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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG14

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG14

Age Group:

41-50

Gender:

Male

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 14

Occupation:

Driver

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Speaker 1:

just eh say that code number on on the tape just to eh (interruption) like (unclear)

Speaker 2:

the bottom one T L S G three two six

Speaker 1:

that's great ta ehm wey eh to start at the beginning could you tell us eh where you were born please

Speaker 2:

eh it was eh Woodbine Cottages at eh just past Ryton

Speaker 1:

yes and eh w where else have you lived since then you know how long did you stay there

Speaker 2:

eh well I was just born there and we moved to Tweedy's Buildings

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that's a place just wey just near Ryton you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

then we moved from there to Clara Vale when I was about seven

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

then I lived there till I got married like

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

when I was twenty eight

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

we've lived here about eh fourteen year I think now

Speaker 1:

yes came here when you got married like

Speaker 2:

mm-hm mm

Speaker 1:

eh what what brought you into Gateshead in fact was it eh

Speaker 2:

well it was handier for work you know well we got a house through here like and we were looking for a house round Gateshead like

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

my wife's folks lived here you know

Speaker 1:

I see yeah eh how did the two places compare you know as places to live in like which did you like the best

Speaker 2:

well eh the cu the country's quieter like eh you know but eh it's eh it's handier for work here

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

because I used to work in the country I was a market gardener like you know

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

and eh I went in the army like and that and (pause) then came out (unclear) when I came out I just went went building and that like you know

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

so I was used to the country then like

Speaker 1:

yes do you think eh the town's got very any particular advantages do you think over the country

Speaker 2:

well it has eh we're centralized you know for

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

because eh the all the wife's relations is around here you know

Speaker 1:

yes mm-hm you can keep in touch better

Speaker 2:

oh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh do you think are you fairly sort of attached to Gateshead now you know as a place (interruption) to live

Speaker 2:

I am now it's definitely improving you know all this

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

the way they are rebuilding it and that

Speaker 1:

yes it's it's pretty good (unclear) do you think you would ever like live in Newcastle you know do you think Gateshead's a better place than Newcastle to live

Speaker 2:

well I suppose if you went there you would get used to it you know just I mean I didn't I didn't actually I didn't fancy living in Gateshead

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

years ago you know I thought Gateshead's an awful place you know

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

when you saw the bottom (unclear) like you know of course they're all pulled down now

Speaker 1:

aye it's yes most of it anyway what about eh Tyneside compared with the rest of the country you know do you think you would ever move away from here or anything

Speaker 2:

not necessarily I think I like Tyneside now

Speaker 1:

yes yes

Speaker 2:

quite settled here anyway

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I don't move around the country like you know but eh just like for several days at a time for shows different parts of the country every year you know

Speaker 1:

yes do you eh do you think do you find Tynesiders are very different from people from other parts of the country you know

Speaker 2:

wey some some of the time you know it just depends (pause) it's eh hard to say (pause) it's the same anywhere in the world if you're if you're a stranger by yourself

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

they are rather shy of you you know

Speaker 1:

yes aye some people say that you know Tyneside is much more friendly

Speaker 2:

they are I think it is a bit more friendly I think when you go away though and say you go for a drink or somewhere and they hear you speak

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

they generally say something straight away hello where do you come from you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

because there's there's thousands of them down there you know

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye that's true yes eh whereabouts were your parents born were they born locally as well

Speaker 2:

eh just about eh Prudhoe way I believe

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure mind

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

they're both dead but eh (pause) I think my father was born I'm not sure if my father was born in eh Durham or eh Cumberland

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I think he is ex Cumberland like you know

Speaker 1:

mm and eh what was your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

miner

Speaker 1:

yes mm it's true of lots of people that you know sort of the people here

Speaker 2:

oh yes I was a miner I've been a miner myself just for about twelve month like

Speaker 1:

have you up up that way was it

Speaker 2:

ehm aye Bedlington

Speaker 1:

mm what was it like did you

Speaker 2:

well there's I can double up three ways you know (interruption) like I'm six foot odd you know

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah eh what eh (pause) what eh what sort of jobs have you done in your life you know can you tell us

Speaker 2:

eh well I was a market gardener

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

for about four or five year then I was in the army about three year like then eh I came out and I went in the building trade

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and when I first came out the army like then I eh (pause) I went in the colliery then I was ill for a while like you know bad till I packed that in and I've been on this job now driving for about the last seventeen or eighteen year now

Speaker 1:

mm which which job did you like best

Speaker 2:

wey I like market gardening like

Speaker 1:

yes eh who do you drive for at the moment like

Speaker 2:

eh firm in Newcastle

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

(unclear) optical manufacturers like you know

Speaker 1:

yes and do you drive around quite a bit

Speaker 2:

uh-huh well I've there's been a few I've had a few different jobs in the factory like you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

work on optical spectacles and that

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and eh we used to be optical manufacturers for all all kinds of glasswork like you know when I first started I was an inspector in eh projection television

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know I used to work projectors for projecting television projecting television onto a screen like you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

now they have television tubes and radiograms valves and all this sort of thing what we sell you know

Speaker 1:

yes aye is it eh a pretty good firm to work for

Speaker 2:

it's not bad you know I get on all right with the boss like you know well my boss anyway yeah

Speaker 1:

mm mm eh (pause) how old were you eh when you left school

Speaker 2:

fourteen

Speaker 1:

aye do you think you were glad to leave school at the time or not

Speaker 2:

ehh oh yeah I was then like you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

course it was different to what it is now you know it was just like a primary school you know

Speaker 1:

yes mm do you do you think you know looking back on your education like do you think that it has been worth very much to you in your life since you left school

Speaker 2:

not the education I had oh if I'd had i i if I'd realized now if I knew now what I knew th if I had known then what I knew now I would have eh studied more you know gone s for a higher better education I think like you know

Speaker 1:

mm do you think it's eh fairly important you know well say for kids now like

Speaker 2:

mm-hm definitely

Speaker 1:

yes you would advise any kid to stay on at school

Speaker 2:

oh yes

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and get as as good an education as possible like you know

Speaker 1:

mm mm

Speaker 2:

haven't any children myself like

Speaker 1:

no ehm ehm in in eh in what ways do you think it's changed you know since you went to school

Speaker 2:

well it's eh you've got more opportunities now for for better education you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

I think so I think anyway you know

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) do you think that ehm do you think they teach them eh useful useful stuff mostly like

Speaker 2:

oh yeah mm-hm the thing is at primary school you can't you can't at least at least when I was there you couldn't learn enough what you can learn (pause) you know to eh give yourself a proper trade you know you cannot not the eh (pause) the more eh advanced stuff like you know

Speaker 1:

aye yes it was just sort of fairly basic

Speaker 2:

mm-hm just basic stuff like you know

Speaker 1:

yeah that's true ehm (pause) eh whereabouts were you living when you were you know fairly young yourself like say when you were under twelve you know

Speaker 2:

I was at Clara Vale

Speaker 1:

yeah eh did you think it was a fairly good place to live from your point of view as a child

Speaker 2:

oh yes grand

Speaker 1:

you enjoyed your childhood (interruption) there in fact

Speaker 2:

mm-hm definitely

Speaker 1:

mm eh do you remember like any of the sort of games you used to play or things you used to get up to

Speaker 2:

oh well we used to be up on the golf courses and in the woods you know and by the river

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

all that sort of thing

Speaker 1:

what about ehm like s did you have any street games you know I mean like well in towns especially they have lots of street games (unclear)

Speaker 2:

eh well we just used to play chasey around the streets you know but problem is it it was country anyway any whichever way you went

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

there was only like five streets where I lived and couple of hundred yards over the other way and there was only three streets you know

Speaker 1:

yes mm

Speaker 2:

and that was it that was Clara Vale like

Speaker 1:

yes aye always think that you know country must be a very different sort of place for a kid like (interruption) from from what the town is

Speaker 2:

oh yeah

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) these are just eh just a few questions about what words you might use for things (interruption) you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh firstly eh what do you call each of the rooms in this house you know what's your normal word for each room

Speaker 2:

eh we just call this the front room

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

and that's the just a kitchen we call it eh top one's a bedroom

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and there's a scullery

Speaker 1:

uh-huh and what about

Speaker 2:

you can call it a kitchenette I suppose the way I say (interruption) it it's scullery like you know

Speaker 1:

call it a scullery yes what about that space over there

Speaker 2:

that's just a passage

Speaker 1:

yes yes yes eh and eh you know to get to get out of the back door you have to lift the (pause) what do you call that

Speaker 2:

the latch just the latch

Speaker 1:

yes mm-hm and eh

Speaker 2:

well it's a sneck kind of you know

Speaker 1:

sneck sometimes yes ehm (pause) and what do you call eh the thing you stand in front of the fire to get it going you know do you have a word for that

Speaker 2:

well bleezer

Speaker 1:

yes yes uh (laughter) eh (pause) eh could you tell us please just how you like to spend your spare time you know the sort of things you like to do

Speaker 2:

oh I just muck about in my yard I've got a shed built there you know I spend all down there

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

making bits of things you know (pause) then I look after all the property like you know do all my own decorating and that

Speaker 1:

yes yes you've got it very nice by the way (interruption) you know

Speaker 2:

aye it's not bad there

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (pause) you've got your fish as well what sort are them down there

Speaker 2:

they're telescopic eyed (unclear) they were they're blind eh now

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

aye they're old I thought I'd lost them but they're (laughter) they cannot see now you know you know because they have that bulge in their eyes they've getten them lost when they've been in the other tanks or through age I don't know but

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes

Speaker 2:

there's one still has one left but it they're completely blind like

Speaker 1:

aye are they aye (interruption)

Speaker 2:

so that's why I keep them separated I have a big tank but I'm just keeping them in the little one until I get the shed properly fixed up for them you know

Speaker 1:

oh I see yes aye are they (pause) fresh water fish or

Speaker 2:

mm-hm they're all fresh water fish

Speaker 1:

yes and you've got to yes but it's not eh what I meant was it's not heated like you don't have to (interruption) heat it

Speaker 2:

no oh I have tropical fish in the kitchen there

Speaker 1:

do you

Speaker 2:

I have about eh fifty or sixty in there like you know

Speaker 1:

aye grand what kinds

Speaker 2:

oh I've only got eh two kinds at the moment eh three kinds anyway guppies they're the main ones that I have

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and eh neon tetras

Speaker 1:

aye (interruption) oh they're nice them aren't they

Speaker 2:

and eh red cardinal

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I have other ones but at least I've had other ones but eh this last eighteen month I've never bothered I only had one or two other ones and eh I've gradually lost them but I've never bothered with them till I get sorted out you know if I get started on them properly again like you know

Speaker 1:

aye I see yes because they're fairly difficult to sort of keep and that aren't they

Speaker 2:

wey not they're not they're not too bad to keep like at least I've found them eh pretty easy I haven't lost I don't loss a l lot actually I've lost a few this last week or two but

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

that's all

Speaker 1:

aye my friend keeps them you know he's I think he's had a canny bit trouble with them

Speaker 2:

mm I have some little ones there now about a dozen

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I just keep every now and again when I see them swimming I get as many as I can out like you know

Speaker 1:

uh-huh

Speaker 2:

and eh I have a little tank floating in the top you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm ehm (pause) do you eh do you watch television very much you think you know I mean

Speaker 2:

oh quite regular at least eh aye quite regular

Speaker 1:

yes mm-hm

Speaker 2:

oh I like the television I like the films most of all like

Speaker 1:

aye is it mostly is the television mostly on you know say a all night you know

Speaker 2:

no generally just the weekend as a rule eh on a week eh we might watch a film of a night

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but eh

Speaker 1:

you just switch it on if you want to see (interruption) something (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm we don't switch it on and leave it I only switch it on when I want it

Speaker 1:

a lot of people do that you know it's just on all the time

Speaker 2:

oh no I don't like that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

of a weekend of a Saturday afternoon I maybe put it on about four o'clock

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

for the wrestling and we leave it on at about ten o'clock at night time you know

Speaker 1:

huh (laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

and maybes on a Sunday afternoon

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but through the week I very very rarely bother much unless there's a good film on

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

otherwise I get myself (unclear) down the yard or something you know

Speaker 1:

yes eh do you think the standard of programmes is fairly good you know

Speaker 2:

well some of them are there's eh of course different s (pause) there's a lot of eh things that don't a appeal to me very much I don't care so much for the eh variety

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and that you know and this pott singer I divn't care for that fellow I like to hear it sometime but as for watching it on television I don't care much for that you know

Speaker 1:

eh do you think that you know in the way of like recreation activities do you think there's any things that eh you'd like to have done but you've never had the chance to do or you've never got round to you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

well we have quite a bit of opportunity like but well just quite comfortable here you know we're not bothered really about going very far

Speaker 1:

you're really content with your life are you

Speaker 2:

we do go out occasionally we go up to the eh we have wor supper out on Saturday night sometimes like you know up to the eh Highwayman or

Speaker 1:

aye aye it's a canny pub

Speaker 2:

the other thing is we gan up to the eh is it the Falcon up Prudhoe way or something you know up there somewhere maybes a Saturday night or a Friday night

Speaker 1:

aye you've got no sort of like wild ambitions that you've never fulfilled

Speaker 2:

not really no not really very ambitious I don't think

Speaker 1:

(laughter) mm eh

Speaker 2:

actually it's a bit late for us to think of eh ambitions now you know if I knew if I knew if I knew lo lon long years ago what I know now I would have eh

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

probably had some different ideas you know but you unless you have somebody behind you to advise you and push you a bit I think you know you're just apt to let things slide I think

Speaker 1:

what do you think ehm what do you think would happen if you sort of won a large amount of money tomorrow you know if you won the pools or something

Speaker 2:

probably gan daft (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

well my wife my wife's working so she would retire straight away I think you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm (pause) so you think it would sort of change your way of life very much you know I mean do you think there's many things you would do that you don't do now like

Speaker 2:

eh there is I think there is quite a few things I would change like you know (pause) I'd probably gan in for a lot of these (unclear) (laughter) you know (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

course we've never had a lot of money so eh we don't really know what if we had it we would be g we would probably just get worselves worked into it you know

Speaker 1:

yes well a lot a lot of people say that eh although they would like it it wouldn't really it wouldn't change their habits very much you know they would still more or less (interruption) do the same things

Speaker 2:

well it's hard to say though

Speaker 1:

it's true n no one ever really knows

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't like to eh (laughter) I wouldn't like to say what I would do (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) mm now these are just eh a few questions about your opinions on eh some ordinary matters

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should control them

Speaker 2:

how do you think they should control them or

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

wey I don't know I haven't got any children myself you know (unclear) I could eh give my opinion at times though when eh when some of them it just depends there's a lot of them are badly behaved

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

they seem to be more cheekier now than what they were years ago it seems to be the way I don't know

Speaker 1:

do you think the eh discipline in schools is particularly you know at fault like you know

Speaker 2:

I don't know whether it's the f (unclear) of course I think now you know I think television will have a lot to do with it

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

and eh there's bingo and that now

Speaker 1:

that's true yes

Speaker 2:

you know the because you often see I seen a good programme on television about you know something I fancy and of course we sit there and we're watching it

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and I might slip down the yard for coal or something like that

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

hear the kids playing in the street they're not interested in it whatever we are you see and I think they let them get left on their own may be a lot

Speaker 1:

aye that's yeah (unclear)

Speaker 2:

that's how they get a bit headstrong

Speaker 1:

headstrong yes

Speaker 2:

they're not getting enough ten attention

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

to what they (pause) used to

Speaker 1:

aye it's true what do you think about ehm you know a young person of say sixteen do you think they should be more or less allowed to do as they want or not

Speaker 2:

well I'm not saying they should be allowed to do as they want like (pause) but then again that's (pause) it depe a lot depends on their family for the way they act I think and all you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

some of them are spoiled some of them aren't and

Speaker 1:

mm-hm do you think their parents should sort of well say control the time they come in at nights and things like that

Speaker 2:

well eh oh yes I still think they should do that about them anyway because you can get up to some funny things nowadays

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

it's rather eh (pause) eh easy society easy going society you know now it's I'm getting a bit beyond that

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

that eh (pause) (unclear) because I divn't know how they feel now you see that they divn't feel that it's not the same now as what it was twenty year ago or thirty year ago you know when I was a teenager

Speaker 1:

yes (pause) eh going on to something different like and this is eh a question you don't have to answer if you don't like because some people don't eh which way do you vote

Speaker 2:

Labour

Speaker 1:

aye have you always voted the same way

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes ehm why do you think it is you know that you always vote the same way

Speaker 2:

well I think it's a working man's eh (pause) to the working man's advantage you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

that's always been my opinion anyway I I d I'm not eh I'm not very well up on politics you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I follow it a bit like but just

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

the rudiments of it you know

Speaker 1:

do you think that the eh do you think the Labour party's you know done a reasonable amount for the working man you know I mean the last Labour government for instance is it doing all right

Speaker 2:

well I think they do better than than than the Conservative anyway for for the working man

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah yeah ehm do you usually eh you know vote in every election like in you know local government

Speaker 2:

no it's generally just in the eh as a rule it's just in the eh (pause) in the general election you know I do vote sometimes in it but there's many a time I'm not here you know

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yes

Speaker 2:

certain times of year I'm away maybes two or three days you know

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and eh I think there's only the last one I didn't vote and I was at home and eh the other ones I've generally been away you know travelling

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

generally generally vote on a Thursday I'd generally be away on the third Wednesday or Thursday and come back on the Friday and that's that's (unclear)

Speaker 1:

it's such a foregone conclusion in Gateshead isn't it

Speaker 2:

it is like but eh course if everybody le eh stopped away it would

Speaker 1:

yes I think that's what happened (interruption) in the last general election wasn't it

Speaker 2:

it'll change there was I think there's too many eh stayed away

Speaker 1:

what do you think about the eh you know the present government like do you think they're

Speaker 2:

I don't know I think they've got themselves in a bit of a hole

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I don't like eh (pause) the boss man like very much (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) not many people do

Speaker 2:

but eh

Speaker 1:

what about entry into Europe do you think do you think we should go into Europe or not

Speaker 2:

well I think it'll be good for the future it might and I mean it eh it mightn't be so good at the moment you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

probably be different but I think it'll be advantage

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

advantageous to us in the future really you know

Speaker 1:

yes that's maybe true yeah

Speaker 2:

that's at least I I just think that it would be to our advantage to be eh in latter years you know

Speaker 1:

yes eh if we could just eh go on to talk for a bit about the thing we are most interested in you know that's the way you talk and that

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh firstly do you think that you ever change the way you speak according to like the person you're talking to or circumstances

Speaker 2:

oh yes often

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

what what eh like what sort of changes do you think you make

Speaker 2:

well years you see trying to talk a bit posher you know

Speaker 1:

yes ehm who would you have to be talking to you know to to talk a bit posher like

Speaker 2:

well when I g I gan round the different shops and this sort of thing you know and eh (pause) if I'm talking to the engineers or this sort of thing television shops and that you know that's all right like but if I'm talking to the boss or something you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

trying to talk a bit better you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

when I'm at the boss's house or any of the boss's houses you know well I try to talk a bit so they can understand because there's some of them who are eh

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes what eh

Speaker 2:

different eh nationality as well you know and eh I try to talk as (pause) clearly as good English as possible like you know

Speaker 1:

aye mm-hm what eh how would you say you were talking now you know what I mean is this

Speaker 2:

it's a bit of a mixture (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye do you have do you think you are sort of more localized than this you know broader than this

Speaker 2:

oh aye I can be broader than this ehm

Speaker 1:

yes is this eh do you think this this is perhaps well the way you talk to you know your family for instance

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) aye about that

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

course when you get along among the lads you know you just let everything gan and eh it's all wey aye and wey no (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) mm

Speaker 2:

where you ganning and what have you

Speaker 1:

I think ev everybody does this you know I think everybody changes their voice

Speaker 2:

does practically everybody does it

Speaker 1:

other people deny it you know a lot of people don't seem to be aware of it like you know

Speaker 2:

oh no I know I change it eh

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

because there's a lot of people that's especially if they're say from the south and I mean there's there's a lot of the people from all over the country come up here

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and if you can generally tell as soon as they they talk to you

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

so you try to make it so they can understand you know

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah yeah eh do you think on on a fairly sort of long term basis you know you've always talked the same all during your life

Speaker 2:

more or less yeah

Speaker 1:

yes mm ehm (pause) would you say that you like to hear people talking in local accents you know Tyneside accent

Speaker 2:

well there's times it doesn't sound very nice

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know there's it's eh (pause) if you're one of these you know when they've eh been on the television there Tyne Tees

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

for the news and they're talking Geordie and it sounds funny you know

Speaker 1:

aye mm

Speaker 2:

and that's how that's how makes you think how difficult it I can be for people that aren't eh used to that

Speaker 1:

aye the these are like ehm announcers and that

Speaker 2:

that's slang you know really

Speaker 1:

aye yes yes mm

Speaker 2:

when they get Michael what's Mike Mike Neville and the other chap

Speaker 1:

George House yes they're quite funny eh do you do you ever think that you know ehm if you meet somebody for the first time and you hear him talking and he talks more or less like you you know

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

do you feel that you're more likely to get on with him you know

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) well could do like eh I divn't think it really makes much difference

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

actually w whichever way talk you more or less change your voice to talk or try to talk eh the same way as them you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

if they're not talking broad Tyneside well you try and s in case they divn't understand you you know

Speaker 1:

yes yes eh do you think you would ehm you know if if well you haven't got any children but if you like if there was a nephew or something like that do you think if if you heard them talking in a very localized sort of eh voice do you think you would correct them about it

Speaker 2:

no I don't think so na

Speaker 1:

no yeah if they said (interruption)

Speaker 2:

I have one nephew and eh he's a really broad Tynesider you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

and he has a deep voice

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

he's about eh he's just started school the other week but

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

he gans to the country with his father and his father says (unclear) he got stuck in the stream or something he says hey da howay geris oot (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

but he's now he's down south in eh Cornwall like you know last year

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

aye howay da howay geris oot

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

he's fallen in the stream or something

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah yeah it's eh it's a bit strange that because most people say that I think most people you know even if they talk very broad themselves correct their children about it like it's like smoking you know even if you smoke yourself (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

I probably would eh correct I probably would correct them if eh if I had them children of my own like you know

Speaker 1:

aye yes

Speaker 2:

but when they get out with their friends like you know it comes straight back to them

Speaker 1:

that's right

Speaker 2:

but I suppose it will get into their mind about it like you know like

Speaker 1:

yes you know eh you know the way the newsreaders talk on television like you know sort of Robert Dougal or somebody like that you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh do you think that's a particularly good way to speak you know do you do you like that sort of (pause) accent

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) I'm not sure about Robert Dougal eh say Michael Aspell

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I I rather like the way they speak a a lot of the commentators anyway you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I think it's it's eh how you can understand everything they say

Speaker 1:

aye yes do you think ehm do you think it would be a good idea if everybody talked like that

Speaker 2:

probably would be

Speaker 1:

aye you don't think you would like miss you know I mean the eh

Speaker 2:

yes you would miss the eh but eh of course on television it you know you hear them like the Scottish brogue you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

or eh say like the Liverpool it is pretty broad as well like isn't it (pause) aye you probably would miss it if eh

Speaker 1:

aye I suppose you would yeah

Speaker 2:

I've never really thought about it

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes it's just that eh you know I mean lots of people think that that way of talking is very you know very correct and and and proper and this sort of thing you know what I mean I think they feel as if everybody ought to talk like that eh this might strike you as a rather vague sort of question but eh what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know just from sort of listening to his pronunciation and that

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) wey you can get a few ideas about them like you know uh from the way they talk I suppose (pause) it just depends depends on eh their tone of voice and that you know

Speaker 1:

that's true yes

Speaker 2:

and eh and if it's (pause) eh you know you hear some of these (pause) they they they seem to talk so posh you know it sounds silly

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

it sounds a bit silly sometimes you know but

Speaker 1:

yes what what do you think you would think about somebody who talked like that you know if you actually meet somebody who talks very posh what sort of things do you think about them

Speaker 2:

well you think stuck up like you know

Speaker 1:

aye yes do you think do you think you would do you think you would assume that he was fairly upper class you know I mean or something about the sort of job (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

eh more or less you could think that eh because I think it is that type that really that have that very high toned eh type of speech you know

Speaker 1:

yes do you think do you think you would be able to tell the difference between like a Tynesider who worked in a factory and a Tynesider who worked in an office you know

Speaker 2:

well eh as a rule you can with women

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

I think you know but eh well yeah maybe men and all but it's eh (pause) you can really it just depends o on their job actually if they're if they do a lot of like interviewing or (pause) I think there there is a bit difference I think

Speaker 1:

yes I think I would be willing to guess mm what sort of accent would you say I've got you know from listening to us now

Speaker 2:

well now it just eh seems pretty good English like you know

Speaker 1:

yes yeah would you say I came from Tyneside

Speaker 2:

eh you might do it's hard to say

Speaker 1:

yeah (laughter) (unclear) you wouldn't yeah it's it's not obvious to you

Speaker 2:

eh not really obvious I hadn't taken particular notice like but eh (pause) you could be from Tyneside you know I'm not sure

Speaker 1:

yes strikes me as funny when people say that because I am like you know I am I've lived in Gateshead all my life

Speaker 2:

mm-hm you haven't eh you haven't like a London accent or a Liverpool accent anyway so you could be from here just you're you're quite well spoken you know nice eh

Speaker 1:

yeah do do you think I'm sort of less localized than you you know

Speaker 2:

possibly like course it's just a comparance really you you come over with a lot of eh like Geordie a bit you know but it just am and (laughter) (unclear) well aye you said aye that sort of thing you know

Speaker 1:

yes perhaps after I've asked the question you start to sort of you know make a different opinion

Speaker 2:

yes you said (unclear) that's the only way you can really tell you know

Speaker 1:

aye ehm (pause) can you just eh read that list of words for us please straight down

Speaker 2:

right just in good English or

Speaker 1:

just ordinary you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

ta eh now ehm I'm going to read out lists of words and for each one I would just like to know eh firstly if you familiar with it you know

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

and secondly if you use it yourself like they're all sort of Tyneside word eh aside for beside

Speaker 2:

aside aye

Speaker 1:

would you say it's just aside the fire

Speaker 2:

oh yes or just aside here

Speaker 1:

eh bairn

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

bait

Speaker 2:

bait aye

Speaker 1:

aye eh bonny

Speaker 2:

yes I use that and all

Speaker 1:

eh bray

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

bray bray

Speaker 2:

bray

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

not really much because I'm thinking about donkeys you know really

Speaker 1:

(laughter) not for 'to hit something' like

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

eh bullets

Speaker 2:

oh but I have used it bray mind you know I actually it eh slipped my mind there when I was thinking the first thing that came into my mind there was a donkey braying

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

but when you bray somebody aye

Speaker 1:

aye eh bullets

Speaker 2:

oh yeah (unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh clamming

Speaker 2:

oh aye I say clamming I'm clamming when I'm hungry

Speaker 1:

eh boody

Speaker 2:

eh very rarely

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I hardly ever use that I know somebody down the road they often use it for the little eh (pause) lassies that come into the shop hello boody (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) aye cree

Speaker 2:

occasionally mostly (unclear)

Speaker 1:

fettle

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

like to fettle something or to be in (interruption) good fettle

Speaker 2:

or what fettle you always used to say what fettle

Speaker 1:

eh gully

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh howk

Speaker 2:

aye (unclear)

Speaker 1:

eh lowe

Speaker 2:

lowe aye I use it occasionally

Speaker 1:

sometimes like give us a lowe

Speaker 2:

aye give us a lowe

Speaker 1:

there's not many people use that now like

Speaker 2:

no actually I use I never think much about that now

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

you know

Speaker 1:

I I I've met a few people who say they do use it sometimes

Speaker 2:

probably eh miner might aye give us a lowe for eh when they're working down the colliery and that you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

shine your lowe on here

Speaker 1:

that's right yes yeah eh mense it would be more to your mense to get some work done

Speaker 2:

eh not really no probably a few years ago I've never used that for years I think now

Speaker 1:

yeah eh parky

Speaker 2:

oh yeah

Speaker 1:

about your food

Speaker 2:

mm-hm parky

Speaker 1:

varnigh

Speaker 2:

what

Speaker 1:

varnigh

Speaker 2:

oh aye varnigh (unclear)

Speaker 1:

mell mell

Speaker 2:

I don't think so I cannot eh think of that now mell

Speaker 1:

aye no for a hammer

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

for a hammer

Speaker 2:

oh yes a mell wey aye (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

give us a big mell

Speaker 1:

big mell

Speaker 2:

there was some blokes using it in the yard last night the old hut down the in the coal house you use the big mell

Speaker 1:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 2:

well of course by itself you stop to think what the devil's a mell mean you know

Speaker 1:

yes (laughter) it's definitely (unclear) eh knooled to be knooled you know

Speaker 2:

knooled I don't think I've ever heard of that one a fore now

Speaker 1:

to be eh hen pecked or you know kept down like

Speaker 2:

oh aye aye hen pecked but not knooled I've never heard that a fore like I can say I've never used that word knooled

Speaker 1:

now ehm (pause) more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out eh this list of sentences and eh for each one I would just like to know if it sounds like an ordinary sentence to you you know if it sound like if it sounds like something you might say if the circumstances arose

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

if it's okay eh 'were you wakened last night when I came in' something you would say

Speaker 2:

oh I would say that aye

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm 'I was still a bed when you called this morning'

Speaker 2:

oh I would say that mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes ehm 'he never gave us any'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm I would use it

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah eh 'do you not go there very often'

Speaker 2:

aye it's okay I think

Speaker 1:

yeah eh 'they're useless them'

Speaker 2:

oh aye I still use that they're useless them

Speaker 1:

eh me and John went to the races on Saturday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'I might could manage it'

Speaker 2:

aye I've said that said that and all

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him'

Speaker 2:

aye I suppose so

Speaker 1:

mm yeah it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh you know my cousin that her husband died'

Speaker 2:

no I wouldn't that never heard that one

Speaker 1:

no aye eh 'with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her'

Speaker 2:

aye

Speaker 1:

yes eh I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

aye I could do mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh 'they go to the pictures of a Sunday'

Speaker 2:

say that again

Speaker 1:

they go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

aye it's eh

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) 'I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat'

Speaker 2:

aye it's eh well it's a regular saying like and if I didn't leave my

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes ehm these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

it's okay

Speaker 1:

yes eh here she had left her pram standing outside the shop'

Speaker 2:

here what

Speaker 1:

here she had left her pram standing outside the shop'

Speaker 2:

aye I suppose it's (pause) eh okay it's a bit hard that one

Speaker 1:

eh aye

Speaker 2:

here what was that

Speaker 1:

h here she had left her pram you know I mean if people were surprised about it like you know

Speaker 2:

oh aye aye aye here she had left her pram aye

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

aye it's all right for eh up here mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes (laughter) eh 'I think we'll be soon for the picture'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm 'would you mind stop talking'

Speaker 2:

aye I suppose you could hear that use that

Speaker 1:

yeah eh do you want a cup of tea making

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh 'you know him that used to work on the railways'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'he happened a nasty accident'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

eh 'I wanted for to talk to you about it'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

yes ehm 'when did it happen you'

Speaker 2:

no I'd put that another way

Speaker 1:

no eh 'I've got money belonging him'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh 'could you shift your head so as I can see out the back'

Speaker 2:

yeah I say that in the van (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) eh I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh 'it's all right for you you're used with it'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh 'we've been waiting of a bus'

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

'we've been waiting of a bus'

Speaker 2:

oh yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh 'I think they're going to give him the job permanent'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm 'I don't bother much about the television and that'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

'there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh 'many people were there there'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'where did you get it at'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm 'never mind I'll manage but'

Speaker 2:

yeah mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh 'never the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

never the wonder's okay 'me and George is going to the town today'

Speaker 2:

yes that's right enough I think (unclear) doesn't it bad grammar (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) it's local grammar

Speaker 2:

it is it really spoils it doesn't it yes ah it's it's right

Speaker 1:

it's all (unclear) stuff yes

Speaker 2:

it is it's what's used every day it is mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh 'Jack didn't think much to the race'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm 'all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'they've not seen it'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm 'it's far too long this'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm-hm 'how's your wife and family then'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm 'Joe cannot come tomorrow being as he's working late'

Speaker 2:

yeah that's regular now I think

Speaker 1:

mm-hm eh 'what is it he does for a living'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

'just light the fire on will you'

Speaker 2:

yes mm

Speaker 1:

eh 'I'll clout yous both in a minute'

Speaker 2:

aye (laughter) I've done that a few times

Speaker 1:

yeah eh 'how much have they offered we'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'pass us one of them spanners'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

eh I've broke a plate I'm afraid

Speaker 2:

yes that's right

Speaker 1:

mm 'I come this morning but you weren't in'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh 'he done it all right'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

eh I had forgetten to buy the onions'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm 'he give us a pound for doing it'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'we had went to the coast for the day'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'I seen Albert on Tuesday'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh 'I'm not going to stand being tret like that'

Speaker 2:

yeah I've heard that a few times

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'that's what happens when you be naughty'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm 'I'll probably see him a Saturday'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm 'you've letten him get away'

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm 'my mother's keep coming in to see us'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'we'll sharp get this done'

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'he's as Tyneside as what I am'

Speaker 2:

yeah

Speaker 1:

mm eh 'you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes'

Speaker 2:

I say that

Speaker 1:

eh and eh just getting a little bit more complicated ehm could you give us eh the opposite of 'I'll be going there this week'

Speaker 2:

you'll be going I'll be going there this week

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

the opposite

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

well I'll be coming back next week (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

oh you mean eh

Speaker 1:

I was thinking more of ehm like I'll not be going there next week

Speaker 2:

you'll not be going there next week

Speaker 1:

or I won't be going there you know

Speaker 2:

I'll not be ganning there next week

Speaker 1:

yes eh again the opposite of he's got some

Speaker 2:

he hasn't any

Speaker 1:

right ta again the opposite of he's seen that picture

Speaker 2:

he hasn't seen it

Speaker 1:

ta eh the opposite of you're working late tonight

Speaker 2:

I'll be early

Speaker 1:

(laughter) ta eh the opposite of I gave him one

Speaker 2:

I didn't I give him nowt

Speaker 1:

mm oh eh suppose that eh you went up to somebody in the street to ask for a match what would you normally say

Speaker 2:

gis a light

Speaker 1:

uh-huh and could you just finish off this sentence eh I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

the morrow

Speaker 1:

right ta

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