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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG20

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG20

Age Group:

21-30

Gender:

Male

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 16; subsequent teacher training college

Occupation:

Student (Teacher Training)

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  Interview Transcript

Speaker 1:

to identify the tape right (pause) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

T L S G three twenty four

Speaker 1:

ta ehm well could you tell us first of all eh where you were born please

Speaker 2:

eh I was born in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

(unclear) whereabouts

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) Walker eh (pause) I think I was born in the Queen Elizabeth hospital

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter)

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) do you want the eh (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

whereabouts did you live yeah

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) Walker Terrace

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that's on Bensham Road

Speaker 1:

yes yeah eh (pause) and whereabouts else have you lived since then you know how long (interruption) did you stay there

Speaker 2:

Wrekenton (pause) for about six years

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and I've lived here for about three months

Speaker 1:

yeah but all the rest of the time you were in Marsden in

Speaker 2:

(unclear) in yeah

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

Marsden Grove

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) how w what did you think of those different places you know as places to live in like which did you like best

Speaker 2:

well I can't remember very much about Walker Terrace

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you know because I was quite young (pause) when I was there

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) and you just

Speaker 2:

well I didn't like leaving it

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but looking back now you know the premises weren't too good

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know for living in

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

ehm and Marsden Grove's a (pause) you know I don't like that area very (interruption) very much no

Speaker 1:

do you not what was wrong with it like

Speaker 2:

no it's not a very good council estate

Speaker 1:

no it's it has a bit of a reputation Marsden Grove (unclear) a rough area

Speaker 2:

all the delinquents come from round about there

Speaker 1:

that's right yeah

Speaker 2:

Blackhill Crescent

Speaker 1:

yes yeah I've just been doing some interviews up there

Speaker 2:

have you

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah

Speaker 2:

you've never seen some of the homes

Speaker 1:

it's a good laugh (laughter) yes yeah (pause) ehm would you say that ehm (pause) that you were fairly attached to Gateshead as a place to live in you know do you think you would ever live well in Newcastle for instance

Speaker 2:

well I suppose I'm attached to Gateshead you know (pause) eh (pause) I would have no qualms about leaving Gateshead

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know I'm not emotionally attached to Gateshead

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

particularly

Speaker 1:

mm you would go away sort of I mean if if your job called for it or something (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yeah well I'm still at college at the moment (interruption) so you know I've got to stay here really

Speaker 1:

are you aye (pause) mm whereabouts w which college are you (interruption) at

Speaker 2:

Bede College Durham

Speaker 1:

in Durham

Speaker 2:

mm mm

Speaker 1:

mm mm mm eh what are you doing there

Speaker 2:

teacher training course

Speaker 1:

oh I see yeah (pause) (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

that's a is that part of the university

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

it is right yes

Speaker 2:

well officially it is you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (interruption) funny

Speaker 2:

just an ordinary teacher training college

Speaker 1:

I see (interruption) yes it's

Speaker 2:

just an ordinary

Speaker 1:

yeah it's not like a college like a Cambridge college or or something like that funny set up at Durham you know (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

it is strange (unclear) really strange

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) yes we always run against eh Durham University and they turn out all these (interruption) coll odd college teams you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (pause) yeah Bede College have got (pause) a very good rugby team I think

Speaker 1:

yeah yes (pause) ehm (pause) eh whereabouts were your parents born were they born in Gateshead

Speaker 2:

(unclear) my father was born in Gateshead as far as I know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and his parents ehm (pause) my mother comes from was born in Goole

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and she comes and she lived in Leeds

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you know from (pause) teenage I think

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah (pause) and

Speaker 2:

and all my (pause) you know relations on my mother's side are (pause) still from Leeds

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) Yorkshire

Speaker 1:

mm and eh what was what's your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

well just a labourer really

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah yeah mm eh how old are you now

Speaker 2:

twenty one

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

two on Saturday

Speaker 1:

yeah and eh do you do you own this house yourself

Speaker 2:

no ehm just moved in eh well just being on a government grant you know it's a bit

Speaker 1:

oh yeah yes

Speaker 2:

pretty much can't buy

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

buy accommodation we're just renting it at the moment (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

probably when I leave college we'll be (pause) saving up like mad

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

it's it's a massive house isn't do you you rent it (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well it's in two flats you know there's upstairs (interruption) and there's downstairs eh

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I know the bloke I'm renting it off you know so it's

Speaker 1:

aye I see yeah

Speaker 2:

it helps

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

it goes back quite a long way (interruption) you know it's

Speaker 1:

yes I noticed (unclear) I noticed like but like yeah

Speaker 2:

been a privilege

Speaker 1:

yeah a lot of these houses are sort of subdivided aren't they because they must have been (interruption) veritable mansions in their day (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yeah (unclear) (pause) must've been it's absolutely fantastic this you know three floors there's (pause) (interruption) the attics in the top you know

Speaker 1:

is there (unclear) great (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I suppose you really want me to keep talking don't you (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (pause) ehm (pause) you are married are you

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes mm is your wife from (pause) (interruption) Gateshead as well

Speaker 2:

(unclear) in Gateshead yes

Speaker 1:

Gateshead

Speaker 2:

(unclear) her parents are probably Gateshead

Speaker 1:

mm (unclear) (pause) were you you know if we could go on to talk about your (pause) work (unclear) well if you call it (unclear) people say that students do any work you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh (pause) what eh what stage are you up to in your in your training like you know

Speaker 2:

well I've just finished a year (pause) the first my first year (pause) ehm I'd worked before I'd gone into college you know (interruption) since leaving school

Speaker 1:

did you oh I see yeah when did you leave school like

Speaker 2:

eh sixty eight

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I worked in a library for a year

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

Gateshead libraries

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

(unclear) yeah

Speaker 1:

did you used to work at the central like

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

mm I must have seen you there

Speaker 2:

yeah probably

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

and then I I worked at the DEP Department of Employment and Productivity

Speaker 1:

oh yeah

Speaker 2:

for a year the dole

Speaker 1:

where oh aye I see yeah where were you

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

actually working at Windmill Hills

Speaker 2:

yeah mm

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

Windmill Hills first and then we moved over (pause) to the end of Sunderland Road

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yeah yeah well that must be fair fairly recently then have you have you just gone into college

Speaker 2:

just gone into college (interruption) this last term last year

Speaker 1:

oh I see yeah yes yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

what did you what did you think of working in the in the dole you know

Speaker 2:

it's horrible

Speaker 1:

is it

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

I've got a cousin does the same like you know

Speaker 2:

have you

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

but (pause) he's sort of eh (pause) stricken by periodic fits of depression about human nature you know

Speaker 2:

well that's it you know I I think (pause) y you get a very negative sort of outlook (pause) you know you're just

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

dealing with the same type of person

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) did you think most of the people that you had to deal with were like you know sort of well not interested in finding jobs for themselves

Speaker 2:

well there's quite a few of them (pause) quite honestly spongers you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

but lots of them (pause) you know (pause) really out of work (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

difficult y you can tell the two the two types (pause) (interruption) quite easily

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) yeah I suppose it must have been quite depressing recently if you never had any jobs to give them you know I mean

Speaker 2:

yes that that was it you know especially (pause) during the winter you know when the building trade was (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

anyway I was talking about college wasn't I yeah

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

ehm

Speaker 1:

why did you why why did you decide to (pause) jack it in and go to college like

Speaker 2:

well I just I've always fancied teaching really

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

ehm

Speaker 1:

but you didn't ehm (pause) you didn't go to it straight (interruption) as soon as you left school (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no not straight away (pause) don't know why (pause) fancied earning some money I suppose

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

doing eh (pause) religious studies

Speaker 1:

are you (unclear) still do that

Speaker 2:

then going back to I qualified for the B Ed

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

did a course

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

last term this term

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and ehm be going back to do history (pause) as well as R S

Speaker 1:

mm-hm does that mean you'll do (pause) four years now

Speaker 2:

yeah another three years

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

are you doing any teaching this year

Speaker 2:

yes I did teaching practice at Stanley

Speaker 1:

did you

Speaker 2:

that's a marvellous place

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

have you never been there

Speaker 1:

no I don't think so (unclear)

Speaker 2:

it's absolutely great

Speaker 1:

how do you mean like the people (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well (pause) (unclear) it's just a (pause) depressing sort of area

Speaker 1:

is it

Speaker 2:

very depressing

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

grey grim

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

grimy

Speaker 1:

mm what what did you think of ehm (pause) of teaching you know some of my friends say it's a eh horrific experience almost

Speaker 2:

well I suppose it is when you go into a secondary modern school but I've never been into one yet you know

Speaker 1:

oh well just just been teaching the

Speaker 2:

(unclear) in a primary school

Speaker 1:

just a oh

Speaker 2:

junior school

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I'm dreading next year's teaching practice

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah (pause) (unclear) there is a friend of mine had some pretty rough experiences down at Walker comprehensive (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) want to get (interruption) stuck in a place like

Speaker 2:

he's never actually been knifed yet (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) not quite no but he quite a lot of tussles with the (pause) the young lads down there mm

Speaker 2:

yes well I was working as the probation officer for the last two weeks of term

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you know attached to Gateshead (pause) and some of the cases of ehm that we dealt with there you know the

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

we we found that there'd there'd been trouble all through through school life and then (interruption) it had (pause) finally come out in criminality after they'd left school

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

most of them hated school

Speaker 1:

pr (pause) yes probably all through their home life and that (interruption) as well (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes that's probably it

Speaker 1:

just done for from the start really yeah (pause) (unclear) ehm (pause) eh (pause) what eh (pause) it's another artificial topic of conversation you see ehm (pause) what eh what kinds of things do you like to do in your spare time you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I don't get any spare time (laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) mm I listen to records I like listening to records (interruption) you can probably see

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) that's a Gateshead library record isn't it

Speaker 2:

that's that's one of them yes that one

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I just got that out out this afternoon

Speaker 1:

it's good a place that isn't it the record library

Speaker 2:

it's quite good they've shifted they've moved it you know

Speaker 1:

have they moved (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

quite a good selection

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

some of them are pretty badly marked though

Speaker 1:

that's true yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

scratched

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) (unclear) do you like Sibelius or is that just a (unclear)

Speaker 2:

not particularly I mean I just I I like that (pause) bit of Sibelius Finlandia and the Karelia Suite

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

that's about all I've really got used to (unclear) (interruption) I find it difficult to get used to

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) I used to be a real Sibelius (unclear) at one time you develop a (unclear) geet young and romantic like you now (unclear) great (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes (pause) I don't know very much about Sibelius I wish I I wish I could like (pause) you know what's on the other side of that record you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

what is it Valse Triste

Speaker 1:

Valse Triste yeah

Speaker 2:

and something else

Speaker 1:

one of the little little pieces (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) little pieces

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) it's a nice record player (unclear)

Speaker 2:

yeah that was a wedding present

Speaker 1:

was it

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (pause) in laws come in handy sometimes you know

Speaker 1:

true true (pause) th they they seem to be one of the few i items that's getting cheaper these days it's you know

Speaker 2:

yes that was quite reasonable (unclear) I think it was just in the region of about forty odd (pause) (interruption) quid

Speaker 1:

yeah mm-hm it's surprising

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

separate sets you know they (pause) (interruption) used to be really expensive

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

it's a BSR deck as well you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

it's supposed to be pretty reliable

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) ehm do you go out very often or do you stay in most of the time

Speaker 2:

I think I stay in most the time (pause) quite a bit of work to do well I've been working up to exams you know since getting married

Speaker 1:

(unclear) you had some this year did you

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

we've been out you know this week quite often we've been up to the pub in this hot weather

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear) you're a better man than me if you can (interruption) work during the evenings you know

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

I cut off at about 7 o'clock

Speaker 2:

apart from doing this of course (unclear) (pause) good fun

Speaker 1:

it's good fun yes mm mm what about ehm watching television do you watch telly (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh I haven't got a telly

Speaker 1:

have you not that's good (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

well I think it you know you find yourself wasting a lot of time with the television (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I would anyway I'm sure I would

Speaker 1:

that's true

Speaker 2:

I'm sure I'd become a telly addict

Speaker 1:

aye yes (pause) yeah I was talking to a bloke the other night who had got rid of his for this purpose

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

not because he didn't like it but because he thought he was getting mm mm

Speaker 2:

because I love westerns you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) and on once I start watching anything on the t

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

TV I just can't switch it off

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah (pause) it's a it's a great r relaxing thing (interruption) (unclear) chair

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) we are eh (pause) also (unclear) interested in some words that you use for things ehm (pause) first could you tell us eh just what you call each of the rooms in this house you know what your normal word is for each room

Speaker 2:

eh well this is the sitting room

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

bedroom (pause) dining room

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

eh kitchen bathroom (pause) and I suppose that's the long passage out there

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah eh and ehm to get out your back door you have to lift the what do you call that

Speaker 2:

yes well I know two words for that (pause) w well I just suppose I call it the latch

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

there is like the word 'sneck'

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but I don't use it

Speaker 1:

you don't (unclear) call it (unclear) sneck

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm (pause) (unclear) (pause) ehm and do you know eh if you've got a coal fire what do you call the thing you stand in front of it to get it going

Speaker 2:

oh yes there's a very good word for that it's a 'bleezer'

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm (pause) and eh what do you call eh cleaning the plates and things after a meal

Speaker 2:

washing up

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm ta

Speaker 2:

am I giving all the standard Geordie answers (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) no no not not not at all in fact (laughter)

Speaker 2:

I don't mind

Speaker 1:

do you think of yourself as being very Geordie

Speaker 2:

well (pause) I wouldn't like to become so affected that I was (pause) worried about having a Geordie accent I like accents I think they're

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know not not too much of a one though

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

otherwise e well everyone speaks the same you know (pause) not really very interesting

Speaker 1:

aye you wouldn't think it would be a good idea for everybody to talk the (interruption) same

Speaker 2:

no I certainly wouldn't

Speaker 1:

no (pause) but would you say that you ehm (pause) do you (unclear) disapprove of local accents you know if they're very broad

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

never

Speaker 1:

not particularly what if ehm you know if if you had a a some children and and they used very (pause) broad speech do you think you would correct them about it

Speaker 2:

that's pretty difficult ehm (pause) well I think most people are bilingual anyway

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know ehm they have their local dialect when they're at home

Speaker 1:

yeah (interruption) that's true like

Speaker 2:

(unclear) various people and they have another language when they're talking to superiors

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes do you do you find that that you do that specifically (interruption) I mean do you have to

Speaker 2:

yes yes I'm sure I do

Speaker 1:

aye what ehm eh (pause) in what sort of circumstances do you think you change you know mm (pause) what sort of people would you have to be talking to to

Speaker 2:

well you know when I used to work in the dole

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know I didn't use to put on like any sort of affected

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

affectations there you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

when you're talking (pause) I suppose there is such a thing as a class (pause) system you know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) aye and what about what what would you say about the way you're talking at the moment you know is this a is this a dole voice (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no (pause) it's fairly normal with me I think

Speaker 1:

this would be (pause) I mean the way you would talk to your wife for instance

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

or your friends (unclear)

Speaker 2:

except for the few ings on the end of the words which she'd probably (pause) pick up them

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) I'm not listening for them at the moment but when I get this to analyse I'll be listening for

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye but y you reckon you have more sort of (pause) you have more localized and less localized (unclear) ehm (pause) varieties than you're speaking at the moment

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm mm

Speaker 2:

well (unclear) why aye man you know (interruption) I would never use that (pause) just at the moment (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (pause) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

I would with friends

Speaker 1:

that was a quotation yeah mm ehm mm would you also say that you know on a fairly (pause) long term basis that you've always talked the same all during your life

Speaker 2:

I don't think so I think (pause) I've probably changed you know I went to a grammar school

Speaker 1:

yeah you went to Gateshead grammar

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I think it probably changed (pause) round about the age of eleven (pause) you know from then onwards

Speaker 1:

yeah going towards sort of (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know my brother just went to an ordinary secondary modern school

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

you know I suppose there was a difference between the way I'll talk now and the way he talks now

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

mm so you were more localized when you were young in fact probably (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) very true mm (pause) ehm (pause) you know ehm (pause) what do you think of you know the sort of BBC voice the newsreader's accent

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

ehm what do you think of that you know do you think is a

Speaker 2:

well it's (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

particularly good way to talk or

Speaker 2:

I think (unclear) it's all right on the television (pause) but I think (pause) if you actually had someone standing in front of you

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

and talking to you like that I think you'd be pretty uncomfortable (interruption) unless you talk like that

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) yes I know what you mean

Speaker 2:

you know I think it sounds

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I don't think it sounds very nice

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

sounds all right on the on the box

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah do you ehm do you know very many people personally who talk like that (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

like among your friends let's say apart from perhaps lecturers at college (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I have friends at college you know who come from different parts of the country you know further south

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear) talk more like that

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know I know one lad who comes from Oxford and he talks (interruption) (pause) rather like that yeah

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes (pause) I think that's the centre of all these

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

I haven't any friends around here you know who talk like that

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

local friends

Speaker 1:

no there aren't very many you can yeah you can nearly you can always tell people who come from Tyneside whereas you know ehm no matter how much they try to change

Speaker 2:

even the lecturers at college you know some of them come from like one of them comes from around here Tyneside Newcastle you know and you can still tell

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) ehm do you feel ehm that there's fairly strong eh (pause) class correlation with language you know do you think you can (pause) make good guesses about people's social status and so on from the way they talk

Speaker 2:

I think you can but (pause) it comes unstuck you know

Speaker 1:

it does yes it yes

Speaker 2:

eh you find blokes who've been (pause) tuppeny ha'penny clerks you know in the civil service

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

but they've ehm (pause) beautiful accents you know

Speaker 1:

yeah it's yes it's (unclear)

Speaker 2:

rather complicated accents you know I couldn't be like that really

Speaker 1:

aye (pause) yeah but in in general would you say that

Speaker 2:

I think (interruption) so

Speaker 1:

you're not against I mean eh (pause) like when you were at the dole for instance and coming into contact with (pause) perhaps lots of people who did lots of different jobs do you think you could tell (pause) you know somebody who worked in a factory from somebody who worked in an office

Speaker 2:

well the labouring class never speaks with an Oxford English

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) mm yeah but th they obviously would probably speak a different variety of Tyneside I would think (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

you know c do you think you could tell the difference between like a labourer and a you know a civil servant you know like a C O at the ministry

Speaker 2:

well yes (laughter) yes I think I could

Speaker 1:

yes that's good yeah

Speaker 2:

their language is probably a lot more coarse to start with

Speaker 1:

yes even though they would both be recognisably Tyneside

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) mm mm (pause) mm (pause) what eh this is a should be an interesting question eh what what sort of accent would you say that I've got from listening to it now

Speaker 2:

well I think you'd have a a Tyneside accent

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

ehm I don't know what side of the river

Speaker 1:

you c you you can't you can't particularly guess about that

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

never no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

ehm

Speaker 2:

it's Gateshead or Newcastle isn't

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

east (pause) certainly isn't east

Speaker 1:

it's not Walker (laughter)

Speaker 2:

no it's not Walker

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah what about ehm would you say it was like yours

Speaker 2:

probably

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) good eh yes I suppose that figures because we probably come from very similar sort of background if you (unclear) think about (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

but (unclear) (unclear) it isn't from Gateshead you know could be (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

from Gateshead (unclear) (pause) mm (pause) ehm (unclear) I I take it that people c can normally tell that you come from Tyneside you know when you're in other parts of the country

Speaker 2:

well I was sitting sitting in a train once coming home from Yorkshire and there's there was this lad talking to me you know and he couldn't (pause) he wouldn't have been able to tell

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

did your your your mother came from Yorkshire

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

did she talk in a Yorkshire accent you know

Speaker 2:

she doesn't now

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

apart from one or two little

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

odd expressions can't remember them now

Speaker 1:

does she talk fairly typical Tyneside now

Speaker 2:

yes I would say so

Speaker 1:

(unclear) aye you don't you don't remember there being like like a Yorkshire influence (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) I was very young I suppose but I can't remember that

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) mm mm ehm (pause) do you think that you could just read that list of words for us please

Speaker 2:

all right

Speaker 1:

fairly quickly

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

mm ta (pause) I think you read them in fact you know most people change their voice quite a lot when they read but you d (unclear) I didn't notice that you did you know you seemed to read them as (unclear) as you would say them in conversation (pause) (unclear) oh I tell you what I meant to ask you as well about ehm eh if you believe in this sort of thing eh which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

eh well to tell you the truth I don't really know you know eh (interruption) last time I voted with Tory

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) did you (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I'm having having my doubts now

Speaker 1:

aye (laughter)

Speaker 2:

I think I'm a socialist at heart really

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

eh you know I've I haven't got much faith in politics

Speaker 1:

mm you don't you know I'm I'm assum it looks like you don't have any faith at all in the present Labour party

Speaker 2:

no I (pause) I don't really know I (interruption) you know it's hard to say

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) but you (unclear) you reckon that you'll probably change your vote (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I think I probably will yes (unclear) most of the population do I think

Speaker 1:

ah I I I (interruption) I don't think this is true actually

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (pause) don't you

Speaker 1:

no I think you're a very odd sort of (unclear) because ehm (pause) most of the people I've interviewed are fairly s you know fairly strongly set in one in one track or (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I voted Labour because my father voted Labour

Speaker 1:

exactly yes (pause) and and even funnier I I I vote Conservative because we own this house (laughter)

Speaker 2:

yes mm-hm

Speaker 1:

you know which is quite common (pause) some people are honest enough to admit it but it's eh you know for some people it's probably true (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well I j I just don't know you know I think I think I've (pause) got more socialist ideals than Tory ideals you know

Speaker 1:

mm yeah

Speaker 2:

I feel more at home with eh (pause) working class people (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm yes

Speaker 2:

I think

Speaker 1:

mm mm do you do you think it's ehm you know what do you think of eh like the notion that working class people ought to vote Labour you know which is you know which is very common do you think it's the do you think it's the sort of thing that ought to come into voting or

Speaker 2:

well it happens doesn't it

Speaker 1:

it happens yeah but you know (interruption) do you think (unclear) do you think it should happen that the point

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (pause) well that's a different matter you know I I wouldn't like to

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

prognosticate and that (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) would like to say about that (pause) I'm not a political thinker

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) yes eh that it's you know it always looks to me as if there's two ways of voting you know you (interruption) can either vote because of some sort of well ideological alignment (interruption) or because (pause) eh you know or because you like the manifesto of one party and you think they're going to do better for the country (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) mm (interruption) yes (interruption) or because it's just your class you vote that way

Speaker 1:

yes mm mm mm (pause) ehm (pause) anyway back to eh (pause) getting back to language eh (interruption) I've I've got a

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah I I've got a ehm a list of words here which I'm going to read out and they're all sort of fairly local words you know and I would just like to know eh firstly if you're familiar with it and secondly eh if you use it yourself you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh aside for beside

Speaker 2:

beside

Speaker 1:

yeah do you say do you ever say it's just aside the fire (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

I don't say that

Speaker 1:

ehm bairn (pause) little bairn

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (pause) no I don't say it (unclear)

Speaker 1:

no ehm bait

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

right eh bonny

Speaker 2:

(unclear) yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) bray

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear) fun you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

I say lots of these words in fun

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

you know where's my bait you know

Speaker 1:

yes (unclear) yeah ehm (pause) bullets

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no (unclear) clamming

Speaker 2:

I know it I don't use it

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm boody

Speaker 2:

now I didn't know that at all until eh (pause) at Scott Dobson's (interruption) (unclear) thing it was yeah

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (pause) (unclear) (pause) ehm cree

Speaker 2:

cree (pause) I know of it I don't don't use it

Speaker 1:

mm mm mm eh fettle

Speaker 2:

I know it I don't use it

Speaker 1:

do you not do you never say to fettle this or (interruption) (unclear) fettle this

Speaker 2:

oh fettle (unclear) yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

there's another meaning for that isn't there

Speaker 1:

well you can be in good fettle and that (unclear) but I think that I think they're you know they're (interruption) I'll fettle it meaning's more common

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

but you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I think I used to use it

Speaker 1:

mm yeah (pause) pretty useful sort of word

Speaker 2:

it is isn't it

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) gully

Speaker 2:

gully (pause) no I don't I never I don't use (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

for a bread knife

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

ehm howk

Speaker 2:

(laughter) yes (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well yes I sometimes used that one in the firm actually

Speaker 1:

right ehm mense be more to your mense to get some work done

Speaker 2:

I've never heard that

Speaker 1:

no (unclear) ehm (pause) parky

Speaker 2:

yes I know of that one I don't use it

Speaker 1:

like being fussy about (interruption) your food (unclear)

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) varnigh

Speaker 2:

don't know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm (unclear) for nearly (unclear) varnigh missed the bus

Speaker 2:

no don't know it

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh mell

Speaker 2:

no don't know that one

Speaker 1:

no for a hammer eh what about eh knooled to be knooled

Speaker 2:

no I don't know that one

Speaker 1:

no (unclear) to be hen pecked or kept down

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

nice word (unclear) ehm (pause) ow eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out eh (pause) this list of sentences and for each one I would like to know ehm if it sounds like a fairly normal sort of sentence to you you know they're all they're all sort of bits of localized grammar eh that you might or might not have so just if it sounds like something that you might say if the circumstances (interruption) arose like you know

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) (unclear) were you wakened last night when I came in

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

were you awake

Speaker 1:

yes eh I was still a bed when you called this morning

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm (pause) he never gave us any

Speaker 2:

yes I would use that

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh do you not go there very often

Speaker 2:

I use that

Speaker 1:

mm ehm they're useless them

Speaker 2:

yes I would use that

Speaker 1:

(unclear) me and John went to the races on Saturday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh (pause) eh you know my cousin that her husband died

Speaker 2:

maybe maybe yes

Speaker 1:

mm (unclear) (pause) eh with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh (pause) eh ehm (unclear) I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh we go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh (pause) these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

possibly

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no (unclear) (pause) I think we're going to be soon for the picture

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (pause) eh would you mind stop talking

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) no do you want a cup of tea making

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh you know him that used to work on the railways

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh he happened a nasty accident

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm (pause) I've put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm (pause) I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) when did it happen you

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

when did it happen you

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) I've got money belonging him

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh (pause) it's all right for you you're used with it

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh (pause) we've been waiting of a bus

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) I think they're going to give him the job permanent

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

eh I don't bother much about the television and that

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (pause) there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

Speaker 2:

sometimes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm many people were there there

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm where did you get it at

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh never mind I'll manage but

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh (pause) me and George is going to the town today

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh (pause) Jack didn't think much to the race

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm ehm (pause) all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm what would you prefer to say they (interruption) hadn't seen it

Speaker 2:

they hadn't seen it

Speaker 1:

right yeah ehm it's far too long this

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) how's your wife and family then

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm Joe cannot come tomorrow being as he's working late

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

(unclear) eh he wants his wages paid immediately

Speaker 2:

y yes (unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh just light the fire on will you

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm-hm ehm (pause) I'll clout yous both in a minute

Speaker 2:

possibly yes (laughter) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh (pause) pass us one of them spanners

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh I've broke a plate

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm I come this morning but you weren't in

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh he done it all right

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm I had forgetten to buy the onions

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes eh he give us a pound for doing it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh we had went to the coast for the day

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no (unclear) I seen Albert on Tuesday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh I'm not going to stand being tret like that

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm eh (pause) that's what happens when you be naughty

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh I'll probably see him a Saturday

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm ehm I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm eh you've letten him get away

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

ehm ehm my mother's keep coming in to see us

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh (pause) we'll sharp get this done

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm he's as Tyneside as what I am

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no ehm (pause) you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm ehm (pause) now eh (pause) could you give me ehm the opposite of I'll be going there this week

Speaker 2:

I won't be going there this week (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm again the opposite of he's got some

Speaker 2:

he hasn't any

Speaker 1:

mm ta the opposite of he's seen that picture

Speaker 2:

he hasn't seen that picture

Speaker 1:

mm yeah eh (pause) the opposite of you're working late tonight

Speaker 2:

you're aren't working late tonight

Speaker 1:

s come again

Speaker 2:

you aren't working late tonight

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh the opposite of I gave him one

Speaker 2:

I didn't give him (pause) one

Speaker 1:

(unclear) ehm suppose eh you went up to somebody in the street to ask for a match what would you say

Speaker 2:

have you got a light please yes

Speaker 1:

mm yeah eh and could you just finish off this sentence ehm I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

today

Speaker 1:

yes ta

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