 2:

yes because ehm at that time there was a lot of people of my age group you know around here

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm-hm

Speaker 2:

a lot of my friends come from around here you know girlfriends that I went to school with and that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

ehm I've always had a close friend near at hand (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

sort of ehm well there was two actually girls in the street the same age when I was younger

Speaker 1:

yes yes did you ehm was it was it the sort of place where kids used to play a lot you know

Speaker 2:

(unclear) yes out in the street

Speaker 1:

yeah (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

not it's never been sort of a rough place you know or a place where you played noisy games because (laughter) they're all old people (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

(laughter) ehm but we always played out mm-hm not like they don't pay out now like we used to you know

Speaker 1:

no yes I

Speaker 2:

even though I'm not all that old

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) there seems to be ehm they don't seem to play out as much

Speaker 1:

yes I know I I don't know whether that's eh I I have the same impression you know and e almost everybody in the interview says the same thing I don't know whether it's perhaps that we just don't notice them you know

Speaker 2:

possibly

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well my friends who have children I know they they don't play out (unclear) not to the extent we did anyway

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

because she takes her round you know in and out of cars sort of more than anything else you know

Speaker 1:

mm yes

Speaker 2:

but just (pause) I don't think it's a good thing

Speaker 1:

yes probably just watch television all the time

Speaker 2:

well they don't mix with so many different people you know it makes it difficult when they start school

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah (pause) ehm can you remember eh what you used to call eh the game where one of the kids had to chase the others to try to touch them

Speaker 2:

oh no I remember playing it we used to play it at school (pause) ehm

Speaker 1:

people have very different sort of n I used to call it tuggy

Speaker 2:

yeah I think (interruption) that's what we called it mm-hm

Speaker 1:

did you yeah (pause) and what did you say about the one who had to chase the other did you say she was on

Speaker 2:

she was on yeah mm-hm something like that

Speaker 1:

and eh

Speaker 2:

I can't even remember you know it's just vague sort of games we played

Speaker 1:

yes people who can remember their childhood are ehm old old men and women they always want to tell you everything about when they were little we (pause) and ehm did you have a a sort of truce word that you used to say when you wanted to call a halt in a game for some reason you know did you ehm (pause) did you used to cross your fingers and say

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no can't remember

Speaker 2:

I can't remember I think everybody just got sick and you just you know finished it

Speaker 1:

mm ehm (pause) still on the eh (pause) on the topic of what words you use for things could you tell us just eh what you call each of the rooms in this house what your normal word is for each room

Speaker 2:

ehm (unclear) kitchen what I would normally call a dining room my parents call a kitchen you know and then we have a back kitchen and bedrooms

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

oh there's bathroom

Speaker 1:

uh-huh and what about what you're in when you when you come through the front door

Speaker 2:

ehm passage

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 1:

eh again if you had a if you had a coal fire what do you call the thing that you stand in front of it to get it going

Speaker 2:

a guard oh

Speaker 1:

no to get it going you had to ehm if you have a she you know you have a sheet of tin just to stand (interruption) in front to get

Speaker 2:

blazer a blazer or bleezer that's it isn't it a (interruption) bleezer mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah mm-hm mm and what do you ehm call cleaning the plates and things after a meal

Speaker 2:

washing the dishes

Speaker 1:

yes ta (pause) eh could you tell us please just how you like to spend your spare time you know what you do in your evenings and that

Speaker 2:

I go out you know usually to a pub I like ehm to go where there's something on (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear) a drink

Speaker 2:

or something like that mm

Speaker 1:

where does is is there anywhere in Gateshead that you go as well as going to the town

Speaker 2:

ehm I go to the pubs in Gateshead or well I like the Crown in Low Fell sort of the Ravensworth I like the we usually go out sort of into the country pubs

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

ehm our friend plays in a group and we usually go to the working men's clubs to see him

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know and to see other groups that he's to recommend

Speaker 1:

mm yes I go to the Crown very occasionally myself

Speaker 2:

mm-hm I I used to like it before actually before they converted it because it was quiet there and it was just there was something about it you know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

I don't think I knew it then w what was it like

Speaker 2:

it was just two rooms and in the back they used to get sort of a very upper middle class and in the front the young sort of teeny bopper types

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

and the everybody sort of knew each other you know you could see the same faces coming in each night

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but since they've ehm changed it it's too crowded now you can't get moved

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you can't get a drink you know you stand next to the scrunched up

Speaker 1:

yes the eh the the Ravensworth it's a terribly eh county set sort of place as well isn't it (interruption) it's

Speaker 2:

mm-hm I don't like it since they put ehm a new part on where you can get snacks and that

Speaker 1:

have they I didn't (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm and I don't like it now not as much as I used to I liked to sit in the garden and that I think that's the attraction (unclear) you've got the garden

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) eh what about ehm television do you watch television

Speaker 2:

sometimes yes well the television's on all night

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you know my parents watch it all night

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so where I'm if I'm in you know I pa sort of partially watch it

Speaker 1:

yes do you what's is there anything you particularly like to watch

Speaker 2:

mm nothing in particular ehm I've got pretty broad taste you know (unclear) quite a few things

Speaker 1:

mm but you're not ehm you know you're not particularly addicted to it (interruption) you'd never s can you ever

Speaker 2:

well when I get married I wouldn't have one

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know probably not initially maybe later on but

Speaker 1:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 2:

it's not a thing I'd go out and buy as one of the first things

Speaker 1:

yeah same with me I haven't got one either ehm (pause) do you think there are any ehm you know any things that eh you would like to have done but you've never had the chance to do or you've never got round to doing or you know

Speaker 2:

I'd like to go abroad to to work

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you know to live and to get to know people

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

rather than I think I've had a very sheltered life you know just Gateshead (unclear) I've been abroad on holiday but no worked of ehm outside of Gateshead you know other than Birtley and that just within the same areas and ehm I feel I haven't met enough people

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

you know to be able to judge people which is part of my job to judge people in but I haven't really met is a different type of peoples

Speaker 1:

mm do you think you'll ehm stay in the same job you're in now or not (unclear) (interruption) or do you think you'll ever up your roots and you know go abroad and do something

Speaker 2:

ehm until I'm married (pause) until I'm married I'll stay in the same job because it has a quite large gratuity on marriage you know which keeps you in the job really I'm very materialistic (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes a cunning (unclear) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) eh these are just a few questions about your eh opinions on some ordinary matters ehm what do you think that parents should do when their children misbehave

Speaker 2:

explain to them why you know why they're getting wrong

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) I don't really believe in smacking them but I think in some cases they do need something that way just to show them you know that they're not all the

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yes

Speaker 2:

but I think to explain it more than anything else I think that's where a lot of parents go wrong

Speaker 1:

yes yes so you you wouldn't actually hit them except in rare circumstances

Speaker 2:

less I think unless I lost my temper (unclear) got really then there would be the will of God (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes and what about you know a young person of say sixteen or so what sort of do you think the parents should have any control over them

Speaker 2:

just to advise you know I wouldn't say you do this I'd say this is what I think you should do if you don't want to do it then fair enough

Speaker 1:

yes you you wouldn't want to sort of ehm make sure they were in by a certain time at night (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no well I think at sixteen they should know I would say well I expect you to be in by a certain time knowing that they wouldn't you know but knowing that they would have that guilty feeling (unclear) punishment you know

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes that's great

Speaker 2:

well you wouldn't want them to be off the straight and narrow you wouldn't not if you were like that when you were young yourself (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

I don think it's difficult you know to ehm

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

to eh sort of say be in by a certain time when you know when you were young

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you did the complete opposite

Speaker 1:

yes yes it's like smoking and things like that isn't it people always tell their kids not to smoke even if they do themselves eh and this is ehm a question you don't have to answer if you don't want to because eh some people don't eh which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

Conservative I did at the last election that's the (unclear) time I've voted but I didn't give it enough thought I don't think before I voted I don't know what I (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

does that mean does that mean you're regretting it (laughter)

Speaker 2:

well I thought they might do more for the country than they did

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah well it ehm would you say that (pause) eh you know you base your voting decision on you know the manifestos of the various parties and who you think's going to run the country best or ehm ehm which party you agree with the ideas of

Speaker 2:

I well basically the ideas ehm the reason I voted Conservative was I'm I thought it would make house buying easier for young people

Speaker 1:

mm yeah

Speaker 2:

but ehm the way things are everything seems to have tightened up you know

Speaker 1:

yes yes

Speaker 2:

sort of (unclear) so I don't know whether I did the right thing or not when you think of the increased numbers of unemployed I think I did the wrong thing

Speaker 1:

yes yes do you think that do you think that you'll always vote the same way or do you think that you'll change according to

Speaker 2:

I think my vote will change probably every time I vote because I've got that type of mind you know the sort of mind that jumps from one thing to the other

Speaker 1:

mm eh do you think that ehm you know a a lot of people vote i in a certain way because eh well because their parents voted that way or because they're (pause) working class people or because they're not working class people whatever they mean by that you know do you think that do you think that's a reasonable way for people to vote or not

Speaker 2:

well I know it happens you know I've seen a lot of this ehm they all seem to vote either like their parents did or because they work in a factory or something and they think they should vote Labour but ehm (pause) I think if you're going to use your vote to full advantage you should (pause) study what you're voting for you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 2:

I can't say that I do because I you know I very rarely have time to interest myself in politics last time I'd say I just voted the way I felt at that moment you know didn't go into it deeply

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah but you ehm you don't you wouldn't imagine yourself voting because of ehm you know whether you own your own house or something like that or because (interruption) of the sort of class you belong to

Speaker 2:

no (pause) well my par my mother's straight (unclear) dad's Labour so I'm torn between two you know (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes yes eh mm (pause) now if we can just eh go on to talk a bit about eh the thing that we are most interested in that's the way you talk and what you think about the way people talk especially ehm firstly do you think that you ever change the way you talk according to you know the company you're in the person you're talking to or (interruption)

Speaker 2:

all the time because i it's the job I'm in you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) if I get a a chap that speaks broad Tyneside he's not going to be at ease if I talk all sort of lardy da and the other way round if I get a commercial and I talk broad Tyneside he's going to think oh it is an opinion people get you know they think because someone talks in a local accent that they're a grade below

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

I've noticed this you know even with just the people I work with that their accents change according to the to the people they interview

Speaker 1:

yes what ehm what sort of voice would you say you were talking in at the moment

Speaker 2:

ordinary I've talked for too long (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

so this is your I mean would you say this was your most localized voice

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes yes ehm yeah and do you also think that eh on a fairly long term basis you've talked more or less the same all your life or do you think you've changed it

Speaker 2:

no it's always been very much the same ehm maybe a bit more slang when I was younger you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yes

Speaker 2:

but other than that I'm just just the same

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh on the whole do you eh approve of people talking in local accents you know well Tyneside accents especially

Speaker 2:

well

Speaker 1:

an aesthetic matter you know you think that one sounds nicer than than the other but you you wouldn't say that you disapproved of say broad localized accents for any other reason I mean you don't?

Speaker 2:

well they're difficult to understand people that speak broad Tyneside ehm I mean I know a lot of Tyneside words I sort of I I could make it out but anyone else sort of coming into the region to be confronted with someone in a broad Tyneside accent try and understand what they're saying

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

just the same as if we went to London you know and we heard a Cockney and we would find it difficult to understand

Speaker 1:

yeah yes it's eh (unclear) possible ehm do you think that eh you would ehm correct your children if you had any for talking (unclear) in very localized ehm accent you know perhaps saying a've just fallen doon and hit me heed or something

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I would because I (laughter) I do it (unclear) but ehm I think it's something we should be proud of you know not to be used (pause) a lot but I think when it's it's a thing you should be proud of you shouldn't be ashamed of speaking a local accent

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I don't believe that but eh there again I I don't know it doesn't sound right you know (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) you mean it sounds all right on stage or something like that you know I mean that it's not quite a that broad Tyneside isn't quite a language to speak but a language to listen to on special occasions for amusement or something

Speaker 2:

not for amusement I would say ehm (pause) I don't to be quite honest I don't really know I've never given it enough thought but I feel that it's a thing for the region you know for this particular area and that we shouldn't pull it down at all

Speaker 1:

yes (interruption) yes yes

Speaker 2:

and yet I do in my own life you know I mean my friends always correct their children if they speak broad Tyneside

Speaker 1:

yes this I

Speaker 2:

and I suppose I might correct my children just as a matter of ehm (pause) (interruption) it's the thing to do to to speak properly

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) it's a strange thing (unclear) nearly everybody corrects their children about it even the most broad Tyneside speakers you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

which is odd

Speaker 2:

I don't know why yeah but I suppose it's the thing that people think you get on well in life if you speak correctly

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and employers do consider that you know (laughter)

Speaker 1:

nasty ehm (pause) do you think that eh you know eh say the way the newsreaders speak on television when they're reading out the news ehm do you do you look upon that as being a particularly eh correct form of speech I mean do you approve of it

Speaker 2:

it sounds false you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

it sounds put on (pause) but ehm (pause) I've never given it much thought really

Speaker 1:

it doesn't sound like anything that you could ever really use you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

no maybe a bit too

Speaker 1:

do you know anybody yourself that talks very like that

Speaker 2:

yes one or two

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) both of them are (pause) members of the theatrical (pause) group in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

uh-huh

Speaker 2:

and probably th I always put it down to that (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) uh-huh mm eh this might eh m might strike you as a rather vague sort of question but eh well I don't know perhaps you're used to this sort of thing in your job what what kinds of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know a apart from say where he comes from which you might have a guess at but on Tyne you know among Tynesiders what do you think you can tell about people

Speaker 2:

class to a certain extent you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

not that there is such a great class now as there used to be I think more people tend to just think they're working class (laughter) everybody (interruption) thinks that they're working class

Speaker 1:

(laughter) everybody thinks they're working

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes would you say you could make fairly ehm you know fairly fine guesses about people or just broad ones you know I mean (pause) would you be willing to to guess within certain limits what kind of job a person might do from listening to him talk

Speaker 2:

you could probably put him in (unclear) one of three categories you know

Speaker 1:

so you would say whether (unclear)

Speaker 2:

depending on what you were talking about you know it would depend what he was talking about

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

you would need sort of extra guidance for us deciding

Speaker 1:

yes but would do you think then on the whole you could tell betw you know the difference between somebody who worked in a factory and somebody who worked in an office

Speaker 2:

well depending depends on the individual but you usu taken broadly you usually ehm well an office worker sort of tries to speak better than a ehm than a factory worker you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but it's n I think it's because factory workers (pause) speak the tone you want you can say what you like where they sort of speak when when the opportunity arises when the machine stops and things like that

Speaker 1:

yes that's yeah there's definitely

Speaker 2:

and it depends on the type of work you do because if you're doing a repetitive job you know I could imagine you get pretty sick

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and sort of chunter on and that these girls in the eh you know when they're on the production lines and that if you hear a factory full of them (unclear)

Speaker 1:

uh-huh uh-huh yeah (laughter) do you think that eh women tend to be less localized in than men (pause) you know on the whole would you say that you know a a man would usually be a more localized speaker than his wife

Speaker 2:

I don't think a man puts as much emphasis on on the way he speaks as a woman it sort of well it depends on the woman really

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know I I know a lot of girls that just they speak the way they speak and they don't think any more about it and yet I know other girls who try to be sort of up really you know

Speaker 1:

yes aye (pause) eh what ehm to take a a concrete example of this what would you say about my accent from listening to it

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't think you had any accent at all

Speaker 1:

really I mean would you say that I come from Tyneside

Speaker 2:

no well I'd say you came from Tyneside but I wouldn't say you spoke broad Geordie

Speaker 1:

no no but I mm yes I'm always worried about people say that that do you think that if if you didn't you know I mean if you just sort of heard me passing on the street do you think you would ever do you think you would be able to guess that I was a Tynesider just from hearing a few words

Speaker 2:

yes I think so because people from other parts of the country they have sort of this difference in the way they speak you know as opposed to here

Speaker 1:

and what what would eh

Speaker 2:

well I wouldn't think I don't think he comes from round here you know if I heard you speak

Speaker 1:

I see what you mean yes yes

Speaker 2:

but I wouldn't think he definitely lives on Tyneside

Speaker 1:

yes yes yes what would you say ehm how do you think my voice compares with yours

Speaker 2:

about the same perhaps I'm a bit more broad than you

Speaker 1:

really I I I was just sitting here thinking exactly the opposite

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

which is odd (laughter) it's g it's good that it's it's almost (unclear) really (unclear) about (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) the truth (unclear) we're seeking for the truth you know yeah it's funny and yet you know I was ehm (pause) of course I I might be talking differently in you know now than t than what I normally talk (pause) because eh you know I have lived in Gateshead all my life like

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

as far as I know I've always talked more or less the same

Speaker 2:

I don't think you notice sort of much yourself as probably an outsider

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

you know sort of people I've worked with maybe they can notice the difference

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

or people I haven't seen for a while to get them to express an opinion like that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes oh eh yes eh (pause) would you just read that list of words for us please

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down talk straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film that it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

I should type that out again it's getting far too scruffy (unclear) now eh I'm going to read out a list of words and for each one I would just like to know well firstly whether you're familiar with it and secondly whether whether you use it they're all fairly localized words you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) aside for 'beside'

Speaker 2:

aside

Speaker 1:

would you say it's just aside the fire

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

just aside the fire

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh a bairn

Speaker 2:

bairn yes

Speaker 1:

mm bait

Speaker 2:

bait yes

Speaker 1:

bonny

Speaker 2:

not so much no

Speaker 1:

no eh bray

Speaker 2:

bray

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) you do but you wouldn't use it but you know what it means

Speaker 2:

I don't know what it means

Speaker 1:

for 'to hit'

Speaker 2:

oh bray

Speaker 1:

aye mm-hm

Speaker 2:

mm-hm yes I use it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm (laughter) bullets

Speaker 2:

bullets are sweets yes not very often you know but

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah clamming

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm boody

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

yeah boody

Speaker 2:

no I don't know what that means

Speaker 1:

don't you ehm china broken ch especially broken china

Speaker 2:

oh (pause) I've heard of it but I I wouldn't say I used it

Speaker 1:

mm coin

Speaker 2:

coin maybe but I would (interruption) mean money

Speaker 1:

no oh yes yes what about coin a corner

Speaker 2:

oh no turn the corner

Speaker 1:

yes aye

Speaker 2:

coin the corner (pause) no I wouldn't s I I know what it means

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) but you y y you have also heard eh ha haven't got much coin (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (laughter)

Speaker 1:

ehm cree cree

Speaker 2:

for cradle

Speaker 1:

oh s

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) me I usually think it's a place where you keep your pigeons

Speaker 2:

oh a pigeon cree

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

yes I've heard of that and I would use it mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes yes eh (pause) lowe lowe for a flame or a light (pause) no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

give us a lowe for give us a light no ehm mense be more to your mense to get some work done

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh parky

Speaker 2:

parky yeah

Speaker 1:

about your food

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm varnigh varnigh

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ever heard it no varnigh very nearly varnigh missed the bus

Speaker 2:

oh I've probably heard it you know when you say it in a sentence it

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

but I wouldn't I wouldn't use it

Speaker 1:

you wouldn't use it (pause) fair enough eh mell

Speaker 2:

mell

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

hammer

Speaker 2:

what's that hammer

Speaker 1:

I don't think many women use the word mell actually but it's what ehm (pause) you know it's what blokes always call a big hammer a big mell ehm what about eh knool to be knooled

Speaker 2:

knooled

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes ehm now eh (pause) (unclear) more or less on the same

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