no I don't think I would has worked as hard as what I did even though I didn't even work hard do you know what I mean

aye

I would just ehm (pause) ehm (pause) I think I would just

be the same

be the same person over again

uh-huh uh-huh

just do the same things over again

I mean sometimes when I think about it I do miss it but (pause) sometimes I don't even miss the people at school (pause) you know I miss some (pause) I miss some of the work (pause) but I think about (pause) the work I'm doing now compared to the work I used to do at school

it's (pause) it's ehm (pause) when you leave school people think 'oh can you leave school' but when you're in work for about four month and that

you realize

you realize 'oh I want to be back at school' or even if you don't want to be back at school you just miss your friends and that

ehm (pause) what what's it like being in full time work and finishing your course

it was good when I finished my course because I thought (pause) yes I'm brainy (laughter) because I finished it and I was dead chuffed and that (pause) ehm (pause) but work at at I don't know (pause) it's a bit funny because (pause) it's really hard (pause) you know what I mean and it's not like school or nothing like that (pause) and (pause) I just wish I could get promoted so I can get more money (laughter)

aye money's the key to anything isn't it I mean (pause) I divn't know probably when I get taken off full time which I don't want to be taken on full time there (pause) but say if I did and that it would just be the same as being on a course but only (pause) not going to college one day a week (pause) do you know what I mean

uh-huh

ehm I mean (pause) how're you supposed to live on the money you get and that

I mean well the course that I did (pause) and what I'm doing now (pause) it's a bit different because I'm not (pause) doing what I've been trained to do (pause) I'm doing the photocopying and the faxing and that but I'm not doing (pause) like the the typing that I'm trained to do (pause) and that and I want to find a job that I can (interruption) (unclear)

you can do all the things that you've trained (pause) to do

like I'm trained to be a receptionist and that's what I want to be but (pause) I I mean I know you've got to start from the bottom

(interruption) (unclear)

but I I I've already been at the bottom (pause) and I think I should be (pause) a little (pause) bit further on

than what you were

uh-huh (pause) but I'm not (pause) I'm eh (pause) I think I'm a bit worse off it's just the money's better

aye I suppose I mean (pause) I think (pause) when you're when you leave school and that you think 'oh I want to be this and I want to be that' and you give some jobs a trial run I mean your work experience tells tells it all doesn't it

aye uh-huh

it it it finally gives you the final answer of what you want to be (pause) but I mean ehm

I don't know in my work experience it was eh (pause) I mean I know yours was different to mine but I was in a bank and I was just sitting watching people doing what they were

trained to do

aye like doing their work and it

aye

I don't know I was just sitting there dead bored (pause) and I thought (interruption) 'well is this (unclear) for me (unclear) like'

(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) well I I think that when you go on your work experience it's I think it's misleading and that (pause) because (pause) it's totally different (pause) from your (interruption) work experience

when when you (interruption) start (pause) uh-huh

when you start actually start

because when you start you're doing what you've been watching them doing

aye I know

and it's totally different (pause) like when I thought I start when I started YT I thought 'oh well I'm just going to be watching people doing their work' and it wasn't it was me doing the work

aye (pause) aye I (pause) I mean (pause) a (pause) it would be good if we had like some (pause) school people that come into our place do you know what I mean but I mean we our place is (pause) it's big enough and that it's just that we're not (pause) we're not enlisted in those roles (interruption) to do something like that do you know what I mean I mean ehm (pause) aye (pause) hopefully one day you get at the end where you want to be and that but ehm (pause) it takes a lot of hard work for making yourself up (pause) you need qualifications (interruption)

(interruption) uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh (interruption) aye I know

but once you're at the top I mean (pause) you can not gan no further do you know what I mean you gan the top and then you're getting them anyways (pause) but ehm

ah it's like (pause) I finished college and this is where I've stopped you know what I mean I'm stopping here (pause) but I know I'll not because I'm going to try an get on to better things

exactly

do you know what I mean

you you don't stop you always go on (pause) you you (pause) you never know enough about what you're doing (pause) do you know what I mean

mm-hm

and there's always things to be learnt you never know the whole thing about that

ah that's just life though isn't it I mean all you're looking for (pause) is (pause) like (pause) work that's all you're living for work and going out of a weekend (pause) I think that's about it

oh aye the weekend's something else like isn't it

aye uh-huh

I mean eh (pause) a lot of people I mean a lot of people say people our age like seventeen sixteen seventeen (pause) the their mam and dad say (interruption) they're too young

they're too young aye

to go out to nightclubs like Madison's (pause) or something like that but I mean eh (pause) well I mean on a weekend what else you supposed to do hang around street corners

exactly (interruption) I mean (unclear)

do you know what I mean (unclear)

they sooner let you go I mean I'm sure that's why my mam let us go although I don't think she approved with it when she found out but I mean eh

well it's all right for with my mam because she's knew from the start I mean I've never said 'oh I'm sleeping out'

well a my mam my mam didn't know that I was going clubbing until I telt her like (pause) Sunday do you know what I mean

(laughter)

but I mean she knew I went down the Bigg Market and that and

well my mam's like knew from the start so I mean I've always said I'm going to go nightclubbing (pause) I mean the first time I asked her she like blew her top a bit

oh aye oh ah that's why I didn't ask my mam and dad because I knew well that my dad would have

said no

said 'no no no' and if I'd have asked to stay out then (pause) then I would have had no chance and I would have ended up staying (unclear) (laughter) (unclear)

(laughter) (pause) s you didn't bother saying anything (pause) I mean it's funny because (pause) you think they're going to (pause) like you you don't know if they're all going to blow their top or not because they mightn't have done

but ehm (pause) but at the same time you don't want to take your chance (interruption) of them saying no (interruption)

(interruption) aye uh-huh (interruption) so they wonder why you lie to them (interruption) (pause) and that (pause) aye

aye (pause) I mean I think that's the worse thing my ma can eh (unclear) like (pause) I mean (pause) I don't think she's bad about us telling her anything it's the lying (pause) it's if she's stupid do you know what I mean (interruption) she can see straight through it

mm-hm (pause) mm-hm well I think I've grown out of that now I mean I know I can say anything to my mam now (pause) I mean I've (pause) a (pause) she knows (pause) the most the stuff that I've done do you know what I mean

aye

she knows most the stuff that I do now and all that so (pause) I don't know I think that with us having a older sister as well that helps

aye well an older brother doesn't

well (pause) because (pause) she she's had it (pause) before I mean so she's going through it again so she knows how to handle it a bit more (pause) so I think my sister's (interruption) like (pause) opened the path for us (laughter) do you know what I mean

(interruption) aye (pause) aye (interruption) somebody be went before you

aye uh-huh

and (unclear)

like I mean (pause) my mam says 'our (NAME) never did this and (NAME) never did that'

but they did (interruption) aye they did

but I know a they did aye she's just trying to say this (interruption) so I don't do it

she's saying it again because she said it to them

aye

you know like 'you're not doing this because we didn't do that'

uh-huh

but when you come along 'oh you're not doing this because (pause) he didn't do that (interruption) so you're not doing it' (pause) but aye they did

aye but they did (pause) aye exactly

aye they did do (pause) because you can always remember

aye

all of them didn't come in at this time (pause) when the them are this age (pause) but they did like (pause) but you're not

but the thing is and all why when you were a bit younger than what we are now ehm (pause) like say when (NAME) was sixteen and that and she use to come in at half past ten and I was like twelve or something and I wanted to come in at half past ten

aye

because she used to come at half past ten I think my mam got a lot a lot of bother off that like

mm-hm (pause) but I mean eh (pause) I I don't believe in this make 'it's different for boys' (pause) boys are different it's different for girls girls are 'you can not do this because you're a girl and (pause) he would have done it because he's a boy'

aye

'he's got to protect his self and all this'

it's two (pause) (interruption) two faced like

in this day and age owt can happen and everybody is their own

aye well I mean that's (interruption) right I mean (pause) things do happen more to girls than what they do to lads (pause) but I don't see why their parent should be more (pause) overprotective I mean I think they should (pause) they should try and trust them (interruption)

(interruption) you know what I mean (pause) exactly (interruption) as equal

uh-huh

equal as they were and that

I mean my brother and he's fourteen like comes in like whenever time he wants (pause) and I never used to at that age you know and I always say well (pause) 'well why are you letting him'

mm-hm

'why you letting him get away with it' and that

he's a lad

aye (pause) exactly I mean (pause) my ma thinks that the sun shines out of his bum but never mind (pause) it doesn't (laughter)

mm-hm because he's the only lad

uh-huh

I mean there's two of yous

aye I know

that's what it is I mean (pause) ehm (pause) well he's (unclear) he's tret (pause) tret so equal as (pause) there's one of each (pause) do you know what I mean

uh-huh

she can not eh (pause) although I still see her like (pause) she's got something for him like (laughter)

(laughter)

(laughter) (pause) but ehm

oh well (NAME) thinks that about you though doesn't he

oh no I think it's (pause) both ehm

I mean it's the same as like when (pause) like my driving lessons are coming up like (NAME)'s like (pause) 'well I didn't get the (pause) get that many for my birthday'

has she passed has she

no (pause) like (pause) she she's saying 'I didn't get that many driving lessons for my birthday' (pause) because my dad said he was going to give me a little bit more (pause) and so m my dad and (NAME) started arguing

(laughter)

because I was getting more driving lessons than her

I think I mean well when my dad asked us what I was get what I wanted for my birthday (pause) I mean you see he had bought my prov provisional like

aye

and eh (pause) I never (pause) I never really asked for driving lessons I just eh I just said I fancy just (pause) I fancy getting some driving lessons when I'm seventeen you know I didn't say I wanted them for my birthday and he got (pause) he got it for my birthday like but I mean that was my main present you know

oh aye (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

eh I've only got four to go before my test

aye I know

four more to go (laughter)

(laughter)

four weeks now and I'm taking my test so eh (pause) should be canny

so when's your next one

next (pause) Sunday or tues (pause) I can not even remember the days of my tests and that ehm (pause) I think that it's next (pause) Tuesday (pause) no (pause) mo (pause) Monday (pause) Monday

so (pause) is it good though (interruption) driving

Monday (pause) bank holiday Monday (laughter) at half past ten (laughter)

oh (pause) y (pause) you can not we're all going out

it's at half past ten (pause) finishes at half past eleven so

oh well that's all right then

so it'll still be early but eh

aye (pause) aye bank holiday Monday (laughter)

but I mean eh my other friend (pause) (NAME)

uh-huh (laughter) (pause) your boyfriend yeah (laughter)

he's eh (pause) he's got his test next week

has he

aye he's got his test next week so (pause) then you'll have yours (pause) and your brother'll have his

mm I don't know when it'll come to my test like (pause) about five years time

I've had seven driving lessons (pause) eight nine ten (pause) I'll have (pause) I'll have I'd have had eleven driving lessons ye should need that's all you'll probably need

(laughter) ha well I've never been in front of a wheel before (pause) God I'll be sat there (pause) shaking (laughter)

it's funny (laughter)

oh God (laughter)

but I mean eh (pause) total different feeling from sitting in the passenger seat because you've got total control on your car

eeh

it gans where ye want to gan (unclear)

eeh aye exactly into a brick wall (laughter) (pause) for me

doesn't take long like I mean eh

I'll probably get it eh sued for crashing the car or something

well (pause) (interruption) I don't know

on my first driving lesson

but I mean it's a frisk you know something to do I think that's why I chose to be a mechanic because it's different

aye

nobody else is doing it like and half the lasses that want to do it haven't got the bottle to do it so I I thought 'I fancy doing that like'

aye

so I mean

I don't know I think I've always wanted like (pause) do reception and that I mean I've always wanted to do something like that

aye

you know I mean

like wor friend (NAME) she wanted to be a paramedic then she wanted to be a s a lawyer

aye I know (interruption) (pause) and now she still doesn't know what she wants to do (interruption)

(interruption) (unclear) (interruption) she can not she can not be one thing (pause) you know like that (pause) because she hasn't had long enough to to think about do you know what I mean she keeps on chopping and changing her mind so

mm-hm

I still think she hasn't eh (pause) she's still unsure of what she wants to be

mm-hm

but ehm (pause) but ehm

so did you want to be a mechanic all the time (pause) or not

I I (pause) no no (pause) when a when I was younger I thought like I used to go on about the army do you remember

aye you no you wanting to be an electrician or something like

no mechanic in the army

no I thought it was something diff something about the tanks or something

no that's (NAME)

was it

aye

oh good

aye but I mean I always wanted to eh (pause) I thought about going in the army you know when I was younger and (pause) being a mechanic in the army and then I thought 'oh well I'm not ready' when I were away on holiday

mm mm

I think that made my mind up I was away for two week and I thought (pause) you know it's great to get away from your parents and that (pause) but in a way it wasn't do you know what I mean I think I got homesick (pause) dead quick and that

aye remember when we wanted to join the T A?

hey I'm old enough now you know

aye I know you are

old enough now to join now I mean eh (pause) I'll ask our (unclear) but I mean (pause) it'd be a frisk that you know

aye I know it would it would like is it just all lasses or do lads go as well

no lads lads and lasses it's mixed

oh (pause) right (laughter)

but ehm

like I'm going (laughter)

mm-hm aye (pause) but I mean eh (pause) I think I (interruption) (unclear)

it'd be hard though (pause) I'm not a fit person

not really (pause) well look at me I mean I'm not exactly eh (pause) Linford Christie you know

(laughter)

but I mean eh (pause) I'm (pause) they make you into what you want to be you know what I mean they go out with you on field stuff and that

aye

so (pause) try hard enough you get there

aye (pause) I don't know that's not my kind of thing though really

it wasn't mine

you were just thinking about it last year

eh

you were just thinking about it the last year

I know I was just thinking about it but when I went on our holiday I mean it eh it just eh (pause) divn't know (pause) set us back a little bit I mean probably I will one day and then probably I won't you know (pause) I mean I cannot see what's going to happen in the future but (pause) at the minute I'm just (pause) hoping to pass the exams to make sure I get (pause) maybe a mechanic or (laughter)

(laughter) (pause) aye

but I mean eh (pause) I hope I do I mean I've I've tried hard I've (pause) you know I mean I've proved better than some of the lads in my group

mm-hm (pause) well I mean I've got my qualifications now so (pause) I'll just

did you get your money through

aye

how much did you get

hundred (pause) spent in a day (pause) it was gone on clothes that straight away

I got eh I get a hundred and eh (pause) fifty or something (NAME) got (NAME) got a hundred and eighty because he done two years in one well if I (pause) I'm doing two years (unclear) (pause) like two years you know what I mean

mm-hm

in one (pause) because I'm jumping straight into third year so I mean

well I had this hundred pound and I was going to keep it in the bank because I was going to move out (pause) and I was going to keep it like for a deposit on a flat or something and then I ended up taking fifty pound out (pause) and then taking the other fifty pound out

and just buying clothes and that

aye (pause) just spending it

well I mean if I get money like that you know (pause) and in the end (pause) I've got (pause) the exam's coming up now and if I pass it I'll get it takes about a month for the money to come through depends on how much I get in fact say in the third year I get a hundred and eighty for just doing the year I'm doing now (pause) and going to the second year which I know for a fact I'm not doing I'm dumping a year

aye aye I know

(unclear) so I mean eh (pause) I I think I'll go for a car you know (pause) get my father to insurance for my eighteenth birthday (pause) not eighteenth (pause) Christmas more likely (laughter)

(laughter)

but I mean eh (pause) it'd be nice to have your own freedom (pause) get up in the mornings and that

aye drive to work

and back and you can do what you like and that

aye if you can afford the parking space

it's the petrol man not the parking space (interruption) (unclear) for free now

(laughter)

but I mean ehm (pause) it'd be canny though

aye (pause) suppose it would (pause) showing off and that (pause) see some of your friends standing at a bus stop

aye as long as it's (interruption) not a banger

and you go past in the car aye I know

but I mean eh (pause) could be (pause) should be a laugh

aye

ehm (pause) kind of car do you fancy

oh (pause) Golf (pause) convertible (pause) Golf GTi

within reason like so you get insured for it like you know

(laughter) ehm (pause) a small one (pause) a probably a Micra

a new or old

a new

aye you know but you haven't got the money for that

(laughter)

I think it would have to like a a three door Escort (pause) I mean like Orions you know

oh no I'd rather like a small one to start off with

Micras I like the old Micras they're nice (pause) (interruption) I like the old Micras

well I'd rather have a new one

I know

(laughter)

but the old Micras are cheaper (laughter)

(laughter)

(unclear) ehm (pause) but I mean (pause) how sitting a Two CV

oh no (laughter)

prams

(laughter) I like ehm

Fiestas

Fiestas (pause) aye the new ones though

oh aye

but you can get like (pause) I mean (pause) the J reg or something like that

H J

aye

(unclear) like that

I I mean (pause) they're they're not new and they're not old like they're the new shape

you mean the new shape

aye

but like

aye

when they've just come out

reasonable (laughter)

aye (pause) tidy and that

mm-hm

I divn't like (pause) eh

I don't know I mean (pause) I'd rather wait and get a quite a good car (pause) do you know what I mean than (pause) (interruption) driving around in a crank

aye (unclear) (pause) because as soon as you pass your test you (pause) the first thing you'll want is eh (pause) car

I know but I

it's the same

I don't want a crank (pause) like a crank you know

I know but it's the same as when you eh

I suppose well it doesn't matter as long as it runs doesn't it (interruption) as long as it takes you from A to B

well take a loan out (pause) you take a loan out don't you (pause) our (NAME)'s just took a loan out he took a loan out for three grand him (pause) it's costing him eight hundred and fifty for his insurance and he's spending the rest on a car

how did he

he he he (pause) he's got to pay back like

aye eh (pause) they check (pause) what how you're working and that as well

he took his out (unclear) man he aye I know

they check like

but he (pause) they (interruption) like they con

what wages you're getting though like and (interruption) (unclear)

aye I know but but (pause) they like confirm it and that and say that like they accept you you know what I mean like

aye

they've took you for the loan (pause) but I mean ehm (pause) he has to pay like four hundred pound deposit (pause) and then he's got to pay (pause) like every month (pause) like once every month do you know what I mean for like two year (pause) it's like a hundred and eighty pound a month or something stupid like that (pause) a hundred and twenty two (pause) something daft like that (pause) I I can't remember now (pause) because he's had that many quotes but eh

aye

he's got to pay back that (pause) eh every month so like thirty pound a week out of his wages he's got to put away to pay back for two year a long time but then again if you've thought what you want then

aye (pause) I mean (pause) you never know you mightn't even have the car by then

who

he mightn't even have the car (pause) he might he might have selt that one and got another one by then

aye (pause) I know

and he's still paying that off you know

but when he's selt the car and gets the money for that car he'll be able to buy another

uh-huh

and then (pause) I mean (pause) obviously you've when his wages go up

aye I know

obviously eventually they will because I mean because he's just got his last exam to do and that's

uh-huh

that's not long now

he might come into m some kind of money and want to

aye

like (pause) end up paying it off

I mean he's on a lot he's on a big bit of money now like ehm

aye

God but

it's all right if you've got the money to pay it off but I mean

you've got to have a job (interruption) (unclear)

I I I divn't like to be in debt I I (pause) like to like save up and then (pause) pay for it all off

no no no I think (pause) I like being in debt me like I'm in enough of it at the minute like but

mm-hm (pause) I'm not in any (pause) just to my mam

(unclear)

I mean ehm (pause) just

just what you want man it's like going for your (pause) your driving lessons saying 'I want to drive I want to drive' when can't you go to school or when you're seventeen and that

aye

but as soon as you pass you test man you'll want a car

it's like a choice between going on holiday or having a car isn't it

aye but the point is when you holiday's over it's over

aye I know

you've still got your car

I know but you got your memories and it's like (pause) it'll be good

no I think I'd want a car and then save up for a holiday (pause) because you car's always here for you

aye

the holiday's over (pause) you know what I mean like

uh-huh

it's just (unclear) (pause) and then you've probably saved that money up 'oh I want to go on holiday again' (pause) you know what I mean and you'll never end up with a car

no

so I think (pause) eh

you just (pause) go like somewhere in Britain or something for your holiday

it's like saying 'ah I want to go on hol I want to go on holiday but my house needs to be like done out' just moved in (pause) decorate your house first because your house is always here

aye well that's what I'll do

and you see you go on holiday you come back with the house in a mess and that

I'm (pause) moving out as soon as I get promoted (pause) or I get a better job (pause) I'm getting my own place

are you looking for a better are you looking for a job at the minute

no (pause) I think I probably will start to (pause) I think I might (pause) just because I mean

(unclear) go on after they've made the after the three month

I don't know (pause) I think it's only a fiver extra but I mean when you're eighteen it goes up but (pause) I want something that I'm trained to do

aye well you want to start looking for another job man

I know (pause) it's hard though

I know it is (interruption) (unclear)

I mean I was just lucky to get that I mean I was on (pause) I finished college and then I ended up being on that bridging allowance (pause) like the dole (pause) for a couple a weeks (pause) and I was just lucky to get that

did you look for it yourself

mm mm (pause) went to careers centre (pause) (interruption) (unclear)

is it is it like the job centre and that

aye like it's a job centre for sixteen to eighteen year olds

where's that

on College Street up beside Civic Centre (pause) you know where it is

oh aye (pause) aye

careers office

because there's another (pause) there's a job centre down next to ehm (pause) opposite Ritzy do you know what I'm on about

aye it's further down though it's more beside ehm (pause) that (pause) that stupid night club

Fat Sam's

Blitz (pause) Blitzy (pause) it's opposite there (pause) across Blitz or something (pause) Bliss Bliss aye (pause) that snobby thing (pause) that's opposite it's opposite there further down from there

aye I know (interruption) it's opposite Fat Sam's

you can go you can go in there and have a look

but the majority is for older people

it's for older people (pause) because like the stuff that they get they take (pause) for under eighteen year olds they take up the career centre so you might as well go up there

aye

it's better just to go up there (pause) and then you can go in and talk to one of the careers officers (pause) and they're and they're better than just looking at a board for a job

do them tell you like

well they just say what it's about and that and what kind of job you're looking for (pause) they help you out (pause) at least you've got somewhere to go

I mean now I would like a job at the minute but I mean it'd have to be a full time one (pause) and then again I've got to finish the course at college you know what I mean

uh-huh

so if I found a full time job I so I I've always having to say to them 'look eh I (pause) I've got to leave here one day a week' do you know what I mean and a lot of places wouldn't agree with that

no

or 'I'm paying you such and such on full time now (pause) you (pause) we can't afford to let you go to college'

aye I know like I'm eh (pause) I want a part time job as well (pause) I know that sounds greedy but (pause) I do I want a part time job (pause) like even if it's just Saturday work

aye (pause) I've been looking for some I mean there's one for cleaners and that but I mean (pause) eh (pause) dressed in a pinny and everything and people are walking past you know (pause) although not really (interruption) (unclear)

I don't know I've done it before so it didn't really bother us

what cleaner

oh cleaner no (laughter)

(laughter) (pause) that's what I'm on about

in a pinny thing

or a cleaner

no (pause) a cleaner you see working (pause) the eh

got to (interruption) (unclear)

hours are (pause) too horrible for mine for me anyway because I mean it'd be like (pause) finishing w my work at five o'clock

starting at half past five (pause) (interruption) once you

and starting somewhere else I mean I would end up dead by the end of the day

exactly so I mean (pause) that's going that's what's going to happen to most jobs though (NAME) (pause) part time jobs and that (pause) if you want a job you're going to have to go for a Saturday job if you can not keep your job there

oh aye or bar (pause) bar work (pause) one (interruption) (unclear)

no (pause) I was looking for that ages ago me (pause) I usually see the ones in the eh (pause) Central Park but I'm not like dancing

no (pause) I wouldn't (pause) I wouldn't do the ones in eh (pause) the town because I'd have to work on a Saturday (laughter)

oh aye because that's when most of them want you

aye I don't want to work (interruption) on a Saturday though (pause) because Saturday's like (pause) my night out (pause) (interruption) I look forward to it too much

(interruption) Saturday's (interruption) Saturday's a day to look forward to when you're a at work and that

aye

you think nearly Saturday

aye

I can't believe it or when it comes to Friday I can not wait till Saturday but I've got to wait till Saturday do you know what I mean the weekend is yours

mm-hm

to spend how you like (interruption) you've worked all week for the money

aye this week's just flying past can't believe how much it's flying past this week

it doesn't feel like that for me like

it does for me

not now (pause) feels like it's dragging now (pause) but I mean ehm (pause) something to look forward to

aye I know (pause) I love the weekend

(unclear)

I I I think it's dressing up more than anything (interruption) as well

dressing up and make you I mean especially you know I'm in overalls all day and I'm black you know

aye

you get into your clothes and then think

uh-huh

aye it's it's different this do you know what I mean (pause) or like when we were at school and that we used to go out all the and that (pause) a fore I started working that (pause) never used to appreciate it you know (pause) I mean you're in your clothes (pause) you wear your clothes for work eh and then most the week fair enough

uh-huh

you change (pause) you know what I mean but you (pause) I've in the overalls all week and I've (pause) it's like a uniform (pause) you know what I mean I'm in and out of these all week

aye

it's eh (pause) not very pleasant like

it's like school I mean (pause) when you're at school I mean (pause) we never used to have a uniform (pause) so's like we used to wear the same clothes (pause) eh (pause) every day

aye

I mean even at the weekends because

well even though then again even though you didn't wear a uniform you did wear a uniform because nearly everybody wore the same clothes

I know but like I mean you try to be different than everybody else well I used to be anyway

aye I know

I never used to like being the same as people at school (pause) because I mean (pause) if (pause) if you're just a little bit different (pause) they used to have something to say to you do you know what I mean

aye (pause) ehm it made you think oh well here I must be something worth noticing do you know what I mean they've (pause) I'm (laughter) I'm so interesting they've got to talk about us

aye (pause) uh-huh

I mean (pause) and if they weren't talking about us they would be talking about somebody else

aye I know

give somebody else a break

I mean I still find that now (pause) people talking about you

I find it (pause) eh (pause) (unclear) like

no (pause) I know I mean at work I mean (pause) twenty five year old woman talks about you behind your back (pause) and

you'd think that (pause) that they'd grown out of it (interruption) do you know what I mean

you would uh-huh

come into the real world (interruption) (unclear)

I mean even if she had anything to say to us (pause) why can't she say to us (pause) ehm to my face

exactly

aye instead of saying it to somebody else (pause) I mean you always find out

oh aye there's always somebody around that'll tell you 'here do you know what she said about you'

uh-huh

there's always somebody I mean

I suppose you'll always have bitchiness in you

although (pause) eh that's one thing I've really got away from I mean with us working there with no lasses but (pause) they'll say lads are a lot better to work with than with lasses you know and I I I think tha that's right because there's hardly any bitchiness (pause) but there's a lot of other things that go on you know what I mean like

oh aye

sexism (interruption) and all that

aye I know (pause) gossip and that

(unclear)

I mean when I used to work in the garage like (pause) on my YT placement (pause) I mean (pause) it was mostly men and that like used to work there

aye

and I used to just get loads of abuse (pause) all the time

well that's what I get (interruption) and people'll say (pause) come in to the garage and that and say (pause) 'do you get any stick working here' and I'll say 'aye' and they say 'do you get any when you first worked here' 'aye' I think I'm going to get it all the through do you know what I mean because they're not going to stop (interruption)

(interruption) mm-hm (pause) (laughter) (interruption) uh-huh

I mean a lot of people think or when I'll get on the bus black and that when I've been home from work and like they'll laugh half of them'll laugh like and think (pause) 'look at her' do you know what I mean 'obviously what she is'

well so do you know I mean

(unclear)

it's (pause) I can not understand I mean because people still like that I mean they should eh (pause) they should know by now that (pause) I mean man can do a woman's job and a woman can do a (interruption) man's job

exactly (pause) it's different now from what it was say

uh-huh

twenty thirty year ago whatever it is it's a lot different all equal rights but well I mean look at the (pause) people are wanting like women priests and that think it's ran by (pause) it's run by men so (pause) as long do you know what I mean (pause) there's no look in for women and that

well (pause) I mean even the men pri some of the men priests I mean they're supposed to (pause) believe in God and all that and women are equal and all that (pause) and half of them don't like it that women are becoming priests

aye no I know

they're just hypocrites

don't know no they just don't

the they say things and they don't really mean it (pause) the way I think

it's all a front man

mm-hm

it's all it is just because it's hard to think it's been run by men for so long and women (pause) you know (pause) well it it's a man's job man's world women (pause) but when it was voted against them when women were allowed in

I mean everyone says 'he' like 'him up there' how do they know it's a him how do they know it's anything

exactly (interruption) (unclear)

I mean all right eh (pause) they've got a right to eh (pause) believe in something but I don't know why they see it as a him (pause) all the time

(unclear) they could be it could be anything do you know what I mean it it they mightn't even be anything up there to look (unclear) (pause) there mightn't even be reincarnation (interruption) (unclear)

well (pause) nobody knows nobody knows until you die but

exactly you find out your own way but I mean

if they want to believe in it (pause) eh (pause) I mean eh

that's all right you know

I just thinks like religion causes a lot of war

that oh aye

do you know

aye I know what you mean

causes a lot of (pause) problems

it's not the easiest thing to get along with though is it

no (pause) I mean like Christians think that's all that there should be and Muslims think that's all that there should be and all the other religions (interruption) that

Hindus and (pause) (interruption) and all them

aye (pause) so I mean they're just at war with each other all the time

Christians (interruption) and

you're supposed to be at peace in God's peace and that (pause) well what look what they're just making it worse for themselves

I know

it's all they're doing (pause) and th (pause) that's like (pause) I'm just (pause) I just don't believe in nothing I'm just (pause) I divn't know I've never really thought about it

I I

I thought about it but I mean I haven't thought about what kind of religion I am or anything like that

I mean I'm not christened because my

I'm not my ma thinks it's up to me

exactly that's why my mam and dad didn't christen us they thought you know 'whatever she wants to be when she grows up it's up to her to decide I can not choose that' because people get christened in such and such and all that do you know what I mean they divn't want to be it

uh-huh

but they're stuck in it now (pause) so my mam and dad left the choice up to me and (NAME)

uh-huh

so people say like 'what nationality' and all and (pause) what (unclear)

well nationality you know what nationality you are (laughter)

oh I know but some people though do you know what I mean (pause) like they'll say 'ehm (pause) like what religion are you' and all that do you know what I mean and you'll say (pause) well the only thing you can say is 'Church of England' do you know what I mean

well I don't even say that I just say 'well I'm nothing at the minute (pause) I don't know what I am'

I d I haven't really thought about it though

well what's your mam and dad well it (pause) it doesn't (pause) whatever my mam and dad are I (pause) it doesn't mean that I have to be the same as them

exactly

I mean that's the way I've been brought up I mean that's why they didn't christen us

your life is your own

mm-hm

the only I mean your mam and dad are there (pause) to see you through and see you like get up all right and as their mam and dad did before them before them do you know what I mean

mm-hm

but ehm

uh-huh

goes on for generations like doesn't it

mm-hm (pause) so has your ma any religion

she was ehm (pause) her mam my mam's mam was (pause) brought up with nuns and that like (unclear) the school in town like (pause) nuns' school in town

no

it's next to eh (pause) (unclear) (pause) no it's not it's next to the (pause) where's what's that one opposite called eh (pause) Saint James' Park that bus station what one's that one called again

Gallowgate

down from the Gallowgate like a church thing and anyways my nana was eh (pause) that was a school (pause) it was thousands a year ago like (laughter)

(laughter)

that was a school and eh (pause) sh she got brought up by nuns like taught by nuns and that (pause) she knows like everything from Irish (unclear) the whole lot

I think my mam's Protestant

but my dad's prot Protestant and my mam's

Protestant (laughter)

(laughter) you know (laughter) whatever (unclear) (laughter) but my (laughter) dad (laughter) my dad (laughter) (unclear) and my mam's Catholic (pause) Catholic

no (pause) I (pause) I don't know what (pause) I don't know if my dad's anything

(laughter) well he's in alone with us chickens (laughter)

I don't know I've never really asked him (pause) I (pause) m (pause) it's something that we don't (interruption) talk about

I mean that were that was one of the reasons why we didn't get christened because (pause) do you know what we supposed to get christened in my dad's side or my ma's side

aye

do you know what I mean so they just left the choice to us basically

right I mean (pause) my sister like says what's the point in christenings and godparents because I mean your godparents are supposed to take you to church aren't they

mm-hm

and (pause) do you know what I mean (interruption) and look after you when your mam and dad dies or whatever (pause) if like (pause) you end up being orphaned (pause) it doesn't work that way (interruption)

(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) no it (pause) it never does it's

it's it's (interruption) just aye

just like a state that just give someone a title

uh-huh

a name (pause) it's all it is

I think it's stupid me I mean it's all right for some

it might be stupid but it's one of those things that everybody's got to live with do you know what I mean it's there

I mean some some like Christians and Catholics or whatever eh they (pause) if they do get christened they've got godparents like if they like really really into it

mm-hm

do (pause) like do what the godparents are supposed to do do you know what I mean

mm-hm

but like there's people like (pause) eh we know from school and that you ask ehm and like and they say 'oh we're christened and this is my godparent this is my godparent' or whatever and (pause) well why are they your godparents for you know

it it's just to give somebody a name you know what I mean

and they say well (pause) (interruption) w (pause) what religion are you 'well I'm not any' but you're christened 'well (pause) my mam made us (pause) eh you know (pause) it was when I was little I don't know nothing about it' (interruption)

(interruption) it's just one of them things that I just totally (pause) aye (interruption) I just let it go through me like because it (pause) it's just one of those things I don't really care about do you know what I mean

aye

God there's more to life than being a Catholic or whatever you want to be

I don't know I mean I think if people live for that then that's fair enough (pause) let them get on with it (pause) but I think like people who go round the streets (pause) or come to your door and that (pause) saying eh (pause) 'do you ehm (pause) you should come to church' and all that

oh like ehm (pause) Jehovah's Witnesses or them whatever

I mean if (pause) if you wanted to you would go for yourself

aye

I mean I don't see why they should have to nag and nag you (pause) and of course people just slam the door on Jehovah's Witnesses

oh aye (laughter) (pause) my mam let them in once (pause) she didn't know who they were

(laughter) mistake

she didn't know who they were and they ma tried to sell my ma this book and that (pause) and they pestered my mam (pause) come back again and again and again she couldn't get rid of them (pause) until the my mam stopped (pause) she never answered the door (pause) she went (pause) she'd go round saying '(NAME) is that (pause) if it's a Jehovah's Witness divn't answer the door'

this man this man came to my door like they put a book through the letter box and 'Jesus is your friend' and this on the (laughter) on the book

(laughter) aye have you seen the man (interruption) (unclear) stands on the Monument (unclear)

well this man (pause) oh aye (pause) with a big cross

aye (laughter)

well this man came to the door right and he was eh (pause) he had us standing at the door for an hour

oh aye trying to tell you everything

and (pause) uh-huh (pause) an (pause) well no it was just that eh (pause) he was saying (pause) 'you sh you and (pause) somebody should come over and ehm (pause) have a cup of tea over at the church' over (unclear) somewhere and I'm going 'oh yes yes' and I was just going along with him because like I'm too nice slam the door on anybody (interruption) (unclear)

oh aye (interruption) I

or say 'get lost'

aye (pause) I got go along with it and all

aye

I cannot just say that to anybody but

they say 'do you believe in Jesus'

no

well I've never really thought about 'well you should think about it' oh God

it's something you want (interruption) to consider

go away (pause) uh-huh

but I mean I I divn't know I think in a way I believe there's something up there (pause) I divn't know what like obviously but I mean I believe that there is something up there

do you believe about (pause) Adam and Eve

(laughter) I I I've just never been asked that before like but I mean eh

no (pause) in primary school and I can still remember we we done this thing on how the apes started like (interruption) how everybody thinks

aye Adam and Eve and the (pause) (interruption) things

no no we didn't do that we done the one where eh (pause) it started off as a little dot or something and then there was a big explosion (pause) and (pause) in eh (pause) space

oh aye (pause) I divn't believe that like

and then it was all water I do

no

I do

(unclear)

and it started off as a little dot in the water in earth (pause) and then it grew into a fish or whatever in the sea then the fish grew legs (pause) and then started going on land (pause) because the water started dying down a bit (pause) and then it stopped going and that

aye (interruption) and then there was Adam and Eve (pause) but who (interruption)

(interruption) I believe that (interruption) I don't believe Adam and Eve

no I but a lot of people do though (pause) I know (unclear)

I (unclear) I think I don't know I don't believe in it (pause) (interruption) I think there was

it's (unclear) like isn't it

I think there was somebody called Jesus

oh aye I think there is someone called Jesus

who (pause) who eh (pause) made up this thing about (pause) this thing called God (pause) and tried to eh (pause) I think he was crazy me I think he was a bit of a mad man

(laughter)

and he were (pause) and he (laughter) no (pause) and he (pause) he was like (pause) like they do now he was a kind of a v vicar priest thing

aye (pause) well have you seen that they like

they tried to get some f followers

have you seen that thing where (pause) people like has just (pause) one day got a rash on the hand (pause) and then they get get a cross there (pause) and then through the feet did you see it on the telly

aye

well I mean there's loads of people like that (pause) wh what's that off

I don't know

do you know what I mean they get crosses on their head or it suddenly appears and then they get like (pause) things through the their hands do you know what I mean and (interruption) their feet and (unclear)

uh-huh (pause) and it's f funny about like (pause) people who say they've (pause) they believe in that ehm (pause) they can remember being something in a past life

aye

I believe that (pause) oh I do like they've been hypnotized

mm-hm

and and they've like (pause) lived this thing again

mm-hm

just by (interruption) being hypnotized

mm-hm (pause) like a deja vous sort of thing though

no (interruption) no

the reverse of it though

aye no well I don't know I don't think so

well it it is if you thi if you think of deja vous seeing into the future (pause) you (pause) the reverse of it you

aye

do you know what I mean

uh-huh eh (pause) I believe in fortune tellers

I divn't believe in card women like (pause) I think it (pause) total load of

pap (laughter)

aye (pause) honestly I mean (pause) you waste your money (unclear) (pause) you know

aye

totally waste your money

I believe in fortune tellers though (pause) this gypsy

and palm readers and all that

this gypsy like came up to us in the town the other day (pause) and eh says 'oh do you want us to read your hand' and like I would've but I had no money on us I just says 'oh well I've got no money' and she was dead nice (pause) like usually I like (pause) walk like half a mile away from them (interruption) like

(unclear)

no she just says eh (pause) 'do you want a gypsy to read your hand' like that and I went 'I've got no money' (pause) she went 'oh God bless you' and

and toodled off and that (interruption) but eh

aye (laughter) and toodled off

have you seen the ones at the Hoppings there's any amount of them and half of them are proper ripping people like

oh well they are are at the Hoppings like everybody is at the Hoppings

but if you go to a proper one I mean (unclear) he's done ones (pause) I mean eh (pause) was (pause) his dad's brother's friend and (pause) everything that was saying that (unclear) that she could (pause) there's stuff that she couldn't possibly know do you know what I mean there was stuff that we never even know about (unclear) and eh (pause) I think that's what made us believe in it and (pause) you know what I mean

aye (pause) oh I believe in it (pause) I mean there is ones that you can phone up and it's about (pause) a pound a minute (laughter)

oh aye I know

and they keep you on for like an hour (laughter)

(laughter)

and your ma gets the phone bill (laughter)

eeh aye I know (pause) mm

funny like (pause) I wouldn't do it

huh

I'd phone from a phone box

oh aye

if I had enough money

bloody cost you a (unclear) a phone box like probably but (pause) your money (laughter) gets dropping through here (laughter)

(laughter) I know

(unclear) you've been to (unclear) put it in (laughter)

so what are you going to do over the bank holiday

oh (laughter) (pause) well we's we we

I've got no no (pause) I've got a driving lesson in the morning (pause) half past ten (pause) and then eh (pause) I'll probably meet her

well we're going to go down the coast but I don't think I'll have enough money

n no neither do I so

I was thinking about The Balloon (pause) like no local

I know I know but (NAME) (pause) everybody's going to be in The Balloon (unclear) (pause) that's wor friend and that (pause) if she's ganning be in The Balloon with all wor mates she goes The Balloon all the time (pause) she does (interruption) (unclear)

on a bank holiday

aye it's either between The Denton or The Balloon (pause) so I thought like we could either (pause) miss the day (pause) and go out on the night time (pause) which I mean

where's open on the night time the town's not open

I know we could gan to The Denton (pause) on the night time

seven o'clock until half past ten

well (pause) go go about five o'clock then

well how can we go out at five o'clock when the bars don't open until seven

well I divn't know (laughter)

I want to go out for the day

well I I divn't know if I've got enough money me

(unclear) the coast's open all day

is it open the night time

don't know

I wonder if them eh (pause) clubs are open

they're stupid

huh

(unclear)

what Ritzy's will not be

well (NAME)

sure it was last bank holiday Monday

(NAME) man it'll just be empty

because with it's being a Monday

well with being a bank holiday Monday

oh I know

because everybody's down the coast (pause) or in the locals

mm (pause) we'll just have to wait and see where we go

I want to go The Balloon

I know you want to go The Balloon but I want to (interruption) go to The Denton

I mean (pause) most (pause) well we'll go to The Denton (pause) but through the day (pause) but I mean (interruption) (unclear)

oh ah (laughter)

as simple as that

but anyways probably be going out with her somewhere (laughter)

(laughter) when we make up our mind

aye wherever

don't want (NAME) coming

(NAME)'s working

that's all right (interruption) then

like that's wor other friend

(laughter) who we don't really like very much (laughter) well I don't (laughter)

she's canny sometimes (pause) she tells a lot of porkies

eh yeah she lies a lot (pause) compulsive liar

aye

she has been since (pause) primary school

she be de I mean (pause) she's (pause) I think she's frightened in case sh

she's different

she can not tell we something do you know what I mean if she telt we the truth then we wouldn't mind would we

no no I mean it doesn't bo it doesn't bother me if (pause) somebody hasn't got this or somebody hasn't got that I mean but she like says 'oh (pause) I get this and I get that'

aye you know even if you've telt her something she's always got to go one better than you

uh-huh

and it's (pause) I think it's just the way she is she's not going to change with anybody

no

she lies and she doesn't even know that she's doing it now

no (pause) I don't know I I mean (pause) all right I (pause) tell white lies and that

well everybody does that

everybody does that I know but (pause) I couldn't lie like that I would I would drop myself in it too much

oh (pause) you've got to have a good memory to be a good liar

I know

or something daft like that isn't it (laughter)

(laughter) (NAME)'s not a very good liar (pause) only to her mam

oh no that's when I used to go to like used to go it clubbing and that in the town used to tell my ma and like I was just going to town then I'd be in for half past ten at my friends (pause) but like never used to get in like until two or something (laughter)

(laughter)

she never knew (laughter) telt her the truth on Sunday like (pause) but I mean everybody does that

uh-huh

everybody does it (pause) oh I feel a spot coming right on my chin (laughter)

oh look at these (pause) spots who needs them

I hope it gans afore Saturday (laughter)

before you came we all talking about what what we were wearing weren't we

oh aye we were sorting out what we wearing for Saturday

because it's Wednesday and it's (interruption) getting too close (laughter)

aye it's Wednesday and it's like (pause) three days away now (laughter)

(laughter) I know we've got to think what to wear

ehm I'm lending my ma's top but she doesn't know it so (pause) she will when I ask her no I just think I'll just put it on when I'm all ready

(laughter)

and say can I lend this (laughter) (pause) so she can not take it (interruption) back of us

aye (pause) and then you end up being late meeting me

because she'll take it off you (laughter) (pause) I've done it loads a times that

that's the thing (interruption) about

don't ask her

that's the thing about (NAME) she's always late

oh well

it doesn't matter

(laughter)

you say 'be on time or I'm leaving and I'm not and I'm going without you' and she'll still not be on time so you still got to wait for her because you don't want to go by yourself

(laughter) I can't help it like now (pause) I mean I I never used to be late though did I I used to be dead on time

ah shut up

hey I did I did I used to be dead on time

aye that was on mornings for school

aye well that was different though (laughter)

(laughter) for school you were never ever late

I was like

oh for lessons aye but you weren't in the morning (pause) half past six you used to be up for (pause) be at mine for half past eight I was just getting out of bed

aye well divn't do that now (laughter)

(laughter) it's me who's up at half past six for work now

here by the time (pause) when you usually leave the house I'm at work (unclear)

no (pause) (laughter) (pause) I've got to leave early the morrow so I can get my bus pass stuff (pause) I'm going up the (unclear) what time's the (unclear) open the college ones

six o'clock wasn't it

in the morning

aye (pause) because I usually go up about seven o'clock on my bus pass (interruption) in the mornings

oh right (pause) I'll go about eight (pause) if I'm up

I'll be the town by eight o'clock

(laughter) I have to go the doctors I've got a bad back

I'm going Friday

you're going on Friday

aye

again

aye to find out my tests blood tests results

oh right

because I've got thing wrong something wrong with my blood or something daft like that

water or something wasn't it

water and (pause) water on (laughter)

water on the body

aye (laughter) (pause) it's usually water on the brain (laughter)

aye (laughter)

water on the body or something (interruption) (unclear) find out what's the matter with you

the way you go on it it (pause) probably is because you're that thick (pause) sometimes (pause) she comes out with the wrong words

oh aye sometimes (interruption) I do like

(laughter) and says things (interruption) backwards

compared (pause) compared to what I'm saying then oh aye (pause) but compared to what I'm saying though eh I still know what I'm on about though (pause) and up in here (laughter)

(laughter) I think you're the only person who does

I know (pause) some people understand us (laughter) divn't know who like

(laughter) the dog my dog (pause) understands you (laughter) my mam and dad'll be sitting upstairs talking about cup of t coffee (laughter) because I was supposed to make them one (laughter)

(laughter)

(laughter) when I went away up with the table I said 'tough you're going to have to wait' (laughter)

(laughter) they'll not dehydrate (laughter)

(laughter) no

I'll ask for some money and then they'll (pause) then I'll say I'll make one (pause) I won't do nothing unless I get paid for it (pause) not off my mam and dad anyway (laughter) (pause) I go the shop and I have to keep the change

(unclear)

mm-hm

yeah I remember I I used to to get to k kept the change like I mean (pause) I remember when Chronicles were only like twenty two pence or something do you remember

I can re

my ma give us a fiver (interruption) to get a Chronicle

wasn't that long ago like (NAME)

do you remember

aye

you know went to shop I spent like four pounds seventy five or something (laughter)

(laughter) eeh I know (laughter) she didn't say 'keep the change' or nowt

(laughter) kept in weren't we for two weeks or something like (laughter) we're thinking 'no' (pause) never done it again (laughter)

(laughter) aye I know

used to say you can keep your change all the time (unclear) (laughter) it's usually about five times (unclear) (laughter)

(laughter) you go and you've already spent it 'ma can I keep that change off that money you give us'

no (pause) (unclear) (interruption) (laughter) or eh

(laughter) it's too late (laughter)

do you remember I bought like a Dime and this and (laughter) (pause) bought all this stuff

eeh aye it's funny (pause) or say 'ma can I have that pound that's on the bench' and you've got (laughter) (unclear) (laughter) in your bag

(unclear)

(laughter) (pause) or (unclear) (laughter) in your pocket (laughter)

(laughter) (unclear) no because we had to come back outside and put it back where it was (pause) aye

aye (laughter)

or (pause) you'd say 'ma can I have some money (unclear) the bench' (laughter) there's two lots of money so you take the most

(laughter) or you take both

and spend (laughter) the (unclear) (laughter) (unclear) money and you said take some money off the bench

aye (laughter) (unclear) it's not very nice what you do to your mam and dad but I suppose they're used to it (laughter)

oh aye they've had seventeen years experience haven't they

no sixteen

I remember you know when you know when meters the fifty pence meters now (pause) were out years ago fifty pence (interruption) (unclear)

for the electric and (interruption) gas aye

aye gas or something there was a fifty pence piece on the fridge (pause) and a and fifty pence was a lot of money like when I was something about (interruption) eight or something or was (pause) really a lot of money

(laughter) aye (pause) (laughter) aye I know

so I went to the shop (interruption) and that

ten pence was a lot (interruption) of money

so I pinched it off the fridge and I went to the shop and went 'give us a fifty pence mix mix up' so I walked past my window with it behind my back like (laughter) and eh (pause) I mean it felt like this do you know what I mean (pause) like half (pause) like you could get half penny chews (interruption) and like the bag was like this my mam took it back the shop and I had to give the (pause) I had to give the man in the shop the sweets back (laughter) (unclear)

oh aye (pause) aye (laughter)

eeh (pause) then my mam just said (interruption) (unclear)

but eh (pause) when we used to do community service at school this little lad I know he had ehm (pause) pinched a pound off the bench and went the shop and bought loads of sweets and thought he was brilliant and his mam (laughter) took him back to the shop and (laughter) (unclear) (laughter)

(laughter) it's shocking that when you

you think you're dead good and that because you got loads of sweets (pause) and your friends have got none you go 'ha ha'

(laughter) oh aye

(laughter) when you're little

it's funny like

did you have to do chores around the house before you were working or do you have to do any now

no never

no supposedly do my bedroom and that's why it's a bit of a mess it's only a little bit mess isn't it (NAME) (laughter)

oh aye you mean like climb through (unclear) (laughter)

supposed to do my own bedroom but I don't

I divn't do nowt (pause) nowt me

I wash my own clothes (interruption) sometimes

no I don't do that I can't I can not (pause) I divn't know how to use the washer

I iron my own clothes as well (pause) she doesn't know how to use a washer

I divn't know well last time I used a iron (pause) which was I was ironing this skirt last night and it went shiny

uh-huh

went shiny my skirt but eh

I always iron my own (interruption) (unclear)

or it gets a big iron mark on it (interruption) but it hasn't burnt through (pause) but eh (pause) I do nowt in mine (pause) don't wash my cups or nowt (pause) I just leave them in the sink (interruption)

(interruption) that's why they're all creased (interruption) I think it'd be better though if we were supposed to do things because it like teaches you when you move out and that

oh I know but I divn't know I think it's like the way you get brought up I mean (interruption) you (unclear) nowt like

you get more independent

like that I mean my mother does it (pause) I mean I hoover up once in a while for her like when they go out or something

when you feel like it (pause) (interruption) when you're bored

(unclear) oh well (pause) oh (pause) I think the only thing that she's trying to get us to do like in a matter of like (pause) seventeen year or something she's like trying to get us to do something like eh (pause) is dust my room (pause) I divn't like doing that like (pause) it's quite boring

(laughter)

(laughter) (pause) really (laughter) boring (laughter) (interruption) (unclear)

it's all right if you've got (pause) if you've got some music (pause) music man and then you can dance while you're doing it