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Speaker 1:

interviewerTLSG10

Speaker 2:

informantTLSG10a

Age Group:

17-20

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 15

Occupation:

Sewing Machinist

Speaker 3:

informantTLSG10b

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Speaker 1:

well ehm (pause) to start at the beginning could you tell us eh first of all where you were born please

Speaker 2:

ehm along the road (laughter)

Speaker 1:

whereabouts is it

Speaker 2:

along the road

Speaker 1:

were you on this (interruption) very street

Speaker 2:

uh-huh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

and eh (pause) whereabouts else have you lived since then you know

Speaker 2:

just in here

Speaker 1:

just you've just sort of moved (interruption) along two doors then yeah

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

what eh (pause) what do you think about this area then as a place to live in and that

Speaker 2:

well it's all right really you know (pause) there's not much (pause) there's not much exciting happens like

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

there's only the youth club that's the only place you know for we to go

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

and that's really all

Speaker 1:

what about this sort of is it very neighbourly you know do you think that (interruption) people are fairly friendly (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) uh-huh (interruption) ah yes

Speaker 1:

mm mm mm ehm would you say that eh (pause) what do you feel about like Gateshead as a place to live in you know do you (pause) think you would ever fancy moving away from Gateshead

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

what eh what is there anything particular you like about it or just that

Speaker 2:

I don't know really it's just that with us being brought up here you know

Speaker 1:

yeah I suppose so mm eh (pause) so (unclear) you just see yourself sort of living on Tyneside you know for the rest of your life if it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

if it's not your choice yeah mm eh (pause) have you ever (pause) been away from Tyneside very often you know (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well (pause) just you know like on holiday

Speaker 1:

holidays

Speaker 2:

to Scotland and ehm

Speaker 1:

yeah mm

Speaker 2:

that's all really

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

just on holiday that's all

Speaker 1:

mm do you find that eh (pause) do you find Tynesiders very different from people from other parts of the country you know

Speaker 2:

well up Scotland it wasn't too bad because (pause) you know they sort of talk like us don't they

Speaker 1:

aye I suppose so

Speaker 2:

it was just really the same

Speaker 1:

yeah yes a lot of people say things like eh (pause) you know they find people here much more friendly than people (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

aye apart from that they are really

Speaker 1:

yes mm you know I get this even from people who don't come from here much it's it's the (unclear) mm ehm (pause) eh whereabouts were your parents born please

Speaker 2:

ehm my mam was born along Sunderland Road

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

my dad my dad was born down Gateshead

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

just you know just round here still

Speaker 1:

yeah yes and eh (pause) ehm what was your father's oh well what is your father's occupation

Speaker 2:

ehm he's off work now he's (pause) been off work for quite a while with his back (pause) he was a labourer

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

he is

Speaker 1:

who does he work for

Speaker 2:

he doesn't work for nobody at the moment

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

with him being off he's been off over a year now

Speaker 1:

yeah (unclear) (pause) yeah and eh (pause) just eh sort of completing the facts eh how old are you at the moment

Speaker 2:

seventeen

Speaker 1:

yeah mm and eh (pause) and this is a council house right

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm mm mm ehm (pause) now eh (pause) if you eh eh are you working at the moment

Speaker 2:

uh-huh tra- trading estate

Speaker 1:

where

Speaker 2:

Alexandra's (pause) they make (interruption) suits

Speaker 1:

now that's the gown eh place

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes oh right

Speaker 2:

I've only worked there a year like (pause) used to work in a shop at the top (pause) Brough's (interruption) Self Service

Speaker 1:

yes yes mm what eh (pause) how did the two jobs compare like which one did you like best

Speaker 2:

the shop because you meet more people in the shop

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

and it's more friendly really (pause) you know

Speaker 1:

yeah what

Speaker 2:

because the factory people you know like mostly stick to theirselves

Speaker 1:

do they

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

oh

Speaker 2:

you know like if they come from one area they usually stay together

Speaker 1:

oh I see aye right yes

Speaker 2:

but the shop like with (unclear) there's only a few of you you all mix in

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yes

Speaker 2:

and you're mixing with customers

Speaker 1:

that's true yeah (pause) yes the that's qu- it's n- they employ nearly all women there don't they I mean that's

Speaker 2:

mm at Alexandra's?

Speaker 1:

at the factory yes yes

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

because like I was working (pause) quite near there last summer you know and I always used to see g- qu- (pause) hoards and hoards of women outside down there at tea breaks and that

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm what about eh (pause) is the money very much better there

Speaker 2:

the money's better (interruption) uh-huh

Speaker 1:

in the factory mm

Speaker 2:

but (pause) I'd rather go back to the shop (unclear) really you know

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) what about eh the job itself in the factory you know what kind of eh thing do you do

Speaker 2:

well I'm on the machines and on the press (pause) depends how much work we've got (pause) you know like

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

if there's a lot of work on the machine I'll go on the machine and if there's

Speaker 1:

what is yeah is that like stitching up (interruption) and stuff like that

Speaker 2:

sewing (pause) sewing up the sleeves uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and if there's a lot on the press I'll go on the press depends

Speaker 1:

mm yes mm mm mm (pause) eh would you and do would you say you were fairly (pause) eh settled in your present job you know or would you think you'd

Speaker 2:

oh I'd like a change really (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm mm eh (pause) how old were you when you left school

Speaker 2:

fifteen

Speaker 1:

mm eh do you think you were glad to leave school at the time then

Speaker 2:

not really (pause) wanted to stay on but (pause) all my friends were leaving you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

so I just left with them

Speaker 1:

oh yes it's a pity that like course eh did you get the impression that ehm (pause) that staying on at school wasn't a sort of popular thing to do you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah I see mm did you did you used to enjoy school (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh it was good

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

used to go to (laughter) Hill Head and then to Saltwell senior high school it's a comprehensive it was a boy's grammar school

Speaker 1:

yes is that the one on eh on (unclear) road there

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) mm is eh what's what what's the what's the case now does Hill Head not take (interruption) all the kids from here right up to fifteen (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Hill Head's (interruption) no they just take them up to thirteen no fourteen and then have to go to Alexandra Road

Speaker 1:

oh yes must be a bit of a ehm you know bit awkward for people like that changing (interruption) after their last year

Speaker 2:

(unclear) it is really stupid in a way because you have to like get uniform for your other school and you're only there for a year

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) mm yes (unclear) right difficulty with people who are sort of (pause) get sick with their last year at school you know (interruption) and they get sort of

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm now (pause) would you say that you know ehm (pause) eh (pause) you haven't got much to look back over of course but looking back on your education you know would you say that since you left school (pause) it had been worth very much to you like you know (unclear) for instance

Speaker 2:

well it was when I was at the shop

Speaker 1:

yes mm

Speaker 2:

was (pause) (unclear) shop you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

mm and like pronouncing it right to the customers you know (pause) that's all but it's no (unclear) really

Speaker 1:

(unclear) mm what about ehm (pause) you know outside work like just in your ordinary life do you ever (pause) do you ever feel that it's been important to you you know just for yourself like but

Speaker 2:

never really think about it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

no more or less put it all behind you do you think

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh (pause) do you think that eh (pause) do you think it's on the whole a good idea you know for ehm (pause) for kids to stay on at school if they can I mean (unclear)

Speaker 2:

well it really depends on what they want to be you know

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

if they want to be like (pause) something like (pause) something good it depends (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm yes you would th- you would think that it eh you know that if they wanted to stay on it would have to be specifically for some sort of job that they wanted to do (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

mm-hm that's what they usually stay on for that's all

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah eh

Speaker 2:

usually if they want to be a nurse they stay on for qualifications

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

and that's all

Speaker 1:

when you left school did you have sort of did you have a very clear idea of what sort of job you would do when mm

Speaker 2:

oh I wanted to go in a shop

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

well first I wanted to be a nanny

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but my mam says I was a bit young to leave home you know to go to

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

you hear some people going away and not v- having very good homes you know when they're there (pause) so I just went to the shop

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) mm (pause) ehm (pause) eh you you've you've lived here all your life haven't you in fact (interruption) you've

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

so (pause) mm-hm

Speaker 3:

oops

Speaker 1:

thanks very much

Speaker 3:

do you want one

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) what eh (pause) you know if you could sort of cast your mind back to when you were say fairly young say under twelve year old between five and twelve ehm do you think this was a fairly good area to live in from your point of view as a (pause) a a child there you know did (interruption) did you enjoy your childhood yeah

Speaker 2:

uh-huh uh-huh it was good

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) can you remember any of the (pause) sort of things you used to do you know games you used to play or (pause) eh

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

eh (pause) we just usually go to the park or to the library dep- depends

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

or to go to the woods we used to go to the woods

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know to where there's a stream at Washingwell Woods

Speaker 1:

yes yeah it's quite a popular place isn't it for

Speaker 2:

we used to go there along the (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah what about like ehm you know children's eh street games did you play very many of them

Speaker 2:

mm uh-huh not when I used to live along there never because there's hardly any kids you know to play with (pause) just since I come here (pause) we used to play like hidey or (pause) relievo

Speaker 1:

mm-hm mm mm you know can you remember (pause) you know we're sort of fairly interested in the words that people used for various things can you remember ehm (pause) what you used to call (pause) just like a game where one of the kids had to chase the others to try to touch them

Speaker 2:

sticky toffee (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) yes probably but I was just the the very simplest form of the game you know where you touch somebody and

Speaker 2:

tuggy

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah that's what I used to call it eh and what did you used to say about the one who had to chase the others you know the one who had to chase the others you know the one whose turn it was to chase

Speaker 2:

mm (pause) just the same tuggy

Speaker 1:

but (pause) well did you used to say that that somebody was on you know what

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes you did yeah and eh (pause) what did you used to say ehm (pause) when you wanted to call a halt in the game for some reason you know if you wanted to like eh

Speaker 2:

we just used to say

Speaker 1:

did you just cross your fingers

Speaker 2:

we change wor games (laughter)

Speaker 1:

aye eh no I was thinking of like a special (interruption) truce word you know if you want to if you want the thing (unclear) used to cross your fingers (interruption)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) oh right (interruption) oh I would just say eh (pause) skinchers

Speaker 1:

and say

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes mm and eh (pause) what did you used to call (pause) you know the things that little lads flick along the ground

Speaker 2:

marbles

Speaker 1:

right did you not have another word for them

Speaker 2:

liggies was it liggies

Speaker 1:

yes mm

Speaker 2:

liggies uh-huh

Speaker 1:

that's what we used to call them as well

Speaker 2:

used to play hidey as well

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh (pause) still on the ehm idea of sort of what words you use for things ehm what do you call each of the rooms in this house you know what's your normal word for each room

Speaker 2:

well we usually call this the kitchen

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and the other place the back kitchen

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and the scullery

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah

Speaker 2:

and then the passage way upstairs the landing

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and the bathroom and toilet round bedrooms

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) and eh what do you call ehm (pause) your back door's probably different you know but to get out like an old fashioned back door you know you have to lift the

Speaker 2:

sneck up

Speaker 1:

yes right aye eh

Speaker 2:

in the wash house we've got (unclear) and the coal house

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and wor arch

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

we've got

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) and what do you call eh (pause) I don't know if you've got one of these the thing you stand in front of the fire to get it going

Speaker 2:

one them what you blow one of them things

Speaker 1:

no I mean the like a sheet of tin that (interruption) that you put in front of the fi-

Speaker 2:

like a bleezer

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) eh could you tell us please just ehm (pause) you know how you like to spend your spare time and that you know your evenings and weekends and that

Speaker 2:

well (pause) with the weekends we usually go down to the coast (pause) for a night you know like

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

go down about half past six or something get down there half past se-

Speaker 1:

yes

Speaker 2:

seven (pause) just usually go there on a night time we just usually go to a friend's and listen to records

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

or go to bus (pause) get a bus ride somewhere

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

it depends how much money we've got (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

or (pause) if there's any Newcastle football matches on we usually go there

Speaker 1:

aye you go to watch the match then mm fairly regularly during the season

Speaker 2:

uh-huh eh well everyday well every match we usually go to

Speaker 1:

oh (pause) yeah

Speaker 2:

but my my friends that work (pause) eh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I used to work with in the shop I still knock round with them but they work on a Saturday so they can't come

Speaker 1:

yes that's true

Speaker 2:

but on Wednesday night we usually go (pause) you know

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

but a friend at work ehm we're in the supporters club Newcastle's

Speaker 1:

mm-hm

Speaker 2:

and we usually go away cheaper

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

last season ehm (pause) oh it was only two pounds to go down to London

Speaker 1:

yeah cheap that

Speaker 2:

to Arsenal's match

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and it works out really cheaper in the supporters club

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I think it's five shilling now to join

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

and that's with (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

(unclear) yeah it's quite a big eh (pause) canny incentive (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

(unclear) football matches mm whereabouts what sort of places do you go to down the coast you know is it

Speaker 2:

eh just Whitley Bay you know usually the Spanish City

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

on the shows

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) do you think that ehm (pause) you know in in the way of like recreational activities ehm do you think that there's any things that eh (pause) you would sort of like to have done that you've never got round to or you've never had the chance to do you know

Speaker 2:

mm eh don't know not really I (pause) I've really sort of done everything

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

I'd like to go abroad like but we're thinking about going next year my three f- friends

Speaker 1:

aye aye

Speaker 2:

that's all really

Speaker 1:

where to have you got any ideas

Speaker 2:

don't know yet haven't suggested it (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm but (pause) would you say you were fairly sort of eh you know contented with your life as it is at the minute (interruption) and not really yeah okay

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

what do you think would happen if ehm (pause) you know if you won a very large sum of money tomorrow like if you won the pools or something like that

Speaker 2:

oh (unclear) (pause) don't know really (laughter)

Speaker 1:

do you think it would change your (pause) way of life very much and that you know

Speaker 2:

I don't think so

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

I would just buy a car that's all (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yes

Speaker 2:

save bus fares (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

and that's all aye

Speaker 1:

strangely enough most people say that you know that they don't you know they don't think it would change the the sort of things they do very much at all you know they would still (pause) do you think you would buy a a a new house (pause) no

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) eh do you eh watch television very much you know

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

well (pause) when (pause) well I'm (pause) on Monday night I stay in

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and tonight I stay in (pause) and that's all I watch it you know (pause) well I baby sit like tomorrow night and go out on weekends

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

that's all I watch

Speaker 1:

yeah what eh (pause) what kind of things do you like to watch you know

Speaker 2:

well eh I like to watch the wrestling and cowboys uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

and I used to like Alias Smith And Jones on BBC Two Monday night

Speaker 1:

yeah I like them yeah I don't really know television programmes because I haven't got one (laughter) (pause) too poor (pause) eh (pause) these are just ehm (pause) a few questions about your opinions on some you know ordinary matters like eh (pause) what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should (interruption) (pause) check them

Speaker 2:

oh ehm (pause) oh well it depends on the parents really you know well I don't know it depends if they've done something seriously wrong you know

Speaker 1:

aye do you think they should ehm (pause) if it was something serious do you think they should hit them

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (pause) well (pause) not really hit them you know like keep them in or something for so long

Speaker 1:

aye yes (pause) mm and what about (pause) what about say some person of say sixteen or so do you think they should be more or less allowed to do as they want or not

Speaker 2:

not really (pause) I well I wasn't really stopped for doing anything but

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

you know I couldn't really do everything I wanted (pause) you know

Speaker 1:

mm (laughter) yes it's a subtle sort of situation to mm mm (pause) eh (pause) this is eh going on to something different it's a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because eh some people don't eh (pause) which way do you vote have you voted yet you you d-

Speaker 2:

no I haven't voted

Speaker 1:

have you not

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

you had one chan- you had one chance to vote didn't you in the last (interruption) local government election

Speaker 2:

yes (pause) last mm-hm (pause) but I think I was bad then and I couldn't

Speaker 1:

mm mm which way do you think that you will vote I mean (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

for Labour (pause) yeah

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) and do you think it'll be I mean do you think you'll always vote the same way you know it's it's not really

Speaker 2:

mm (pause) well with this government in I think I will because it's all con- (pause) everything goes up

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

except for your wages (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm mm

Speaker 2:

I think I'd vote for Labour

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) ehm (pause) do you think you would vote mainly for (pause) eh (pause) you know the party who you think's going to do like the best job

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

or do you think yes (pause) yeah do you think it's it ehm you don't have sort of any particular great sort of belief in the Labour party for instance or

Speaker 2:

well (pause) I don't really

Speaker 1:

right

Speaker 2:

but I just think you know if they want to do the best

Speaker 1:

aye you don't what do you what do you think about you know a lot of people well a lot of people that I talk to for instance say that eh (pause) you know they vote say they vote Labour because they're (pause) working class sort of folks or they vote Conservative because they own their own house and this sort of thing you know do you think this is a (pause) sensible way to vote you know or d- (interruption)

Speaker 2:

not really I don't think

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) do you think you eh (pause) do you think you would usually (pause) like bother to vote you know (interruption) on- (pause) on all occasions

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

I mean you would use your vote fairly (pause) consistently mm mm (pause) eh if we could just eh (pause) go on to talk for a bit about ehm (pause) the thing we're most interested in like you know that's the way you talk and that and what you think about it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) firstly do you think that ehm (pause) do you think you ever change the way you talk according to (pause) you know like the person you're talking to or any other (interruption) circumstances

Speaker 2:

not really (pause) well (pause) not really I don't think so

Speaker 1:

mm (pause) ehm do you think the way you're talking now is (pause) ehm you know the same as the way you talk to (pause) like your friends

Speaker 2:

oh yes

Speaker 1:

when you're at the football match

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah more or less the same

Speaker 2:

sometimes you say aye (laughter)

Speaker 1:

uh-huh yes

Speaker 2:

and I divn't know (laughter)

Speaker 1:

mm yes yes

Speaker 2:

that's all

Speaker 1:

I yeah I wondered whether you know ehm (pause) whether you might have much more (pause) eh broad sort of way of talking for

Speaker 2:

I have (laughter)

Speaker 1:

for yeah yeah I wondered eh I thought that might be eh (pause) and what about do you think you do you think this is the way you talk to well say your family for instance

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah uh-huh yeah ehm (pause) would you say that eh (pause) you know on a fairly long term basis you had talked more or less the same all during your life you know

Speaker 2:

ah I have

Speaker 1:

the same now as what you did (interruption) when you were young

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah mm ehm (pause) eh (pause) do you on the whole like to hear people talking in local accents you know do you like Tyneside accent

Speaker 2:

well you get a laugh at some of them

Speaker 1:

mm yes that's true but

Speaker 2:

never really bothered with them

Speaker 1:

yeah

Speaker 2:

I've never really thought about it and

Speaker 1:

yeah you never you never think (pause) well do you ever think eh you know that you disapprove of somebody's accent because it's very broad or something like that

Speaker 2:

not really I've never really thought about it really

Speaker 1:

no aye do you think that (pause) well let's say do you think that teachers in schools ought to correct the kids about the way they talk

Speaker 2:

ah (pause) I think it depends really you know depends on what the parents think first I think (pause) if the parents want them to talk mm properly (pause) it's up to them

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yeah well you're I think that you know home has much more is a bigger influence than school like you know but eh did did you find that when when you were at school did did your teachers sort of emphasize this very much you know did they try to (pause) make you talk in a particular way

Speaker 2:

well not really you know

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

well it at Saltwell senior high school they did

Speaker 1:

mm-hm and I mean they used to pull you up for like bad grammar and things like that

Speaker 2:

uh-huh not just at that school not anywhere else

Speaker 1:

aye not at Hill Heads

Speaker 2:

(interruption) no

Speaker 1:

no mm yeah (pause) what do you think of ehm you know the ways eh the news readers talk on television when they read the news you know what do you think about that way of speaking you know how do you react to that

Speaker 2:

well it's all right you know

Speaker 1:

aye

Speaker 2:

never really thought about it

Speaker 1:

(laughter) you don't eh (pause) do you know anybody personally who talks very like that

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no (pause) I think they're they're pretty rare do you think (pause) if you met somebody you know who who was who talked like sort of I mean Robert Dougal or one of these BBC blokes do you think eh do you think that you would think that he was very snobbish or (pause) mm

Speaker 2:

well not really (pause) well in a way I would eh uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah mm (pause) ehm (pause) a lot of people you know ehm well in in s- in some kinds of schools think that (pause) think that that way of talking you know the BBC way of talking is is the way everybody ought to talk you know and that everybody should do you think it would be a good idea if everybody talked like that

Speaker 2:

not really I don't think

Speaker 1:

mm mm would you miss sort of (pause) local accents you know if eh

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah mm ehm (pause) eh do you think that eh you know most of the people that you're (pause) friendly with and so on do you find that they talk the same as you on the whole

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

mm do you think that ehm (pause) do you think that if you meet somebody you know eh for the first time let's say and they talk mm and they do talk like you you know do you think that you're more likely to get on with them you know you feel

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (pause) you do (pause) just

Speaker 1:

aye aye mm mm mm eh (pause) this eh this might strike you as a rather vague sort of question like but eh (pause) what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know just (pause) like just by listening to his pronunciation and that like

Speaker 2:

eh divn't I divn't know really

Speaker 1:

very much or

Speaker 2:

not really

Speaker 1:

I mean (pause) eh (pause) to take a particular example what would you think about (pause) eh what would you think about my accent from listening to it now

Speaker 2:

no (pause) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

eh

Speaker 2:

I don't know that

Speaker 1:

yeah I mean (pause) like would you say I came from Tyneside

Speaker 2:

not really no

Speaker 1:

no

Speaker 2:

no mm

Speaker 1:

mm (unclear) you're wrong (laughter)

Speaker 2:

do you

Speaker 1:

mm eh yeah it disturbs me when people say that because I I come from you know I come from Gateshead in fact (interruption) mm yeah

Speaker 2:

do you

Speaker 1:

yeah but do you I mean do you think it's very different from yours you know do you think I talk very different from you

Speaker 2:

not really

Speaker 1:

mm

Speaker 2:

no not a lot (pause) you talk a little bit but not much you know

Speaker 1:

mm yes I would have thought the same like you know (unclear) eh (pause) ehm do you think you could eh (pause) just read that list of words for us please straight down

Speaker 2:

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution isn't it

Speaker 1:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry what's that condemn tissue with film

Speaker 1:

ta eh ehm now eh I'm going to read out a list of words and eh for each one I would just like to know you know they're all sort of fairly local Tyneside words and I would just like to know firstly if you're familiar with it you know and ehm secondly if you'd actually use it yourself ehm (pause) aside for 'beside' you say 'it's just aside the fire' like

Speaker 2:

mm-hm well that's the way I say it (laughter) uh-huh aside the

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) bairn little bairn yeah ehm bait

Speaker 2:

bait we say

Speaker 1:

aye eh bonny

Speaker 2:

huh

Speaker 1:

bonny

Speaker 2:

we (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes you say eh bray

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no you don't talk about braying somebody (unclear)

Speaker 2:

oh yes I do

Speaker 1:

yes yeah

Speaker 2:

bray uh-huh

Speaker 1:

bullets

Speaker 2:

sweets uh-huh

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yes eh clamming

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes boody

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no do you do you know what it means are you like familiar with it

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no (pause) probably shows something about your age (laughter) you know it's like did you not play with that when you were little broken china and that boody (unclear)

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

must be going out of fashion (pause) eh (pause) c- coin

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

coin a corner aye yeah that's cree

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no for a pigeon cree no (pause) eh fettle

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no not like to fettle something

Speaker 2:

well sometimes uh-huh sometimes

Speaker 1:

mm-hm yes (pause) eh gully

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no do you know what it means

Speaker 2:

I've heard of it but I don't know what it means

Speaker 1:

like a bread knife or something yeah ehm

Speaker 2:

some people says they're going to use that (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes yeah (pause) eh howk

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) mense

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

mense do you say 'it would be more to your mense to get some work done' you never

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

have you ever heard it

Speaker 2:

no (laughter)

Speaker 1:

no eh parky

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

about your food (interruption) and that

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) eh varnigh

Speaker 2:

never heard of it

Speaker 1:

have you not it's another old fashioned sort of word for 'very nearly' you know varnigh missed the bus' ehm (pause) what about eh 'to be knooled' mm

Speaker 2:

never heard of it

Speaker 1:

have you not no to be eh hen pecked you know eh like a husband can knool his wife or vice versa you know eh now eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out ehm this list of sentences and for each one I would just like to know ehm you know if it sounds like a fairly normal sort of sentence to you you know if it sounds like eh (pause) if it sounds like the kind of thing that you might say if the circumstances arose you know what I mean

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm (pause) were you wakened last night when I came in

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes yeah I ehm I was still a bed when you called this morning

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah eh he never gave us any

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) do you not go there very often

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm they're useless them

Speaker 2:

yes (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yeah yes (laughter) ehm me and John went to the races on Saturday

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) I might could manage it

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh it's ower big to get through there

Speaker 2:

uh-huh (laughter)

Speaker 1:

yes yeah eh you know my cousin that her husband died

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (unclear)

Speaker 1:

yes it wouldn't crop up for you would it what about ehm eh (pause) with it being such a sunny day we'll go to the park (interruption) something like that (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

Speaker 2:

(unclear) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

if you had a s- yeah (laughter) if you had a son who was old enough (pause) mm (pause) they go to the pictures of a Sunday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm (pause) no not really

Speaker 1:

no you'd say on a Sunday something like that ehm (pause) excuse me (pause) eh (pause) I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

no (pause) eh these ones are pretty big to them others

Speaker 2:

mm-hm uh-huh

Speaker 1:

so it's eh (pause) here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

Speaker 2:

not really

Speaker 1:

no you don't say like 'here she had done this' no eh (pause) I think we're going to be soon for the picture

Speaker 2:

(unclear)

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm would you mind stop talking

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh do you want a cup of tea making (unclear) (pause) yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm you know him that used to work on the railways

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh he happened a nasty accident (pause) no

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

eh I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

pardon

Speaker 1:

I wanted for to talk to you about it

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh when did it happen to you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh I've got money belonging him

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh it's all right for you you're used with it

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yes eh we've been waiting of a bus

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

mm I think they're going to give him the job permanent

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) I don't bother much about the television and that

Speaker 2:

well I do (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) yeah

Speaker 2:

yes uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah mm mm there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh (pause) many people were there there

Speaker 2:

what

Speaker 1:

many people were there there

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh (pause) where did you get it at

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes ne- never mind I'll manage but

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) never the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

say never the wonder yeah

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

ehm me and George is going to the town today

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh Jack didn't think much to the race

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no eh (pause) all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

yeah eh they'd not seen it

Speaker 2:

what

Speaker 1:

they'd not seen it no w- eh what do you think you would prefer do you know

Speaker 2:

didn't see it

Speaker 1:

aye yes eh it's far too long this

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (pause) how's your wife and family then

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) Joe cannot come tomorrow being as he's working late

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) what is it he does for a living

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yeah eh just light the fire on will you

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh I'll clout yous both in a minute

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

huh

Speaker 1:

how much have they offered we

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

pass us one of them spanners

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

I've broke a plate I'm afraid

Speaker 2:

no

Speaker 1:

no what

Speaker 2:

just broken (unclear)

Speaker 1:

broken mm eh I come this morning but you weren't in

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

eh he done it all right

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

eh I had forgetten to buy the onions

Speaker 2:

oh

Speaker 1:

yes eh he give

Speaker 2:

I sometimes say (unclear)

Speaker 1:

aye yes but you could say forgetten you think

Speaker 2:

aye

Speaker 1:

he give us a pound for doing it

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah we had went to the coast for the day

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) I seen Albert on Tuesday

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

mm eh (pause) I'm not going to stand being tret like that

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yes eh (pause) that's what happens when you be naughty

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

I'll probably seeing her Saturday

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah (pause) eh (pause) I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

Speaker 2:

mm

Speaker 1:

yeah ehm (interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 3:

are you (pause) finished

Speaker 1:

yeah ta ehm (pause) you've letten him get away

Speaker 2:

uh-huh

Speaker 1:

yes ehm my mother's keep coming in to see us

Speaker 2:

yes

Speaker 1:

we'll sharp get this done

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

mm he's as Tyneside as what I am

Speaker 2:

mm-hm

Speaker 1:

yeah eh (pause) you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

Speaker 2:

sometimes

Speaker 1:

sometimes okay eh and eh getting just a little bit more complicated eh do you think you could could give me eh the opposite of eh 'I'll be going there this week' does that make sense

Speaker 2:

mm (unclear) (laughter) (pause) (unclear) ask you

Speaker 1:

what eh well no I was thinking more of like ehm 'I'll not be going there this week' or 'I won't be going there this week' you know what I mean eh how about the opposite of 'he's got some'

Speaker 2:

I haven't got none

Speaker 1:

ta good eh again the opposite of 'he's seen that picture'

Speaker 2:

saw that picture no I haven't seen that picture

Speaker 1:

yeah ta (pause) the opposite of 'you're working late tonight'

Speaker 2:

I finished (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

and again the opposite of 'I gave him one'

Speaker 2:

ehm (pause) never given us any

Speaker 1:

okay ta ehm suppose you went up to somebody in the street and asked for a match what would you s- say

Speaker 2:

have you got a light

Speaker 1:

yes (unclear) (pause) and could you just sort of finish off this sentence eh I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

Speaker 2:

do it tomorrow

Speaker 1:

yes ta

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