Archive Interview: TLSG05
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Speaker 1: | interviewerTLSG05 |
Speaker 2: | informantTLSG05 |
Age Group: | 21-30 |
Gender: | Female |
Residence: | Tyneside - Gateshead |
Education: | Left school at 15; subsequent nursery nurse training |
Occupation: | Housewife (previously Nursery Nurse) |
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Interview Transcript
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T L S stroke nine two seven |
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thanks eh (pause) eh to start at the beginning could you tell us eh whereabouts you were born please |
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I was born in Princess Mary maternity hospital and then I lived in Springwell |
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yes |
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which is about five mile |
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yes eh is that ehm Springwell (interruption) eh not the estate but the |
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village no Springwell village which was about a mile down from the estate |
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that's right yes |
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just past the colliery |
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yes an important distinction in fact (laughter) |
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oh yes (laughter) definitely |
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(laughter) eh and eh |
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well I lived in Springwell for oh twenty one years and then we've lived here seven years |
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yes (unclear) |
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moved to Lobley Hill yes they're the only places I've lived |
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Springwell I like the village atmosphere you know |
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yes |
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I don't like the town at all much prefer a village |
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yes i it's there's |
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definitely even this you know in the suburbs of Gateshead there's a big difference |
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yes |
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here to what there is compared to Springwell |
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yes a lot of people feel that this is in the country compared with Gateshead I think |
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well it is you know there are fields around but a lot of the people are town people that live here |
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yeah |
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and you can't you really can't get to know them at all whereas in Springwell as a village everybody knows |
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everybody knows everybody mm |
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you can walk up the street you know and you know everybody but here you just really you can't get to know anybody |
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aye I see yes that's how long how long did you say you've lived here |
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seven years |
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seven years mm |
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course I worked for six of those seven years |
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I see yes yeah |
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but really you know I worked in a school and I got all the school holidays |
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yes |
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but you just can't |
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but you still didn't |
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no |
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aye what eh what do you feel about living in you know ehm well Gateshead as compared with Newcastle for instance do you have any attachments to Gateshead or do you (pause) (interruption) just as soon |
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no not really no the re the only |
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(laughter) |
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so of course we had the choice of you know living on this side of the Tyne and Lobley Hill was near the town so we just chose here |
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aye I see yeah yes it does seem |
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mm-hm now I worked in Gosforth oh for the last eight years and it didn't bother me I rather like Gosforth as an area but he just won't cross that Tyne to live (unclear) |
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eh and what about ehm other parts of the country would you be fairly happy |
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yes I would I I wouldn't mind at all providing it was a nice area |
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mm-hm |
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that we went into |
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yes you've no sentimental attachments to the area |
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none at all no |
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or even practical ones like friends or |
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no well I mean you know I think you can make friends anywhere |
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just yes |
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yes ehm do you think that eh Tynesiders are very different from people from other parts of the country from your experience |
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I would think they were slightly friendlier |
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mm |
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or nosier (laughter) |
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(laughter) |
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that could be the word |
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mm |
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and you're not accepted into the community whereas here people seem to be too nosy about what we call foreigners you know southerners'll come and you ask them you know where did you live and what did you do etcetera you know |
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yes eh you've never have you ever actually lived in other parts of the country for very long periods |
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no (interruption) no |
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just holidays and stuff |
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yes |
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eh just to finish off getting the facts eh whereabouts were your parents born please |
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mm |
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I can't tell you the exact (interruption) places you know |
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but they were Tynesiders (interruption) were they |
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oh yes definitely Tynesiders and my grandparents |
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yes |
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all all Tynesiders |
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eh B |
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B ta and on what basis you occupy this house again if you just say the letter |
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A |
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thanks ehm it's just in case people are touchy about |
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(unclear) |
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eh is eh your husband from Tyneside |
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y he's (interruption) Wearside |
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oh from Chester le Street you said (interruption) that's right yes |
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Wear Wear |
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(laughter) silly old me ehm (pause) eh you aren't working at the moment |
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no definitely (interruption) not |
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I was a school clerk when I first left school for three years and then I did a nursery training course as a nursery nurse and I worked as a nursery nurse after that |
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oh I see (interruption) in a |
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another eight years |
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in a n a nursery school like |
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yes |
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oh yes I like kiddies you know and I really enjoyed it because it was variable and you met lots of people and of course there were the children there and I thought it was good |
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yeah whereabouts was that in Gateshead |
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Gosforth |
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oh I see yes yes mm |
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he's a printer |
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I see who for |
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ehm (unclear) and at Andrew Reeds in the town he's been there ever since he left school |
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yes ehm yes it's no good talking to women about what jobs they do because they |
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they never say much about it no |
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eh (pause) ehm just a couple of questions to find out if you use certain expressions eh if something's put a put away on a high shelf somewhere could you say that it's up a height do you use that expression |
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no I don't |
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no |
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I don't really no |
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mm |
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no |
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no |
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I know all the expressions no my grandparents use them but you know I wouldn't |
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yes ehm if somebody's had too much to drink he's what do you say |
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tipsy |
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ta eh (pause) how old were you when you left school |
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fifteen |
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and eh do you think you were glad to leave school or not |
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no I wasn't I rather enjoyed school I liked it |
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mm |
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we had a good staff and of course being in a village you knew everybody and you play with everybody and |
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(laughter) eh would you say that ehm (pause) looking back on your education would you say that it's been worth a lot to you or not very much since |
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since I left school I would say it's been pretty good because I did go to college (interruption) afterwards to ehm well to train as a nursery nurse you see you had a college education after that for three years and eh I enjoyed that (interruption) I liked (unclear) |
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(interruption) oh I see you have some more education (interruption) was that full time training |
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no it |
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yes |
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aye lots of people say they learn more after they've left school |
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oh you do definitely yes most definitely I think missed out going into the town you know and working in the town in office life and that because a lot |
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the big metropolis |
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yes (laughter) definitely |
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eh and what about ehm in ways outside your job do you |
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outside of the education |
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well outside of your job you know do you think that your education's been you know done a lot for you as a person |
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yes we did a lot of ehm environmental studies at school and of course that that widens |
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yes |
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and really I was I was you know really surprised at the things you had learned in school how they they made you be able to cope with situations |
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yes |
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it's really good |
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eh (pause) do you think eh that it's a good idea for children to stay on at school as long as they can |
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yes I do I think they should |
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yes |
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which isn't really all that much good to you any way once you've left school once you have the basic facts that's it |
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mm-hm yes |
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you know you do your (pause) sums (laughter) and eh it's it's not really much good to you once you leave school |
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yes I know some people think |
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well that's all that thing's good but I mean once you've learned the the rudiments of it you know that's all it is it's just really practice after that isn't it |
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yes |
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that helps you to add up quick etcetera |
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yes do you think that eh |
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well I think basically it is and yet if you get interested in certain things it's you can carry on yourself even when you come home you can carry on you know of |
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mm |
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it wasn't bad I mean in our school when before I left we had the choice of taking languages or commercial subjects |
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mm-hm yes |
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which |
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do you think that's because girls have more initiative than |
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yes well you know girls going into offices doing typing shorthand etcetera and boys just thought that was too much of being a sissy (laughter) |
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yes |
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and they just took |
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yes think lots of lots of girls after a long formal education think they would be much better if they could type you know |
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yes well you see you find you've got these colleges like Scurry's |
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yes |
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whereas if you learn it at school as well as your studies it's quite good because you can sit your exams |
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yes |
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(interruption) at school while you're there |
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yes not wasting the time |
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mm-hm yes |
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yes |
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do you think that it eh was it a good place to live from your point of view as a child you know did you (interruption) did you enjoy your childhood |
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oh yes well there was plenty to do being a village you know there was a farm at the bottom of the street |
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(interruption) must have been very different from a a a ci city childhood I suppose |
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I suppose it probably meant that you played less ehm less games and things or do you think that street games are a very citified thing or did you |
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well I you know there were terraces where I lived there were streets and the kiddies in the streets we had the normal hop scotch games and |
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relievo and things like that |
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oh yes yes we did and then we used to go down and swing on the trees you know we used to play what we used to call a jungle we used to have ropes from the trees and swing on them you know and climb them |
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yes |
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it was very good you know we had caves we used to dig caves out of the bank side our type |
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(laughter) yes that sounds dangerous |
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well oh no it was just eh w it's a little hollow you know we used to snuggle in into one one each each person had his own hollow what we would call caves but it was really it was really good you know doing things like that whereas kiddies nowadays |
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I think yes that seems to be true |
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mm-hm |
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a lot of people have the impression that eh children just don't play the way they used to you know |
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no |
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I can never decide whether it's really true or whether we just don't see it you know (unclear) |
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I would think it is I mean if I pushed her out |
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yes ehm (pause) can you remember what you used to call eh a very simple game where one of the eh kids used to have to chase the others to try to touch them |
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we used to just call it chasey let's play chasey |
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and ehm what did you used to |
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well if we used if we touched a one you know s say we you're on |
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that's right yes |
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and that was it |
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yes I was just interested in whether you used the word on for that |
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you're on yes |
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eh and ehm what did you used to say |
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no |
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no |
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not that I know I don't remember |
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(unclear) the word for it (unclear) if you wanted to tie your shoelace and you want the game to stop and didn't you used to say skinchers or anything like that |
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no I don't think so ehm we used to have |
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aye that's right yes |
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you know and if so if you wanted to do anything like fasten your shoelaces or you know put your hair away you just went ran up on the steps and that was it |
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but you didn't have a skinchers word |
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skincher no |
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that's surprising that I thought that I was under the impression that all kids had some sort of truce word for you know |
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I've heard of it I've heard the kiddies in the play yard say that but eh I don't think we ever used it |
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oh you would remember it if you had (unclear) (laughter) |
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definitely I think I would yes skinchers you know |
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and eh what what do you call |
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marbles |
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that was what you called them |
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yes (interruption) play marbles yes we used to play (interruption) we used to play marbles |
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(interruption) you didn't have a (interruption) you didn't have another word for them did you |
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mm no no we didn't |
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you didn't call them liggies or allies or ehm pinkers |
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no it was just playing marbles yes |
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this one's the living room there's a dining room the kitchen ehm the staircase bathroom bedroom well we have two bedrooms |
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quite a lot really you haven't got a (interruption) passage or anything |
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garage no we haven't I would use it a a (interruption) passageway I'd call it |
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you would call it a passage if you had one |
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yes |
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ehm (pause) and eh (unclear) eh if you haven't got the right sort of back door but to get out of my back door you have to lift the (pause) what do you call it |
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you would call it a sneck if you had it |
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eh i it just depends I think what type it was if it was a one with a little hook on it I think I would say lift the sneck |
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that would be a sneck (laughter) |
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yes lift the snick mm-hm yes |
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because a latch is something like a yale lock I would say you know that was a latch |
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yes yeah yes eh and eh again if if you had a coal fire what would you call the thing you stand in front of it to get it going |
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the bleezer |
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yes |
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yes (laughter) |
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and you'd talk about bleezing it up |
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ehm and what do you call eh cleaning the plates and things after a meal |
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washing up wash the dishes |
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both of those either ei either or both |
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yes yes either do the washing up or I'm going to wash the dishes (laughter) |
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yes eh |
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lazing around (laughter) oh well usually at night you see when I get the baby to bed after I've tidied up and done the washing up etcetera and usually I put the television on and I get the (pause) evening paper and I get my feet up |
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exhausting (unclear) |
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well the baby isn't a very good sleeper you know and you're up two or three times at night and then when you're up at half past six seven o'clock in the morning |
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necessary precaution |
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yes I usually do end up having a sleep |
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(laughter) yes |
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not v no very occasionally eh oh (pause) I think well February was the last time we were out my husband goes out two or three times you know with the boys out for a pint |
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we do collect stamps (interruption) yes |
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do you ahh good heavens |
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yes both of us yes we do have quite a substantial ca eh stamp collection and eh I like doing dress making |
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aye yeah |
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which when I have |
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eh eh do you think there are any any things that eh you wish you could have done but that you've never got round to or you never had the chance to do you know any special |
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yes |
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I don't know why just because |
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I I I strangely enough I I I was interviewing an old woman the other day and I asked her this question and she said eh she was about sixty you know and she said I would love to ride on a fast motor bike (laughter) |
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(laughter) |
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people have the oddest unfulfilled |
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(unclear) oh that's never bothered us that (laughter) no |
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what do you think you would do if you won a very large sum of money tomorrow you know if you won the pools or something do you think it would change your life very much |
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I don't think it would change it all that much because I would probably bank it |
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it's not just a matter of money is it |
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no I don't think it is no not just having the money |
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yes |
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so I think I would probably probably move across the valley to Low Fell in |
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yes is Low Fell a better area than this one |
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pardon |
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is Low Fell a better area than this one I mean (unclear) and all the rest of it |
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eh it's yes it is yes Lobley Hill isn't a very good area |
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I wasn't quite sure when I came up here I thought this was a more discrete sort of area from Low Fell |
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mm-hm eh just depends which area in Low Fell of course you live |
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it has its (interruption) |
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oh it's got all the very poshest houses without a doubt but |
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parts of it has yes it's like Gosforth really you know |
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mm |
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they have the posh areas and the middle class areas and the poor areas |
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yes |
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really I think I would live in the middle class I wouldn't like to live in the really posh area |
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mm you wouldn't be a valley drive sort of person |
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no no (laughter) I like that type of house but eh I don't think you see I don't think we would really fit in with the neighbours |
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aye |
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there you know you get consultants and everything living there you just you just wouldn't fit in |
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yeah |
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so I think it's it would be just a waste of money spending all |
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mm-hm |
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really enjoy enjoy your life |
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yes |
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with the money that you won |
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mm yes a lot of people think of travel I think |
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mm-hm |
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but you couldn't see it actually transforming your your sort of ordinary ways of (interruption) living (unclear) |
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yes ehm (pause) eh these are just a few questions about your opinions on some ordinary matters ehm what do you think that parents should do when their children misbehave |
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if you threaten to smack them really smack them you know I definitely would agree with that carry out your threats |
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yes but it wouldn't be |
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oh no I don't think so I think if if you have certain rules and regulations that you set down and if you tell a child that you know like if this one my child goes to the television I say now that's naughty you mustn't do that and if she goes again I say now if you do it again I'll |
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yes |
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and then once they know then you can wallop them I mean every time she goes after that she'll get walloped (laughter) |
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within reason (laughter) eh obviously a child of sixteen I'm saying a child that's because I'm older you see they ehm they they're |
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you wouldn't like to have been allowed to |
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no even if I'd wanted to you know I I eh I don't think I would have been able to survive |
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yes (interruption) you think you would (unclear) |
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because as I say I was as green as grass when I was sixteen year old and of |
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so even if you had wanted to you would have preferred to be prevented as it were |
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I think I would yes yes you know |
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yes |
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I thought oh that was disgraceful you know fancy having to be in at ten o'clock at night but I realize now that they were for my own good |
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mm-hm yes |
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I didn't realize then mind course when I was sixteen I knew everything I wanted |
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you accept that they were sensible regulations |
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I didn't then when I was sixteen I didn't but I realized now it'd about nineteen or twenty I realized they were for my own good you know that I sh should have stuck to them (laughter) |
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mm |
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eeh what you do when |
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ehm this is a question that you don't have to answer if you don't want eh due to the secretness of the ballot eh which way do you vote |
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Conservative |
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yes and this ehm eh have you always voted the same way |
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yes I have I've always voted (interruption) Conservative |
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is that because it's a eh traditional matter |
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no no my parents are eh Labour they've usually vote Labour |
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and what do you think eh changed changed your mind |
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well I used to listen to both sides when I was younger and eh I always think oh if they vote Labour they don't know anything I'm going to vote Conservative and really I do |
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oh it sounds like you it sounds as if it was just in sort of rebellion against (interruption) (unclear) |
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I think it was really yes definitely but eh I don't know I always used to admire Churchill when I was younger and eh |
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yes and do you think you're always going to vote Conservative now |
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most probably unless the Labour party can come up with something really good yes I would eh (pause) I think I would still vote Conservative |
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ehm do you usually ehm turn out to vote |
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yes yes I do yes mm-hm well I think it's everybody's right you've got no cause to complain if you don't go and vote |
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yes |
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if you do go and vote you can still complain about them (laughter) |
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