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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG16

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG16a

Age Group:

41-50

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 14

Occupation:

Cleaner

Speaker 3:

informantTLSG16b

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Speaker 1:

eh that's right ehm well just start at the beginning could you tell us eh where you were born please

Speaker 2:

where was I born in Morrison Street Gateshead

Speaker 1:

were you yes

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

and eh whereabouts else have you lived since then you know how long did you stay there

Speaker 2:

I've always lived here I lived down there until I was married

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and when I was married I moved into this (interruption) house

Speaker 1:

moved here so just the two places

Speaker 2:

just the two places

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) which did you like best you know as a place to live (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

between the two

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

oh well that's my home (laughter) down there

Speaker 1:

is it

Speaker 2:

yes this is my second home it's just (pause) mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think it's a good part of the town to live down there

Speaker 2:

well not now it was when we were j (pause) kiddies like you know children because we used to have to make our own enjoyment and that

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

did you find it a very friendly sort of place

Speaker 2:

oh yes very much is when everybody gets together

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

there was no vandalism and anything when we were kids you know

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

nothing like that

Speaker 1:

done a good few interviews down there you know

Speaker 2:

have you

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

ah

Speaker 1:

that's right

Speaker 2:

people are eh (pause) they would help each other eh neighbours in those days you know sort of poverty sort of kept us together I think

Speaker 1:

yes mm eh would you say that you were fairly attached to Gateshead as a place to live in (interruption) you know do you think you would ever leave

Speaker 2:

oh I should think yes I'm attached to Gateshead (interruption) yes definitely

Speaker 1:

aye you'd never go to Newcastle for instance (unclear)

Speaker 2:

not to live I would never go there to live no I like to go and visit but shop but not to not live

Speaker 1:

aye what about eh you know Tyneside compared to the rest of the country do you think Tyneside's a better place than (pause) you know

Speaker 2:

well personally myself I think the you see we've c advanced a lot in Gateshead eh (pause) (unclear) Gateshead council have done wonders you know in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

myself I've eh apart from here I think eh I've always liked down south if I if I wanted to move like it would have been down London (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes have you been down there on holiday

Speaker 2:

visiting yes I used to have a brother lived down there

Speaker 1:

mm yes eh do you find that eh Tynesiders are very different from people from other parts of the country you know in your experience

Speaker 2:

oh yes I think eh it's a bit of a fallacy that they're all friendly mind

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

I found that out I think this is myself because even in these places you can if you were living on your own I think you could be lonely

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

in the North East (pause) myself

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I've always found the Cockneys don't get such a grand name but I've always found them very nice people mm-hm very nice friendly people (unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh whereabouts were your parents born they were born in Gateshead as well

Speaker 2:

well I mean my mother was fetched up in Blackhill

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and my father lived in Newcastle and then he went to work at during the war at Coventry

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

that's a place I like I visit that

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

because his (unclear) he still keeps in touch with we and he's been dead for about eighteen year we still keep in touch

Speaker 1:

yes seems to be a nice place that I've never (interruption) been

Speaker 2:

oh it's nice lovely shopping centre

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

nice shopping centre

Speaker 1:

ehm what was your father's occupation what did he do

Speaker 2:

he was a general labourer

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) ehm (pause) could you tell us please eh which age group you come into on that card if you could just say the letter

Speaker 2:

which age group eh (pause) well I'm in between the two shall I say the one nearest or go on to eh the last one

Speaker 1:

(laughter) compliment yourself

Speaker 2:

compliment oh well I'll say between the forty ones and fifties you see

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh (pause) and on what basis do you occupy this house again if you could just say the letter

Speaker 2:

well it's just rented this one yes

Speaker 1:

yes mm mm ehm (pause) eh you're doing a you are working at the moment

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah whereabouts do you work

Speaker 2:

the post office

Speaker 1:

ehm where wh which one (unclear)

Speaker 2:

the telephone exchange

Speaker 1:

oh I see in (interruption) Newcastle

Speaker 2:

Newcastle Carlyle House

Speaker 1:

yeah is that what what kind of a job's that (interruption) do you enjoy it

Speaker 2:

I'm cleaning oh I like it yes uh-huh and I like it uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) what sort of ehm (pause) what sort of other jobs have you done in your life you know

Speaker 2:

shop assistant I've always been a shop assistant

Speaker 1:

have you

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

is that what you did when you first left school

Speaker 2:

ah yes I went to the shop and eh (pause) mostly from one shop to another you know not a lot of shops but eh what I did I went from one shop to another I was in the (unclear) and grocery line you know that's what I like

Speaker 1:

aye did you used to work around here (interruption) in shops

Speaker 2:

I used to work in the Co op over the road (interruption) it used to be a fruit shop I used to work over there (interruption)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) did you (interruption) oh

Speaker 2:

then eh I had to give it up for the little girl then I went into the cleaning work because it was part time you see (interruption) couple of hours in the morning and couple of hours at night

Speaker 1:

yes is it yeah is it just part time that you work now like

Speaker 2:

eh well no now I work full time but it still shifts you know I still go morning and night

Speaker 1:

yes what what time do you start

Speaker 2:

I start at six o'clock in the morning mm-hm

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

I've done a shift by dinnertime nearly

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I'm finished then I go back tonight again you see gan about four o'clock

Speaker 1:

do you

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) ehm (pause) eh (pause) eh (pause) how old were you when you left school

Speaker 2:

when I left school fourteen

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

do you think do you think you were glad to leave school at the time or not

Speaker 2:

well I wanted to (pause) but it was only just to make money it wasn't with the idea of leaving school I don't (interruption) think you know

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh

Speaker 2:

because you really wanted to help your parents and everything

Speaker 1:

yes (unclear) ehm (pause) would you say you know looking back on your on your education would you say it had been worth very much to you in your life since you left school

Speaker 2:

no not a great deal no I well I mean I I was good quite a good scholar when I left school I could have went to the grammar school but eh we couldn't afford the uniform my mother couldn't afford the uniform you see we couldn't you had to buy all your books and uh pencils in those days

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you all had to have a uniform it was compulsory in those days and eh (pause) my father wanted to send us I mean he wa because his father was well educated because my father paid to go to school because his parents were pretty well off but eh I didn't want to go I always thought they were a bit toffee nosed compared to the likes of us you know we thought they were

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I would be unhappy in them places you know

Speaker 1:

I see

Speaker 2:

through them we never bothered

Speaker 1:

I see you you so you wouldn't you wouldn't even have gone if you had (interruption) had the chance really you don't think no

Speaker 2:

yes I don't think so not even if I had had the money it was just the idea

Speaker 1:

mm eh what do you think about eh the same problem now you know I mean for kids these days do you think (interruption) they should carry on their education

Speaker 2:

oh my daughter yeah well she's she she goes to senior high but she would have passed for the grammar well my son went to the grammar school and he's in the air force now

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but ehm (pause) oh I think it's a good opportunity I wouldn't let her miss it I would eh tell her to keep take the idea away from her head that she was underneath anybody else now

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

because you're as good as anybody else

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

doesn't matter what circumstances in life you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yes

Speaker 2:

definitely I would just tell her to go anywhere as high as she could get if she had it in her I don't know whether she has you know she's a scholar bright she's good at the languages

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

she goes to senior high in August

Speaker 1:

that's right up (unclear)

Speaker 2:

eh Saltwell senior high

Speaker 1:

oh yes

Speaker 2:

it's the nearest from here I think she might have went to the Dryden if we'd moved

Speaker 1:

uh-huh

Speaker 2:

you know but eh all her friends (interruption) are going anyway

Speaker 1:

is that eh Avenue Road

Speaker 2:

Avenue Road it is Saltwell senior high

Speaker 1:

is that eh eh co educational now like is it

Speaker 2:

oh yes they all are there's no eh grammar in gate she would have went to the grammar if it had been on because eh I think she's pretty well top in her class you know

Speaker 1:

aye I knew they were like eh (pause) comprehensive like but I didn't know that they were eh boys and girls all in the same (interruption) school

Speaker 2:

oh yeah she's been eh at the school about three year they've been boys and girls about three year now comprehensive uh-huh

Speaker 1:

do you think eh do you think schools have changed very much since you were at school

Speaker 2:

oh yes definitely

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

well they're not frightened of teachers like we were (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

no aye

Speaker 1:

do you think eh that's a good thing or a (interruption) bad thing

Speaker 2:

oh I think it's a good thing myself

Speaker 1:

do you (unclear)

Speaker 2:

long as it's not carried too far I don't believe in too fami you know familiar like eh they call them by their first name teachers

Speaker 1:

do they

Speaker 2:

sometimes I don't know whether it's a good point or a bad point (interruption) you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but eh she just talks to her teachers as if she was talking to anybody

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

where we didn't dare look around

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think they were too strict like when you were in school

Speaker 2:

well a little bit too strict we used to get strapped if we turned our head you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

very strict I think sometimes it stopped you from learning if you wanted to learn it might prevent you from learning

Speaker 1:

yes yes

Speaker 2:

oh yes I think it's a good thing but I think teachers should be a bit more stricter in a (pause) the way kiddies go on these days you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

bit more stricter in the way they talk and that

Speaker 1:

yes ehm eh when you were fairly young yourself that you know when you were under twelve say you were living down in eh

Speaker 2:

Morrison Street

Speaker 1:

Morrison Street

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

did you eh did you think that was a good place to live you know from your point of view as a child then like (interruption) did you enjoy yourself

Speaker 2:

oh no not to live no I would have liked to had a better place to live (unclear) house in them days you know because there was no modern (unclear) like carpet or you know

Speaker 1:

that's true yes

Speaker 2:

but it was nice the houses but eh as my mother had a big family and it was on the flat you you know so they stayed there

Speaker 1:

yeah yes but I think I think kids sometimes don't really notice these things you know I mean you might did you not would you not say (interruption) you had a fairly good childhood

Speaker 2:

oh well I noticed because I've always been a bit on the proud side I had all brothers you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and ehm boys I don't think take any notice

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but with me being a girl I was very eh watchful and that but oh yes I used to wish I'd had a better type of house and things like that (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and it's took me twenty odd years to get myself out now and then buy what I wanted

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

to improve

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

are you you're buying a new house

Speaker 2:

yes I'm buying the well they're bought actually it's just eh I'm I'm buying it for my mother and taking my mother with us

Speaker 1:

yeah ah it's it's just (interruption) like a pair of flats is it

Speaker 2:

yes I'm going to take her downstairs and then I'm putting eh bathrooms on you know and all modernized I've tried to do a lot in here (unclear) especially (unclear) landlords because they won't do anything so eventually the job that I took I thought well I've found I'll buy flats you know (unclear) well she could have one (unclear) and they might move her too far away and it's she's getting old you know a lot for me to do

Speaker 1:

yes these ones here are coming down aren't they

Speaker 2:

no not this one here (unclear) no

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I've put a bath in and you know hot water and that myself and put fireplaces in myself and sort of hardboard and try to make it decent but that's as far as you can go with them you can't do much more (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

unless you're go get with (unclear) you know what I mean

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

I mean I've spent about two eh (pause) it's cost about two thousand pound in rent since I've come in well I've got nothing to show for it you see

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so (pause) what I spend on future'll be for my own benefit

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) oh yes ehm these are just a few questions about eh some words that you use for things could you tell us please just eh what you call each of the rooms of your house you know what your normal word is (interruption) for each room

Speaker 1:

oh well I'll dare say I'm still old fashioned now and I call that the scullery I suppose it's the kitchenette now

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that's the scullery and eh we call that the living room what you call now is the kitchen you call it a kitchen

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

the bedrooms but my sitting room I've got a sitting room yeah we could have been in there it's cooler aye and that's we call I call that the sitting room people call them the lounge these days

Speaker 1:

yes eh and eh (pause) to to get out the back door you have to lift the (pause) what do you call (interruption) that

Speaker 2:

you go through there

Speaker 1:

what do you call the what do you call the thing you have to lift to get out

Speaker 2:

oh that's eh (pause) the bolt the catch

Speaker 1:

eh well not the bolt the thing you actually lift

Speaker 2:

the turn thing on the top the catch I would call (interruption) that catch

Speaker 1:

catch do you yeah okay

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (interruption) what I call the catch (unclear) maybe

Speaker 1:

yeah (laughter)

Speaker 3:

the latch actually

Speaker 2:

aye

Speaker 1:

ehm and eh what do you call the thing you stand in front of the fire to get it going sheet of tin you stand in front of the fire

Speaker 2:

oh well I know what you call it a bleezer (laughter) generally call it the (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) eh can you tell us please just eh you know how you like to spend your spare time and that assuming you ever get any

Speaker 2:

oh jus I just like watching television and maybes going out one night a week to the club that's all

Speaker 1:

aye which club do you go to

Speaker 2:

we go to the Railway Club

Speaker 1:

yeah whereabouts is that

Speaker 2:

that's down beside Gateshead station

Speaker 1:

oh aye yes yeah is it very good

Speaker 2:

well it's you know pretty decent like eh you get good shows on sometimes you get bad shows you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) ehm what eh what sort of things do you like to watch on television you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

I like watching television oh I like to see a good film to tell you the truth

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

mm I'm not for Coronation Street I don't watch Coronation Street

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

eh I like mostly mainly watch American shows I like

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

uh-huh I like watching American eh you know mm-hm

Speaker 1:

do you eh do eh you watch it very much you know I mean is it on

Speaker 2:

oh no not eh not a great lot in fact I like to read the Evening Chronicle

Speaker 1:

aye it's you don't you don't set out

Speaker 2:

I watch it and read the Evening Chronicle at the same time

Speaker 1:

aye you don't si ehm (pause) is it usually sort of on all the time from six o'clock till eleven or or do you just (interruption) put on when you

Speaker 2:

well I like I'll tell what I put it on it goes on at quarter to six every night because I love to hear the news

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I like to hear the news (unclear) the BBC news the North East I listen to that every night from then on it's a matter of just being on

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

sometimes we watch (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

you don't particularly watch it

Speaker 2:

but eh I'm mostly reading

Speaker 1:

yes yes ehm (pause) ehm do you think like you know in the way of like recreation activities do you think there's any sort of things that you would like to have done but you've never got round to or you've never had the chance to

Speaker 2:

yes I've always wanted to go dancing and I never went dancing

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I never get round to it

Speaker 1:

like ballroom dancing (interruption) and that

Speaker 2:

yes I always wanted to go dancing

Speaker 1:

you could go and learn some places in (interruption) Gateshead

Speaker 2:

I could you know uh-huh there's one on the high street isn't there

Speaker 1:

that's right yes

Speaker 2:

I know I could go it's just I think I'm getting a bit old now

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

you know I would like it I suppose i it's always something I've wanted to do it's eh (pause) I've liked it you know

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) what do you think eh what do you think would happen if you won sort of a very large sum of money tomorrow you know if you won the pools or (interruption) something

Speaker 2:

what would I do

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

buy a beautiful house

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

a really lovely house

Speaker 1:

whereabouts

Speaker 2:

well that's something I've never decided but it wouldn't be too far away from Gateshead I'm afraid

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

it would be eh up Low Fell or just somewhere lo or round Saltwell Park that area

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

up you know up that way

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I'd like eh (pause) in fact I tried to get one up Low Fell before I bought these flats that's what I'd definitely would love a sum of money for we to buy a nice house

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

a really nice house yes it's always been my ambition a really nice house

Speaker 1:

yeah do you think it would sort of change your way of life very much you know you

Speaker 2:

not really no it would never t change me no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

I would still have the same thoughts and ideas

Speaker 1:

aye yeah (pause) eh (pause) these are just a (pause) few questions about your opinions on uh some things ehm (pause) what what do you think that parents should do when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should (interruption) control them

Speaker 2:

what parents should do I always believe that two eh parents should agree with children not one take one side and the other not you know

Speaker 1:

aye I see yes uh-huh

Speaker 2:

they should agree or if you don't agree to keep quiet till the other one's finished that's definitely one thing I do eh believe in

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I'm very strict I must say that I'm rather strict with children

Speaker 1:

(unclear) like would you smack them quite often

Speaker 2:

I don't smack them no but I do definitely shout I think it's the only thing I've got and I have (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

but she can be a good girl if if she wants to she's (unclear) I think I'm a bit frightened she gets in company you know

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

because you have to worry about these things they've more temptation than we had that's one thing I will say

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

course they get more money than we ever had she gets more for pocket money than I got for (interruption) working for a week

Speaker 1:

for your wages yes

Speaker 2:

she does

Speaker 1:

eh going on to eh something different like and this is eh a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't eh which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

which way do I vote Labour socialist mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes y you always vote the same

Speaker 2:

always

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I've never changed my views

Speaker 1:

yes eh why do you think it is that you always vote the same way you know do you eh

Speaker 2:

well that's probably could because of upbringing but eh no I definitely think that if well I tell you what my mind goes back to the the Tory days when lots of people were unemployed

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and this country never had any money but when war was declared they found millions of pounds for a war and up to then my father'd been out of work

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and on work and out of work and yet all that money was there to be got when there was a war that's something I'll always vote Labour I've seen too much eh poverty

Speaker 1:

yes aye

Speaker 2:

I had brothers who were at home you know and they served their time till they were twenty one and when they were twenty one my father was unemployed and when he went up they told him that his sons would have to keep him

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

he couldn't get any more money so my father said well my sons have never kept me and they never will keep me so they had to go away from home

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

because they wouldn't give him any money you see if they stayed at home

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so they well they were more or less finished soon as they served their time and their jobs was finished they worked for nothing for years

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and my mother struggled to put them in apprentice put them in a trade each one in a trade and they both left home and that it was the breaking up of a family

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

that was

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that was the start of the family breaking up you see

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so (pause) so that's why I would never could never vote any other way

Speaker 1:

aye do you think that ehm (pause) do you think Labour governments have sort of done (interruption) been reasonably good

Speaker 2:

I think so they try to they should never been put out in my my opinion that's my (interruption) opinion

Speaker 1:

aye you're right there

Speaker 2:

it's just a tragedy they were but mind I do believe the Tory government won't have it all their own way like they did have Conservatives

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

they'll never have it their own way like they did have

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

because people won't stand for it now

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

where they have done in their time

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

that's my opinion so

Speaker 1:

eh do you usually vote in every election you know do you vote in

Speaker 2:

every election local council government every one both of we do he's the same like in

Speaker 1:

if we could just eh if we could just eh go on to talk for a bit about eh you know what we are most interested in like that's the way you talk and that and what you think about it ehm firstly do you think that you ever change the way you speak according to you know like the person you're talking to or any other circumstances

Speaker 2:

well I might do ehm I don't really talk very Geordie suppose I say it myself you know I've never talked sort of real rough eh you know what I mean I mean we never have none of we have but I mean I suppose if anybody's talking ordinary then you're trying to talk ordinary back I wouldn't eh sort of talk slang to them you know I don't swear that I (unclear) very rare I mean I talk in (interruption)

Speaker 3:

excuse me

Speaker 1:

you don't eh you don't think that you ever talk sort of more more more localized to more local people you know if you get somebody who talks very rough and broad do you (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no I don't like it mes I don't like them talking like that I don't think I do answer them that way you see in fact the more they talk I more cringe eh really with the dialect

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

because eh I always remember it was the first time I ever went down south my brother lived down there it was when they first left home and he went down the south and he was getting married so he took us to meet her in laws his in laws I should say

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and they said eh well they do you don't think he was coming from the same place I talked English I thought me (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

that was the first time ever anybody I always thought I just talked ordinary well I've talked like this all my life I just talk that was eh just ordinary to me you know suppose I thought it was Geordie

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

the way I talked

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but they said that they could understand me and not my brother and he's been down there for about four year

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but they could with me

Speaker 1:

yeah eh so you don't really ehm you don't really like Tyneside accents (interruption) really

Speaker 2:

not really no now when I when sometimes I listen on the television it makes me cringe

Speaker 1:

does it

Speaker 2:

yes I I like Geordie songs mind I like to hear them singing (interruption) them you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I like local eh songs but I don't like the Geordie voice

Speaker 1:

yeah is ehm are there many people around who you know whose whose accent you dislike you know is there many people broad enough for you to dislike you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

very few and far between I must tell you the truth very few eh I might hear an odd eh odd rough person but very few even my mother we don't talk eh real Geordie you never hear we talk you know

Speaker 1:

what s yeah what sort of people do you think it would be I mean old people for instance do you think

Speaker 2:

that should talk like that

Speaker 1:

that would be the broadest people

Speaker 2:

well I don't know I've heard some of the young ones coming up and they're worse than the the older generation

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) yes because eh a lot of people think you know the only people who talk the really broad Tyneside are (interruption) sort of like old blokes

Speaker 2:

would be old people uh-huh no no my mother doesn't not really no eh just an odd word that eh you might get because she never had any education I mean she never went to school at all she was an orphan but eh I mean maybe odd words that she comes out with but eh some of my eh family's took it up course I never did because I used correct her that's how I know I never you see I would put her right

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you know she would say boots for shoes and you know it was always boots it was never shoes you see I would correct her I've always been the one sort of corrected them

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

so I had to keep myself you know so more or less talking properly

Speaker 1:

yeah yes

Speaker 2:

that well properly I mean as I'm talking you see

Speaker 1:

yeah yes are you ehm (pause) do you think that ehm (pause) you know the way the newsreaders talk (interruption) on on the radio like or the television do you think that's a kind of ideal way to talk you know do you think everybody should talk (interruption) like that

Speaker 2:

yes yes yes I think so there's no eh eh there's no accent or (unclear) English language I think it's best to talk like that mind I like to hear other people talking eh if I go away on a train or anything I like to hear people with their accents I think it's nice

Speaker 1:

yes I think (interruption) so

Speaker 2:

and yet I can't stand my own

Speaker 1:

yes it's funny that way (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

I can't stand it I don't know why

Speaker 3:

I've lived in (unclear)

Speaker 2:

but no I can't it must eh maybes it's just because I haven't been away long enough from it I might want to hear it if I was away a long time

Speaker 1:

aye when you say you can't stand your own do you mean do you mean that you even disapprove of the way you speak

Speaker 2:

probably yeah (pause) probably yes uh-huh sometimes I wish I had been eh (pause) eh you know sort of eh (pause) don't forget yourself you know and talk properly all the time

Speaker 1:

yeah do you ehm do you know very many people who talk you know well like the newsreaders talk personally do you know any

Speaker 2:

no well th there's two or three eh I do know people eh supervisors at work you know I mean that's (unclear) people speak like that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

but eh

Speaker 1:

and do you like to hear them talk or do you do you ever do you never

Speaker 2:

eh sometimes I've no I think it's not really the way they talk it's eh the per people themselves I like

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

it's the personality of the people

Speaker 1:

yes do you never feel that if somebody sort of talks like that they're putting it on or showing off or being (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well there is ehm (pause) there's one person who she's a supervisor and ehm everybody talks about her she'll sort of there's an accent to her when she talks you know you like that sort of talking well I don't like that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

it's a sort of a put on accent that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

it's not real now you see her husband talks (unclear) is Geordie

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and this lady always talks like that and she's always she does it though I mean I don't suppose she's putting it on and she talks like that real posh you know think she had a plum in her mouth sort of type of person she's a very nice person but I just can't stand that talk

Speaker 1:

aye yeah

Speaker 2:

not to me but ehm personally I just like a person that's just themselves I d wouldn't like you to put an accent on because you were (pause) you wanted to be eh because somebody's listening to you I mean I've just like people talking to you I wouldn't like anybody to put an accent on for the sake of putting it on

Speaker 1:

yeah yes (pause) ehm (pause) this eh (pause) might strike you as a bit of a vague sort of question but ehm what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know just by listening to his pronunciation and that

Speaker 2:

eh wha what he is like or

Speaker 1:

yes do you think you would (interruption) sort of

Speaker 2:

I think so

Speaker 1:

have guess about his job (interruption) for instance

Speaker 2:

I think so yes

Speaker 1:

the kind of job he (interruption) does

Speaker 2:

yes I think so yes

Speaker 1:

do you think you'd be able to tell like you know the difference between somebody who worked in a factory and somebody who worked in an office

Speaker 2:

well not always no I wouldn't say that because eh (interruption)

Speaker 1:

n no not not always

Speaker 2:

no not always

Speaker 1:

but do you think do you think you know do you think you would have a guess like

Speaker 2:

you sometimes gue eh when you're working with a variety of people you ha well I think I could give a good guess myself but I know lots of girls works in factories they're very nice talkers there's girls who you would expect to talk nice that don't so (pause) therefore

Speaker 1:

yes (interruption) certainly that's about it

Speaker 2:

you know a surprising thing really

Speaker 1:

yes what ehm what would you say about my accent from listening to us now

Speaker 2:

well I should think you're local (pause) aren't you

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

yes you've been fetched up very nice by somebody respectable (pause) parents (pause) I can tell that

Speaker 1:

I'll tell them

Speaker 2:

have you well you have you can tell you're the way you talk it's eh I think it's just the something in the way you're fetched up and gentle voiced people and they talk like that yeah

Speaker 1:

do you think I talk like you I mean

Speaker 2:

you talk a little bit like me but you talk even eh a little bit smoother than I talk I'm a bit rough on the edge compared with you I should think

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) mm do you think you could eh (pause) just read that list of words for us please

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back home farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after (unclear) field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book school maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

ta now eh I'm going to read out a list of words that are all sort of fairly local Tyneside words you know and I would just like to know ehm firstly if you're familiar with it you know and secondly if you actually use it yourself

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

aside for beside

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

aside for beside you know would you say it's just aside the fire

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

bairn (pause) yes bait yes ehm bonny

Speaker 2:

body

Speaker 1:

bonny

Speaker 2:

bonny oh yes

Speaker 1:

aye ehm bray (pause) to bray somebody

Speaker 2:

oh bray yes

Speaker 1:

aye yes do you use it

Speaker 2:

well I might I've said it I should think yes I've said it uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh bullets

Speaker 2:

yes well not m no I (unclear) saying that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

not normally I I hear it though yes

Speaker 1:

eh clamming

Speaker 2:

clamming

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

it's funny I used that the other night (laughter)

Speaker 1:

boody

Speaker 2:

well no but I familiar they're familiar words

Speaker 1:

ehm cree

Speaker 2:

cree

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

no that's a word I've never used

Speaker 1:

but you know what it means though

Speaker 2:

I know what it means yes pigeon cree uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh lowe

Speaker 2:

no I've never

Speaker 1:

no do you know what it means

Speaker 2:

lowe

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

no I cannot (interruption) say

Speaker 1:

a light or a flame or something a bit old fashioned

Speaker 3:

(laughter) what he means is give us a lowe

Speaker 1:

give us a lowe that's right

Speaker 2:

no I've never used that thing I've never heard that before

Speaker 3:

although I've never used it myself

Speaker 1:

you have heard it

Speaker 3:

oh yes I think eh

Speaker 2:

yes well there's he has got a different accent belongs to South Shields

Speaker 3:

eh you eh (pause) you don't hear it now you used to hear it more often in the old days you know

Speaker 1:

yes I think that's (interruption)

Speaker 3:

the street corners give us a lowe but you don't hear it now

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

there's a game evidently called Jack shine your lowe as well

Speaker 3:

aye

Speaker 2:

oh yeah uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh

Speaker 3:

(laughter) that's a funny thing though I've never heard that word for years a lowe

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh mense be more to your mense to get some work done

Speaker 2:

no I've never used that word

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 3:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh parky

Speaker 2:

yes parky yes I've used that

Speaker 1:

uh-huh eh varnigh

Speaker 2:

no not (unclear) not that one

Speaker 1:

you've heard it though

Speaker 2:

oh I've heard it yes I've heard it uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh knooled to be knooled

Speaker 2:

what did you say

Speaker 1:

knooled

Speaker 2:

well very rare I know what it means ehm (pause) I sh I would say kept down you see that's the difference I would say yes

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) now eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out eh this list of sentences and for each one I would just like to know eh if it sounds like a normal sentence to you you know if it sounds okay ehm if it sounds like the sort of thing that you might say if the circumstances arose do you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

just if it sounds okay were you wakened last night when I came in

Speaker 2:

eh that sounds all right yes

Speaker 1:

yes I mean would you

Speaker 2:

m mm

Speaker 1:

eh I was still a bed when you called this morning

Speaker 2:

oh yes I suppose I would uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm he never gave us any

Speaker 2:

never give us it huh

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

eh do you not go there very often

Speaker 2:

I would say that yes

Speaker 1:

eh they're useless them

Speaker 2:

I would say that yes

Speaker 1:

me and John went to the races on Saturday

Speaker 2:

eh I probably would I would say John and me I (interruption)

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

one thing I was always particular about someones name before my own uh-huh

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

I could say that yes

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

Speaker 2:

I would say that I think uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

it's ower big (laughter) oh I don't think I would ower big no I would say too big uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh you know my cousin that her husband died

Speaker 2:

well I could have said that uh-huh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

with the what

Speaker 1:

with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

with the wife being what

Speaker 3:

ill

Speaker 1:

being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

well I might have yes I might have said that uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

ehm I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

I could say that uh-huh

Speaker 1:

they go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

Speaker 2:

well I could say that uh-huh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

eh here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

Speaker 2:

yes I would say that

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) I think we're going to be soon for the picture

Speaker 2:

yes I would say that

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

or film I would say it depends uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh would you mind stop talking

Speaker 2:

oh yes yes I've said that

Speaker 1:

eh do you want a cup of tea making

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm ehm you know him that used to work on the railway

Speaker 2:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 1:

eh he happened a nasty accident

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh when did it happen you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) I've got money belonging him

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

Speaker 2:

oh yes I'd probably say that like

Speaker 1:

yes eh I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh it's all right for you you're used with it

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes eh we've been waiting of a bus

Speaker 2:

yes I would say that

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) I think they're going to give him the job permanent

Speaker 2:

yes I could say that

Speaker 1:

I don't bother much about the television and that

Speaker 2:

well I might say that yes sounds all right

Speaker 1:

mm yeah there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

Speaker 2:

well very rare (unclear) but I you could say that yes uh-huh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes I mean yes eh many people were there there

Speaker 2:

no I don't think I would say that

Speaker 1:

no would you say how many people

Speaker 2:

not many people there

Speaker 1:

ah yeah I see eh where did you get it at

Speaker 2:

I've said I would say that uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh never mind I'll manage but

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in no the wonder

Speaker 2:

the window

Speaker 1:

no the wonder

Speaker 3:

ah you've got to be deaf no the wonder

Speaker 1:

no the wonder

Speaker 2:

oh no the wonder no no I never say

Speaker 1:

uh-huh would you say no wonder do you

Speaker 2:

eh no I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that no I would say no wonder I think probably that's what I would say no wonder I couldn't get it to work mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) me and George is going to the town today

Speaker 2:

uh-huh that's what I would say or George and I I might say George and I yeah uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh jack didn't think much to the race

Speaker 2:

Jack didn't think much of the race

Speaker 1:

of the race uh-huh eh (pause) all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

Speaker 2:

well I might say that yes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

not seen it uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh it's far too long this

Speaker 2:

I could say that aye

Speaker 1:

yes eh how's your wife and family then

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) Joe cannot come tomorrow being as he's working late

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

what is what

Speaker 1:

what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

my husband

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

oh y it's just a saying oh that's uh-huh yes I could say that uh-huh

Speaker 1:

just light the fire on will you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh I've said that

Speaker 1:

yes ehm (pause) I'll clout yous both in a minute

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

eh

Speaker 2:

I'll smack you

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh how much have they offered we how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

I could say that yeah

Speaker 1:

aye eh pass us one of them spanners

Speaker 2:

yes mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh I've broke a plate

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes mm (pause) I come this morning but you weren't in

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) he done it all right

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh I had forgetten to buy the onions

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm he give us a pound for doing it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm we had went to the coast for the day

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) I seen Albert on Tuesday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh I'm not going to stand being tret like that

Speaker 2:

yes I would say that mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh that's what happens when you be naughty

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) I'll probably see him a Saturday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

uh-huh eh I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh you've letten him get away

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm my mother's keep coming in to see us

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh we'll sharp get this done

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) he's as Tyneside as what I am

Speaker 2:

(laughter) yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

and eh getting just a little bit more complicated eh could you eh give me the opposite of I'll be going there this week

Speaker 2:

the opposite

Speaker 1:

the opposite mm-hm

Speaker 2:

I'll be going there this week (pause) (unclear) (pause) see you at the weekend or something like that

Speaker 1:

no I was thinking more of like ehm I'll not be going there this week (interruption) or I won't go there

Speaker 3:

I will go there this week something like that

Speaker 2:

oh eh well we will be going there this week

Speaker 1:

no well I was interested really in whether you would say like I'll not be going there this week or I won't be going there this week you know I mean something something something like that you know like

Speaker 2:

I'll not be going there this week

Speaker 1:

mm yes eh eh again the opposite of he's got some

Speaker 2:

he's got to eh well he has to

Speaker 1:

yes eh the opposite of he's seen that picture

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) what would I say to that he's seen it once I would say probably

Speaker 1:

yes eh the opposite of you're working late tonight

Speaker 2:

you're not working tonight

Speaker 1:

yes ta ehm again the opposite of I gave him one

Speaker 2:

I didn't give him one

Speaker 1:

yes ta ehm suppose that you went up to somebody in the street to ask for a match what would you say

Speaker 2:

can you give us a I would say give us a light please

Speaker 1:

yes ta ehm (pause) and could you just finish off this sentence ehm (pause) I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

today

Speaker 1:

yes ta

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