right

T L S G five eleven

thanks very much ta ehm well could you tell us first of all where you were born please were you born in Gateshead

Gateshead yes

yeah whereabouts

new Gateshead

eh where do you mean by that eh

that's ehm (pause) down by eh Clark Chapman's

oh aye like Saltmeadows

yes Saltmeadows

(unclear) whereabouts else have you lived since then you know I mean how long did you stay there

five year lived eh over in Gateshead moved from there to ehm Elswick Street of Gateshead on Sunderland Road

yes

and from there to Lobley Hill

and you've lived here ever since then

yes not in this house

oh yes

the other house across the road

yeah ehm which of those places did you think was the best to live in (unclear)

oh eh really up here Lobley Hill

it's quite nice up here is it

yes conditions is better

yes do you do you think eh do you find that people round here are fairly neighbourly you know do you know most of the people

yes they are yes I mean if you were wanting a helping hand they would help you you know

yes mm-hm

but eh (pause) conditions is much better now I mean than years ago

ehm (pause) would you say that eh (pause) you were fairly settled in Gateshead you know could you ever imagine yourself living in Newcastle for instance

mm oh yes

you wouldn't mind Newcastle

yes

what about ehm (pause) you know Tyneside as compared with the rest of the country do you think you would ever move away from here at all

I don't think so

no you (pause) think you'd

I'm settled you know

yes you'd miss Tyneside

yes we've had offers to go to Teesside

oh I see yes yeah

to work you know

mm-hm

I just couldn't pick up things and go away

yeah (pause) ehm (pause) you've never actually lived away from Tyneside (unclear)

no just holidays abroad and that you know

eh (pause) eh whereabouts were your parents born please were they born in Gateshead as well

eh (pause) yes my father was born in Gateshead and my mother was born in Fenham

mm-hm yes and eh what was your father's occupation please

metal glazer

ehm (pause) could you tell us which age group you come into on that card if you could just say the letter

forty (interruption) (laughter)

C uh-huh and eh on what basis you occupy this house presumably C

eh rent I'm a tenant

yes ehm (pause) eh (pause) where does your husband come from is he (interruption) from Tyneside as well

Newcastle

from Newcastle

Benwell

eh and eh you don't work yourself in fact

no no

except as a housewife

housewife uh-huh plenty of work in the house (laughter)

(unclear) ehm could you tell us eh what jobs you have done in your life you know (unclear)

I've always tailored

yes

been a tailor you know since about twenty two years off and on the family I've got two teenage boys you know

aye

got one twenty and one sixteen

yes is that what you did when you first left school (unclear)

yes went straight into tailoring

yes and you've kept it sort of going ever since

in between yes I've never worked for four year you know

aye ehm (pause) eh (pause) did you did you like that job (unclear)

(unclear) I'm settled in- yes yes in fact I would go back to work if I hadn't (unclear) girl you know

yes perhaps when she grows up

mm-hm when she gets a bit older I'll go back it's the money (laughter)

(laughter) yes lots of lots of women that I interview also say it's just for something to do as well you know I mean

oh it gets you out as well yes

I suppose that's true ehm (pause) eh (pause) how old were you when you left school please

fifteen

yes do you think you were glad to leave school or not

in a way yes I was dying to get to work (laughter)

aye to start to earn some money like (unclear)

(unclear) and of course I mean the the poor conditions in the home

yeah ehm (pause) have you had eh any further education since then you know

no unfortunately (laughter)

yes ehm (pause) would you say that you know looking back on your on your education would you say that eh (pause) that it had been worth very much to you in your life since you know since you left school

no not really I learnt more later on I think

yes lots of people say that like you know they learn more afterwards

yes

but ehm (pause) you don't think ehm wasn't particularly useful in your job

no no didn't (pause) after fourteen I think I learned more you know

mm do you think now that ehm would you say you would like to have had a better education

yes (pause) I would

mm and you would say that do you think you would say that eh you know education's fairly important for children these days

oh very yes both sexes they need the education

you would always advise your I mean your your sons and so on to stay on at school

yes mm-hm

ehm (pause) do you think education's changed very much since you went to school you know

ooh much yes they're eh (pause) more advanced now better schools you know

do you think the changes have been all for the better

yes I do

what about ehm (pause) say discipline at schools these days do you think there's anything wrong with eh

well the sch- I'm talking about my boy the school he went to wasn't very eh (pause) eh (pause) hard on them you know

aye

it it should have been a little bit eh more

aye that's that's the complaint that most people make (interruption) that that it's (unclear) you know ehm (unclear) too lax (interruption) (unclear)

(interruption) yes (interruption) yes (pause) I'm just talking about the youngest one you know

aye

he should have had little bit more discipline at school

yes

I think the schoolteachers are a bit soft with him

mm-hm where di- where did he go to school

he went to the technical school Saltwell senior high school

yes (pause) eh (pause) when you were fairly young yourself you know when you were under twelve let's say you were living in ehm (pause) Sunderland Road area yes

yes

ehm did you think that ehm did you think that was a good place to live you know from your point of view as a child at the time did did you enjoy your childhood there

oh yes yes it was eh (pause) rough (laughter) but we enjoyed it you know we didn't know any other really

yes

but looking back on it it was really rough I mean conditions we lived in then so forth an- people around here you know

aye yes can you remember eh any of the you know sort of games you used to play and things you used to do there

oh yes ropes skippy ropes

aye

tin the block (laughter) knock-

aye

knocky nine door (laughter) the lot (laughter) yes so (unclear)

eh can you remember eh what you used to call like a game where one of the children chases the others to try and touch them and then you know if you touched someone then he- he's got to chase the other ones what did you used to call that

tuggy we used to call it tuggy (laughter)

so did I aye eh and what did you used to say about the one who had to chase you know when it was his turn to chase he was

you're on (laughter)

he was on

(laughter)

ehm (pause) and what what did you used to say for when you wanted to call a halt in a game you know if you want to stop the game for some reason did you cross your fingers and say

skinchers (laughter)

(unclear) and ehm what would you use to call eh you know the things that boys flick along the ground

marbles

did you not have another word for them

yes we did muggles muggies muggie

yes aye eh still on the eh on the matter of what words you use for things could you tell us please just ehm what you call each of the rooms of this house you know what your normal word is for each room

this is the living room

yes

that's the back kitchen (laughter) bedrooms toilet and bathroom

yes and what about what you're in (interruption) when you come through the front door

passage

yes ehm you know on an old fashioned back door to get out of the back door you've got to lift the

sneck (laughter)

yes and eh ehm again if you've got a coal fire what did you used to call the thing that you stand in front of it to get it going

bleezer

yes eh ta and what do you call ehm cleaning the plates and things after a meal (pause) wash the dishes

wash the dishes uh-huh pots and pans

ta eh (pause) eh could you tell us please just you know how you like to spend your spare time (unclear)

well relax I can knit

aye

sew

mm that does that count as work or is that

no that's relaxing really

oh that's relaxing is it

yes and eh Wednesday night's my night out we go out for a drink

I see yes whereabouts just around here like

just the local yes (pause) just go for a couple of hours the local (unclear)

ehm (pause) do you think that there's eh you know any things that you wish you could have done but you never got round to doing or never had the chance to do (unclear)

oh yes quite a number of things I would like to do I've never been able to clean to decorate myself starting now you know that's one (pause) eh (pause) I would like (pause) in the hou- in the home you mean

well just you know I mean you know recreation sort of activities are there any (pause) you know some people have sort of ambitions to sort of glide and things like that (laughter)

oh yes oh no I (unclear)

would you say you were very sort of contented with your life as it is at the moment you know

yes I'm quite happy

let's say if ehm you know if you won if you sort of won the pools tomorrow you know quarter of a million pounds or something

well that's different I'd just up and away for a lovely holiday first

aye yes

that's the first thing I would do renew the car (laughter)

aye do you think you would sort of change your way of life very much you know do you think you'd

oh I don't think so no I wouldn't go headstrong you know

aye (unclear) do you do you watch television very much you know

well I'm not a keen watcher you know

yes

the lad's more interested in it

uh-huh yes is it usually on in the evening like all the time

yes yes

right what eh what sort of programmes do you like to watch is there any that you particularly like

I like Hughie Green's programme (laughter)

aye

eh the quiz programmes and eh (pause) I like to watch eh (unclear) on a Friday night (laughter)

yes eh do you think that eh the standard of programmes is very good or not

well sometimes they're good sometimes

mm

other times they're bad

yes what sort of things do you do you hate (unclear)

I'm not keen on the tennis at the moment

are you not

sick of it (laughter)

aye

they go mad for it in the house in (unclear)

aye (unclear) everybody (unclear) teaming up (unclear)

yes I know if I could settle down and get an interest in it you know I think I would (interruption) even if it's just sitting watching them on (pause) got to wash dishes and I've (unclear) (pause) annoys me

that's it

eh (pause) these are just ehm a few questions about your opinions on some eh ordinary matters firstly eh (pause) what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know do you think they should (unclear)

well they should get a good telling off then give them a good smacking

yes

if they're really naughty you know

aye yeah but I mean would you sort of say smack them very often or just for (unclear)

oh if they've done anything wrong straight away

mm yes eh and eh you know would you say that a young person of sixteen or so should be more or less allowed to do as they want or not

no definitely not

(laughter)

they like to but no

yeah you still think that their parents should have control over them

yes of course

what ehm would you want for instance to sort of to say what time they came in at night or something

well they should be yes (unclear) I mean they should be eh told what time to come in they should have a eh (pause) have a time to come in you know

ehm (pause) going on to something different and eh (pause) this is a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't ehm which way do you vote (unclear)

oh mostly for Labour

yes have you always voted the same way

yes

eh why do you think it is that you vote you know you vote the same way every time is it (pause) eh

I vote for the people I mean you cannot eh (laughter) we can't eh (pause) vote or do any any other really

it seems a pretty sensible (interruption) way for sort of working people to vote

yes

do you usually ehm you know bother to vote in every election I mean you know local government elections as well as the big ones

the big elections yes but not these (interruption) eh no

but not the local ones you don't?

no go and get your dummy over there on the chair clever girl go on

eh what do you think about eh (pause) the way the present government's going on (unclear)

oh I think it's terrible I think it's really terrible the way they're going on now I mean the prices of food and stuff for me

I know it's incredible isn't it

and they're to blame aren't they

yeah aye well yes I think so (pause) eh (pause) well now if if we could just go on to talk for a bit about the thing that we are most interested in and that's the way you talk and what you think about it you know eh firstly do you think that (pause) you ever change the way you talk according to ehm you know the person you're talking to or any other sort of circumstances

no I don't think so

no would you say you

I never change (unclear) (laughter)

do you always talk the (interruption) same way

yes just eh (pause) I cannot help it

aye

I cannot put the tongue on (laughter)

yes eh so the way you're talking now is just like

just normal I mean yes

same way as you would talk to your neighbour for instance

oh yes

aye

with with the bits of real Geordie comes out now and again (laughter)

aye and do you think on a pretty long term basis you know your speech has always been the same all during your life (unclear)

yes

same now as what it was when you were (pause) young when you were little

yes I think so from what I can remember you know (pause) never changed

ehm

I (unclear) as you get older you get worse (laughter)

(laughter) how do you mean you get sort of more (interruption) more Geordie

yes yes

aye (unclear) some people say that it's the opposite you know that you're more that the more get that kids are more likely to be you know really broad (unclear)

eeh I don't know I think my mother and father's (interruption) getting worse (unclear)

(unclear) aye (laughter)

(unclear)

yeah

she corrects them at times

(laughter)

it's not this it's not your heed it's your head (laughter)

(laughter)

yes I've heard you'll laugh at this she'll s- she'll say it's not your heed it's your head it's not the baall it's the ball

is this her

yes

how old is she

just two

(laughter)

of course she goes to nursery school

yes

and I think this is it she corrects us all

oh they pick things up quite quickly don't they

yes uh-huh and eh (pause) this is what I've this is what's made me think that my parents is broader than we are

oh I think that's true pretty pretty normal like you know

yes

and eh

because eh since they retired eeh they're terrible more so if they have an argument (laughter) just listening you know

yes

just I don't think they'll ever change really it's there with you all the time you know

yes do you ehm (pause) do you like to hear people talking in local accents and that

oh yes

aye

yes

you don't eh (pause) I mean you wouldn- you wouldn't correct them for saying heed (interruption) for head (laughter)

oh no I wouldn't I wouldn't bother (laughter) that's the way you talk that's it

aye what about eh do you think you would correct eh (pause) your daughter if she said (interruption) something like that

no

not even not even then

she kno- I think she knows right from wrong really if she's told you know

aye

they must correct her at the nursery school

aye aye you know a lot of people like always correct their children like about their way of speaking even if they talk really broad themselves you know

mm

but you wouldn't? mm would you say that eh you know if you meet somebody for the first time and they talk more or less like you you know do you think that you're more likely to get on with them

yes yes

sort of feel closer to them do you

yes uh-huh more comfortable

uh-huh eh you know ehm (pause) you know the way the newsreaders talk on television

yes

when they're reading the news out eh (pause) do you think that's a sort of y- you know do you approve of that way of sort of speaking (unclear)

yes I think that's (pause) all right for the (pause) television

aye it's sort of in its proper place (interruption) like

yes but eh I'd (unclear) (unclear) who was talking to me like that (unclear)

aye I see eh do you know anybody yourself by the way who talks like that

well I have friends everybody's sort of comfortable in their company you know

aye

when they're talking like that because eh (pause) you know how to answer them you know (laughter)

(laughter) yeah are these people from are these sort of local people who (unclear) (interruption) change the way they talk (pause) or no (unclear)

they are business people no they're business people they're eh they belong here (pause) eh Tyneside (interruption) but they're Jesmond

(unclear) yes I know what you mean yes and it makes you feel uncomfortable

oh yes I feel very uncomfortable when I'm talking to them

yeah (pause) yeah if you don't think but you still don't think that when you're in their company you you change the way you talk (interruption) (unclear) you still talk exactly the same yes

no no

ehm (pause) this might strike you as a bit of a vague sort of question like but ehm what eh what sort of things do you think you can tell about somebody from the way he talks you know just from listening to some of his pronunciation what sort of things do you think you could say about him

(unclear) my opinion about them

yes you know what d- do you like guess things about people from listening to their tongue you know

oh yes I can give you all the (laughter) (unclear) yes

about eh what what kinds of things do you guess about

(unclear) is that what you mean

yes yes that sort of ehm (pause) that sort of status in life

yes I can eh sort of sum them up you know

uh-huh yes do you think you could ehm (pause) you could tell something like you know the difference between somebody who works in a factory and somebody you know who works in an office (interruption) you know that sort of thing

yes yes I can meet quite a few when we go to The Ravensworth (unclear) you know and eh (pause) you can tell the types that works in factories from eh office you know

uh-huh that's (unclear)

and they've got quite a few couples down there there's a schoolteacher and his wife and a bi- business couple and their talk's completely different you know to what eh (pause) their conversation even is different

aye and it's quite diff- different from yours as well

yes

eh what would you say about eh about my accent from listening to us now you know what sort of a voice do you think I've got

well I think you've got quite a nice voice not eh (pause) not really Tyneside

not Tyneside at all

yes some some words (interruption) yes

a bit do you think I mean do you do you think you would guess that I came from Tyneside

oh definitely yes

yeah but but not very

you're not eh broad (pause) you're not broad Tyneside

do you think ehm (pause) do you think I'm more Tyneside than you or less

no I don't think you are

which which do you

you're not (pause) more Tyneside than me

about the same

no I think a little bit step higher (pause) than me

(laughter)

mm-hm where's gram's ring (NAME) where's gram's ring

ehm (pause) now then eh do you think ehm could you just read that list of words for us please straight down and fairly quickly

find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday room book good maker wafer happy Harry Mary yes better something fall which apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concer- concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with film

thanks very much eh now eh I'm going to read out a list of words that are all fairly local sort of words you know and I would just like to know eh for each one firstly if you're familiar with it and secondly if you use it yourself you know ehm aside for beside

yes

you'd say it's just aside the fire yes eh bairn

yes

bait

yes (laughter)

bonny

yes

bray

no

you don't use it no eh bullets

yes

yes for sweets all the time

yes

clamming

mm-hm

yes boody

mm-hm

coin

yes

coin a corner eh cree

no not really cree

for like a pigeon cree (interruption) you know what it means but you don't use it

yes I know what you mean yes uh-huh I don't use that

but you wouldn't say it eh fettle

yes I'll fettle you (laughter)

gully

mm-hm yes

ken for to know

what

ken for to know

no

no no ehm lowe

no

no do you know what it means lowe for a flame a light

light no I've never used that no

never used to play a game called Jack shine your lowe

no

I think that word's (unclear) very old fashioned sort of word you find very few people who use it eh mense be more to your mense to get some work

yes oh that's an old fashioned (laughter)

ehm parky

mm-hm

varnigh

yes

yes

varnigh

mm mm ehm (pause) mell

no

no do you know what it means

no

no a hammer I think it's just men that use it really what about eh knooled to be knooled

yes

eh

knooled down I remember saying that (laughter)

aye now eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going to read out eh this list of sentences and eh for each one I would just like to know ehm if it sounds if it sounds like a normal sentence to you you know eh if it sounds like something that you might say if the circumstances arose you know what I mean (unclear)

stop it

eh (pause) were you wakened last night when I came in

ish yes

I was still a bed when you called this morning

yes

he never gave us any

yes

ehm (pause) do you not go there very often

yes

they're useless them

mm-hm mm-hm

me and John went to the races on Saturday

yes

eh I might could manage it yes he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

again

he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

no

you don't think so no eh (pause) it's ower big to get through there

yes

yeah ehm you know my cousin that her husband died

yes

yes eh (pause) eh with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her yes (pause) I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

yes

yes they go to the pictures of a Sunday

yes

yeah eh I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

no

no aye these ones are pretty big to them others

yes

yes eh here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

yes

yes eh I think we're going to be soon for the picture yeah would you mind stop talking

yes

ehm do you want a cup of tea making

yes

yeah eh you know him that used to work on the railways mm eh (pause) he happened a nasty accident

yes

eh I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

yes

I wanted for to talk to you about it

you wanted

ehm I wanted for to talk to you about it

no

you wouldn't say that when did it happen you

no

no what would you say

when did it happen

eh (pause) I've got money belonging him

yes

could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

mm-hm

yeah I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

mm-hm

yeah (pause) eh it's all right for you you're used with it

definitely

we've been waiting of a bus

yes

I think they're going to give him the job permanent

yes

I don't bother much about the television and that

yes

there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

yes

yeah eh many people were there there

no

you'd have to say how many would you

yes

where did you get it at

yes

eh never mind I'll manage but

yes

no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in

yes

no the wonder yes me and George is going to the town today

yes

Jack didn't think much to the race

yes

yes think much to the race

oh no no

all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed at them nearly all

yes

yeah they'd not seen it

yes

yeah yeah eh (pause) it's far too long this

yes

yeah (unclear) how's your wife and family then

yes

eh Joe can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

late

being as he's working late

yes

yeah eh what is it he does for a living

yes

yeah he wants his wages paid immediately ehm

yes are you tired

just light the fire on will you

yes

I'll clout yous both in a minute

yes (laughter)

(laughter) how much have they offered we

yes

yeah pass us one of them spanners

yes

I've broke a plate I'm afraid

yes

I come this morning but you weren't in

yes

eh he done it all right

yes

I had forgetten to buy the onions

yes

he give us a pound for doing it

yes

yeah we had went to the coast for the day

yes

yeah I seen Albert on Tuesday

yes

yeah I'm not going to stand being tret like that

yes

yeah ehm that's what happens when you be naughty

yes

yeah I'll probably seeing her Saturday

yes

yeah ehm I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

yes

eh (pause) you've letten him get away

yes

yeah ehm (pause) my mother's keep coming in to see us

yes

yeah we'll sharp get this done

yes

yeah eh he's as Tyneside as what I am

yes

eh you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

yes

yeah ehm (pause) now eh getting a little bit more complicated could you eh give us eh the opposite of eh I'll be going there this week

I'll be going there this week

like I'll not be going there this week you know that's what (unclear) right so ehm the opposite of he's got some

he has none

ta ehm the opposite of he's seen that picture

he hasn't seen that picture

again the opposite of you're working late tonight

I'm not working late tonight

ta eh the opposite of I gave him one

I didn't give him one

ta and (pause) suppose that ehm suppose you went up to somebody in the street to ask for a match what would you say

could you give us a match please

ta ehm and eh could you just finish off this sentence eh I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

today

thanks that's it

that wasn't too bad

wasn't much over half an hour like (unclear)

no (pause) it was great that wasn't it (unclear) great that

shall I interview you now

(unclear) she got a one of those eh head colds

yes

(unclear) fever you know

aye she's been sneezing quite regularly

yes so we'll get the (pause) (unclear)

yeah