Archive Interview: PVC03
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Speaker 1: | interviewerPVC03 |
Speaker 2: | informantPVC03a |
Age Group: | 51-60 |
Gender: | Female |
Residence: | Tyneside - Newcastle |
Education: | Left school at 15 |
Occupation: | Clerical and Hospitality Worker (retired) |
Speaker 3: | informantPVC03b |
Age Group: | 51-60 |
Gender: | Female |
Residence: | Tyneside - Newcastle |
Education: | Higher Education (Physics Degree) |
Occupation: | Physics Teacher (unemployed) |
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I used to do that at Seaton Sluice with them (NAME) used to take the kids along (pause) to nana's |
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and I used to sit with my f |
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cleaning it (pause) (interruption) you don't have to do that now |
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cleaning (unclear) (pause) I don't make my own (unclear) anymore well Marks and Spencer's are (interruption) so good |
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oh well I still make my own |
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oh good for you (unclear) make them (unclear) |
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(unclear) |
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but everything used to be done in the th the ehm well it was called the kitchen then because we lived in a flat (pause) in Heaton upstairs ehm as you know and with an outside loo and what have you we had we did have a bathroom but with just a bath in no wash basin or anything |
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yes |
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which is now we would call a kitchenette and the kitchen used to be where we used to eat and sit and (pause) that's where the piano was and in fact ehm (pause) didn't get any hot water unless you put the fire on so it was always a lovely warm room (pause) but everything was done (unclear) |
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yes well it was like |
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eeh I bet there is yes |
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there is there's real (unclear) coal in the coal house |
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(laughter) |
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because I keep saying this (laughter) is (laughter) (unclear) a big (unclear) this (laughter) (interruption) |
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well you should keep a |
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oh I never thought of that |
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yes the (interruption) New Year (pause) take a piece |
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oh to take in for our for our our shilling and you know (pause) (interruption) piece of coal |
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yes (unclear) still got a piece |
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have you |
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yes |
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eh |
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(interruption) but everything everything |
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so did you have a (pause) a one of the (pause) big ranges |
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yes with all the |
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the proper range with eh |
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with the oven door (pause) yes (pause) my pyjamas used to go in the oven to keep warm (pause) because it was so cold |
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cold |
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and when you used to come out of the bath everyone did it nobody took any notice of anyone we used to all run in front of the fire in the kitchen and get dried regardless of whom it were (laughter) |
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yes (laughter) did you find sometimes |
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oh no no |
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no |
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because eh no when I used to go to bed my dad ehm (pause) used to be in the a ARP |
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yeah dad was in the ARP (interruption) as well yeah |
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and he used to have this big heavy coat (pause) and once I were in |
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(interruption) oh (pause) you were all right (interruption) oh no because my kids comp well (NAME) complains about being cold now I can remember (pause) lying in my bed (pause) in the war and waking up so cold that I couldn't |
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and then I used to get up on the morning went to the lino (laughter) |
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(laughter) oh yes it was lino |
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(unclear) wasn't carpets it was lino |
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the lino |
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yeah |
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yeah |
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eeh it was eh (pause) oh (unclear) they don't know they're born |
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no |
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no no I can remember the year that I was at North Heaton |
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ehm (pause) and I had it was the first time ever I had to stay for school dinners because I always used to g go home on that bus it used to come from parson's you know (interruption) from outside parson's and up Chillie Road used to catch that at the top of Tosson Terrace to go |
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(interruption) that's right (unclear) (interruption) I remember that |
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can you remember that |
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I remember that yes we tried to make an igloo out of it (unclear) |
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(laughter) |
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yes yes I always used to |
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yeah because you (laughter) didn't have very far to go (laughter) |
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no it wasn't the thing to do no |
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no well I mean you know when I was at Cragside junior school (pause) there was just the kids that came |
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from Cochrane Park on they used to have come on the school bus and they had to stay for lunch but nobody else did |
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well I used to st when I first went to school I went to |
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oh (unclear) (pause) it wasn't a lollipop lady (interruption) (unclear) was (unclear) |
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oh no no no a policeman used to stand |
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(unclear) |
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no he crossed the road (unclear) |
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so how long did you go did you go to Chillie |
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I went until I were |
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juniors and (pause) no infants and (interruption) juniors |
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juniors and |
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yeah well I was at Cragside (unclear) juniors and then I went to North Heaton |
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when I was eleven |
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mm-hm and then you were a clever soul didn't you |
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yeah then I went on t t to Central after that |
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but I was at I mean I can still remember because all the classrooms used to open onto the hall didn't they |
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yes they did |
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you could hear the teacher in the next |
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(interruption) yes (pause) mm-hm (interruption) mm-hm that's true |
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and lovely staircases with a with a (unclear) |
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Miss (NAME) was the headmistress |
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yeah Miss (NAME) was the headmistress (interruption) when I was there |
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actually I spoke to her not so long ago |
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did you |
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she's still alive (pause) she lives in Gosforth |
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good heavens |
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so how |
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it was through it was through a a lady (interruption) (unclear) |
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she must have been quite old because to be a headmistress (interruption) she would have to be well on |
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well she (pause) she is still alive |
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so when I was eleven she would be was she twenty years older than me so yes (unclear) years older than me sixty seventy yeah she could she just need be in maybes her eighties |
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mm-hm (pause) it isn't unusual these days |
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yes and the |
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a good time was had by all I can remember going to to Mrs (NAME)'s cookery lessons (pause) can you remember the cookery (interruption) room |
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oh I can remember the cook the it was the cookery sort of eh |
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and he had a great big ehm |
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it was in in another building was it |
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you had to go (interruption) across the yard |
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the bottom of the yard at the bottom of the yard |
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yes |
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and there was the science lab there the sewing room (pause) and the cookery (interruption) room |
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cookery room |
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and eh they used to have the big old flat irons (pause) we were taught (interruption) how to iron but they had the flat irons as well they had the odd electric one but they hadn't you know (interruption) you they just getting to be modern then |
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I thought the there were a proper ehm (pause) range to put them on and you had to spit on them and clean them with sandpaper or (pause) clean them down before you could iron |
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so that's even (interruption) worse then |
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and then when then when we used to cook the meals Mr (NAME) used to ehm |
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he was a (interruption) teacher (unclear) |
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he used to teach at |
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yes I I knew there was some (interruption) relationship there |
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yes |
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well Mrs (NAME) used to organize it so that eh Mr (NAME)'s meal were cooked (pause) and |
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by her girls |
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yes |
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(laughter) |
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and it used to be taken over to eh (pause) Heaton Tech and I used to love to do it because (NAME) was at Heaton Tech |
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oh yes |
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eh I got round to marrying (NAME) |
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(laughter) (pause) first met him in the playground |
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at the playground (laughter) |
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yes I knew Heaton Tech because (NAME) (NAME)'s father was the headmist headmaster there was he still there when you were there |
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yes he was |
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mm oh it was quite a quite a scandal did you hear about that |
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mm no |
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mm-hm (pause) mm-hm |
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and we kept sort of being a bit upset that perhaps (NAME) would be moving to Dewsbury (pause) and it turned out that he'd he'd maltret her mother all her life |
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(unclear) |
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and she'd stayed with him well she hadn't actually stayed with him because (laughter) she was living in Newcastle and he was living in Dewsbury but she had only applied for divorce when her |
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dearie me |
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so that was why he went to Dewsbury (interruption) and they didn't go |
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mm-hm (pause) oh well |
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but oh her mother was a wonderful woman |
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(interruption) mm-hm (pause) mm-hm (interruption) yes that's right King Edward |
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King Edward Road yeah |
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that's where they lived |
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lovely mm |
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you used to walk through the Dene and turn up |
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that's right (pause) oh yes Jesmond Dene (pause) I used to go there with the boys from the the street and collect birds' eggs |
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tut tut |
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tut (interruption) tut |
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tut tut it's not (interruption) not allowed (unclear) |
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my mam never knew otherwise I would get into trouble (interruption) (laughter) |
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well I mean you know you're not allowed to do any (unclear) because when we (pause) well I didn't do it because I didn't do biology but the people at school |
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can you ever remember those |
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yes I made a (unclear) (interruption) I did |
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you did |
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you went and you had to try and (interruption) get |
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get |
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all sorts of flowers (interruption) and |
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different flowers (pause) mm-hm |
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look them up in the book and write what (interruption) they were and where you'd found them and when you'd found them |
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we did (pause) mm-hm |
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yeah but I didn't I never did biology |
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yes (unclear) (pause) mm-hm |
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between blotting paper (interruption) (pause) under a dictionary |
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that's right (pause) that's right |
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so you made one of them (interruption) did you |
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I did I did ehm (pause) I'm trying I can't remember the name of the eh science teacher (pause) |
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I can't remember I can't I can |
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she used to have all the animals ehm (pause) hamsters and guinea pigs and a tortoise |
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that's a bit before her time wasn't it |
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and fish |
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that (interruption) was a bit |
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and snakes |
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what oh (laughter) no |
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because of me |
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(interruption) (laughter) (pause) (interruption) |
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mm-hm (pause) that's right |
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mm-hm well I didn't have anything (pause) hamsters |
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for holidays but no I mean that that's pretty forward looking for (interruption) for that time wasn't it |
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it was (pause) mm-hm (pause) (interruption) and the snakes and the snakes used to put snakes in the ehm (pause) |
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(unclear) everybody (pause) did you used to be kind to the snakes as well |
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oh everything I used to go down early and clean them all out and they even had (pause) budgies (pause) can you not remember that |
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no I can't I can't remember (interruption) ever going to the science lab at all (interruption) I can remember the cookery lab |
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(interruption) but I was interested I was (pause) (interruption) well I was interested in all that |
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yeah I can remember the cookery room |
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but apart from that I can I can more or less remember being stuck in that classroom all day and |
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used to go out the doorway and into the hall for for singing |
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and the gym was a new building out across the yard as well wasn't it it was |
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that's right |
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that was just |
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and I can remember that I can not besides that I can also remember going to eh |
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you went upstairs to the sewing room |
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yeah |
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the science lab was right opposite ehm (pause) cookery cookery you turned right to (interruption) and you turned left |
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(unclear) well I can not remember I don't |
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I just can't (pause) I just can't remember her name |
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no I can't remember as I say I can remember the cookery room but I can't remember perhaps perhaps we didn't you see we were sort of |
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I were a bit (interruption) younger maybe they changed it you know |
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we were a bit (pause) we were also a bit sort of hybrid in it were it was the last year |
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but in the January (pause) we had to move into senior school it was the way they moved it they didn't move you every year you just |
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no |
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you just went through the school and when you got to the top class you moved out regardless an and so it was in |
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(interruption) mm-hm (pause) maybe not (interruption) I don't I don't know how long she'd had this sort of thing going you know as I say it might be after you (interruption) mm-hm |
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that's right (pause) mm-hm mm-hm |
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and on and on snowy days the snow used to blow right across (pause) and you had to come out of your classroom into the snow and run (interruption) along to |
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(interruption) yes (pause) yes (interruption) yes they were outside |
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yeah I had a feeling they were (interruption) I couldn't remember exactly |
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yes they were outside |
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they were right beside the wall between Heaton Tech |
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oh that's right yes |
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aye that (interruption) (unclear) |
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we used to play netball in the school yard |
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yeah |
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and then we used to go down to Sam Smith's for the games we used to all (pause) troop down all the way down to (interruption) Sam Smith's that used to be the old Rington's |
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oh yes (pause) we didn't because the only time I can remember going (pause) somewhere for the games we |
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oh well (pause) well we walked down to ehm (pause) (interruption) Benfield Road there (interruption) |
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(interruption) I can't ever remember (unclear) (interruption) yeah |
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to Sam Smith's which we used to call Rington's |
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well we used to be the playing fields (interruption) so |
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and that's where we used to have the (interruption) (unclear) |
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so (interruption) either |
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actually there's a school there |
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Benfield it'd be (laughter) Benfield Road school |
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Benfield Road school that used to be on |
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is that is that the (pause) secondary school the big secondary (interruption) big secondary |
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it must be but that used to be Sam Smith's ehm |
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yeah I can remember that but with it but again you see whether it was because you were a senior |
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strictly speaking a junior well I don't know but I I know I can remember going in this bus because we were in houses |
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and and I won the relay race (pause) for my house |
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but the (pause) for some reason oh they didn't have time for the |
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(interruption) I was in the blue house |
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can not remember what house I was in |
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well I won the cap I won the cup didn't I I won the lot (laughter) |
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good for you good for you because you were you you used to (interruption) run (unclear) |
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I used to run (interruption) for Heaton Harriers I was a Heaton |
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Harriers as well yeah |
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yeah (interruption) good for you |
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but there again you see that used to be down at Benfield Road as well the Harriers old Sam Smith's (pause) Rington's (pause) and then we used to go to Chillingham Road baths as well we used to all troop up the baths (interruption) for a swim |
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baths yes I can go I can remember going to baths Chillie Road baths well I can remember when we were |
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we used to set off about nine o'clock in the morning |
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and walk to the baths and stay in the baths |
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and 'where have you been' (laughter) |
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oh yes well I did all my swimming at Chillie Road baths with them being handy but the school used to take you there as well |
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yeah |
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we used of course when we were at central we were spoilt because we used to go to the Royal Grammar bath |
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but there again you see that was unusual I mean in in those days not a lot of people got the chance to learn to swim (interruption) did they (unclear) |
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oh I know (pause) that's true |
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my kids were always being toted all over the world to to do their swimming lessons |
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but eh (pause) it was unusual |
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oh well |
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well my mam swam don't think my dad did (pause) but eh |
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and I stayed on at ehm North Heaton until I were fifteen (pause) ehm |
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and then did you go to park oh you were in the dole office first (interruption) weren't you |
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and then I went well I s I worked in |
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that's right (pause) mm-hm |
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I ended up by being head girl at North Heaton (pause) then I got a nice letter actually funnily enough just last week we were talking about old coins and I went into my mum's old purse and I came across my letter from Miss (NAME) from school (pause) |
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yes |
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I found those for mam and dad when we were going through dad's things and we got all these letters (pause) ehm (pause) for when dad got his job at James Smith and Company |
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mm |
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I think it was about nineteen twenty six |
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yes (pause) mm-hm well I've even got my letter (pause) eh my (unclear) (pause) from starting Parson's and I got one |
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(laughter) well I can beat you with that one because I've got my uncle's (pause) ehm (pause) indentures for starting Parson's now when would that be he was born in nineteen twelve so it would be nineteen twenty six again (interruption) and he went at sixteen for his five years apprenticeship |
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mm-hm (pause) mm-hm |
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and I think he got half |
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mm |
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for the first first year |
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and then it went up |
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yes well I (interruption) (unclear) |
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five bob |
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one (laughter) pounds fifty |
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(laughter) (pause) one pound fifty bet (laughter) you were |
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yes I thought I was the (interruption) bee's knees |
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yeah rich as (unclear) is that (laughter) yeah |
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mm-hm (pause) I started in the library and I stayed there (pause) for eh |
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yeah (NAME) (NAME) |
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and I stayed there |
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I know (laughter) |
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and I (interruption) were I were there before they built the the tower and everything when I first went there they lived worked in a tiny little (pause) |
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(laughter) we all did (pause) (unclear) (interruption) oh you were up above the tunnel (interruption) in the glass shop weren't you yeah |
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yes yes long (interruption) before they built it |
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yes |
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so I started there with (NAME) and then (NAME) came and then you came |
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then I came but that oh they would still be building the tower when I came |
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yes (interruption) mm-hm |
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they were just (pause) just finishing building it (interruption) about then |
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but they had the the new lab then though (interruption) didn't they |
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oh yeah but we were in the new (interruption) labs |
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yes (unclear) when I started was it above the (interruption) old drawing office place a funny (pause) little place |
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mm-hm (pause) I can remember the being told because they used to keep all the the bits of glass and things up there (interruption) when I was there |
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mm-hm (pause) mm-hm yes well (interruption) that's where I |
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as I say we used to live up |
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yes we (interruption) did |
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oh (interruption) crikey yeah |
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we did (pause) mm |
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that was a great place (unclear) Parson's wasn't it (NAME) used to live (pause) used to work there |
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mm |
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just along the passage and then he got put in the new offices on the other side |
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then he he (pause) when they closed the (pause) |
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he opened the place at Long Benton |
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you know where the sports (interruption) place was well he had this little little tiny site in the corner just inside the gate and he moved all the infra red (pause) to there |
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that's right (pause) mm-hm |
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and then of course I think they were there for a couple of years |
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and that were but do you know what they do with the tower now |
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(interruption) it's still there |
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it's still there (interruption) (laughter) |
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I pass it I don't think anyone's actually (interruption) in the offices it just always looks empty as I go by (interruption) |
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(interruption) (unclear) (pause) yeah (interruption) why (interruption) (unclear) |
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but we used to climb all those steps take those photographs |
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take those photographs do gavioli tests |
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mm |
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yeah we had great fun it was great great fun there |
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yeah |
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it was a lovely place to work really (interruption) it was better than (unclear) |
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well I did learn a lot I mean I learnt how to eh (interruption) take photographs (pause) develop them (laughter) mind they were old glass slides I mean not a not a modern film (laughter) |
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(laughter) (unclear) (pause) take (laughter) photographs (laughter) (interruption) can you remember that that terrible thing we used to have to do the photocopying |
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oh yes yes I (interruption) do |
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where we used to lie the the paper down (interruption) and like then put shut the lid and count to ten (laughter) (pause) and open it and then we had to develop and fix them didn't we (interruption) |
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(interruption) that's right (pause) lid yes (interruption) that's right |
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it hadn't not like today when you just (interruption) stick it in at one end and they go round and round at the other end all done that's great fun that |
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(interruption) oh I know (pause) true (interruption) and then we used to put the the lenses into the ehm (pause) into into the the the eh frames and we used to have to drill the holes through it eh (pause) they were in ehm (pause) can't think shoe plates they were |
Speaker 3: |
oh (interruption) yes that's right |
Speaker 2: |
and we used to put them in the mounts |
Speaker 3: |
yes we had to put the le |
Speaker 2: |
yes |
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had to roll the lead |
Speaker 2: |
yes so they were (interruption) the spacers so they don't (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
the (pause) yes (unclear) go (pause) so that they were in the middle |
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and I can I always remember Mr (NAME) coming in one day to see me with this drill in my hand you know |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
and he were quite horrified (laughter) in case I blew the place up (laughter) or something (laughter) |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) (unclear) pretended he was worried about you though (laughter) |
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oh (pause) oh of course |
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mm |
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eeh we used to (interruption) (unclear) |
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I did learn a lot (interruption) (unclear) |
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can you remember those awful mornings we used to go in and they'd changed the filters and the whole place was covered (interruption) with soot |
Speaker 2: |
oh yes yes I do yes |
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and we had to spend the whole morning (interruption) washing down there all the benches (interruption) |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) cleaning (interruption) yes (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
and all the |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) yes (laughter) have you |
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because ehm (pause) when (NAME) (pause) when the place was was all closed down (NAME) was kept on for a year |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) have you (interruption) oh |
Speaker 3: |
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Speaker 2: |
(interruption) mm-hm (interruption) oh crumbs yes |
Speaker 3: |
can you remember (interruption) them |
Speaker 2: |
yes yes I can |
Speaker 3: |
yeah well we've got (laughter) (interruption) |
Speaker 2: |
(laughter) |
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in fact if you went up in our loft you would think you'd (laughter) never left Group Parson's but ehm (pause) every time when when he had to clear everything out and he had to arrange for all the the instruments to go somewhere (pause) and he ehm (pause) he brought all this other stuff (laughter) home |
Speaker 2: |
(laughter) mm |
Speaker 3: |
so we've |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
but we've got it (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
yes and then I left (pause) and I had (NAME) |
Speaker 3: |
yeah you left to have (NAME) |
Speaker 2: |
got worselves married and then left (pause) and then we bought a flat well we bought a (interruption) pair of flats |
Speaker 3: |
yes we both (unclear) because that was another funny thing that in those |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) (unclear) (interruption) no you had to buy (interruption) a pair |
Speaker 3: |
you had to buy the whole lot |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) |
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because they couldn't they reckoned that they couldn't work out who had the drains and who paid for (laughter) this that and the other thing didn't (interruption) they |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) yes that's right (interruption) it was the thing to do (interruption) was to buy a pair of them |
Speaker 3: |
they seem to have eh sorted that one out (interruption) now because you can buy one |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (pause) oh yes they can then we bought a pair of flats and we had an upstairs (interruption) flat |
Speaker 3: |
oh you had the upstairs one |
Speaker 2: |
but it didn't have a bathroom but we did have a bath but it were under a bench but |
Speaker 3: |
was that not at home |
Speaker 2: |
no |
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I can remember the (interruption) s seeing that bath under the bench |
Speaker 2: |
no that that that that was in our flat (interruption) in Simonside Terrace |
Speaker 3: |
that was in your flat (pause) mm-hm |
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water |
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I was new fangled putting a switch on and getting it hot water it was wonderful (laughter) so we did away with the coal fire (interruption) and had an electric fire so we didn't bother with coal in the flat |
Speaker 3: |
eh (pause) I can remember having the immersion heater put in at |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
but it as you say it was (interruption) a red letter day this this immersion heater was |
Speaker 2: |
mm (pause) oh it was lovely (pause) for all we didn't have a bathroom it didn't bother (interruption) me just because you just lifted the bench top up (interruption) |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) bother (pause) (unclear) (interruption) yeah |
Speaker 2: |
and I had a lovely new bath as well and my mam's bath had been a very old one (pause) I mean my mum's |
Speaker 3: |
were you still had an outside toilet (laughter) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
I used to have an outside toilet but the |
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) (pause) no well (interruption) my dad's hasn't got a lid on |
Speaker 2: |
and then we had a tiny little a |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) oh yes (unclear) (interruption) so you never get a grant to do the place up |
Speaker 2: |
well we we could have (pause) the time we sold we were thinking of doing it we were applied or sort of |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) yeah |
Speaker 2: |
well we did modernize it a bit you know put new doors on for them and what have |
Speaker 3: |
mm-hm (interruption) twelve and six a week |
Speaker 2: |
eh so they were moving so we took the bull by the horns and we (interruption) sold it |
Speaker 3: |
and sold it |
Speaker 2: |
vacant possession of both and we sold in fact they were standing virtually in a queue (pause) to come in and view (pause) (interruption) because we were selling both |
Speaker 3: |
crikey (pause) both (pause) both of them |
Speaker 2: |
uh-huh the (interruption) both of them and let them both |
Speaker 3: |
and let them for ten pounds a week |
Speaker 2: |
yes because they could do that then (interruption) so we didn't bother with the grant (interruption) |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) yes that's right (interruption) no because it's just (pause) (NAME) when she was at the poly stayed at a a series of flats |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) yes their grants (pause) out the back (pause) that's right (interruption) mm-hm (pause) oh yes I mean my mam's well even it was an upstairs flat my mam still had a stone floor in the what was |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) yeah (pause) oh yes (pause) oh right (pause) bathroom (interruption) yeah mam mam used to have a gas boiler but in the garage the gas tap again is still there |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and and what we also |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
ehm and it it it I I wanted to keep it |
Speaker 2: |
well you should have kept that |
Speaker 3: |
but but (NAME) would throw it away because we weren't quite sure what to do with it but it had ehm (pause) it was a patent (pause) splash |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because it had a rim that |
Speaker 2: |
yes |
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so the splash didn't come out patent splash something nineteen thirty four |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
stamped on the bottom and she used to go out and (pause) poss in that I can not remember what we've got we must have got the first washer about nineteen forty five I think (pause) proper (pause) washing machine |
Speaker 2: |
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(interruption) she got a (interruption) well we we as I can remember as you say mam having the boiler and how she used to get these |
Speaker 2: |
that's right |
Speaker 3: |
and heave it (interruption) all out and put it in the poss tub but when she got the washer because it was it didn't have a heater in the washer it was just just a an agitator she used to boil the stuff up in the boiler and carry it through into the house in a in a big basin and and tong it |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) all out from one to the other (pause) mm-hm (pause) mm-hm (pause) mm-hm (pause) yes that's right (interruption) yeah |
Speaker 3: |
and then when you'd done all that you could wring there was electric |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) yes (interruption) yes well my mum went did the same I mean was just a a reasonably small person as well I mean |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
being born during the war but never mind ehm (pause) but my mum used to wash like that with this a one that you used to swing the handle and it had a wringer but you had to turn it (pause) oh it used to be hard work |
Speaker 3: |
oh yes it used to it used to |
Speaker 2: |
and there was never such a thing as a fridge either (interruption) we used to just have a pantry and everything used to stay in that pantry everything |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) oh no (pause) pantry with (interruption) did you ever have one of these (pause) cupboards with the (pause) the ehm (pause) mesh front that you used to keep your meat in (interruption) so that the |
Speaker 2: |
no we just had the pantries |
Speaker 3: |
I can't remember |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) I can remember mm-hm (pause) mm-hm (pause) well the old pantry used to have a window (unclear) (interruption) but that had a s like a sort of mesh up to stop so you the wind the (pause) air got in |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) yes (pause) that's right the pantry had a mesh up (unclear) (interruption) that's right you had to (interruption) you had to |
Speaker 2: |
you had to have (pause) in your pantry (pause) mm (interruption) but I mean everything stayed in there all the meat and everything |
Speaker 3: |
yeah (pause) there's still pantries still at at forty four |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
mam used to put (pause) always used to put all the leftovers in little bowls (interruption) because of course after the war well during the war you never ever threw anything away (interruption) |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) (unclear) (interruption) oh no no mm |
Speaker 3: |
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mm |
Speaker 3: |
because it kept quite cool (interruption) I mean our pantry was sort of (pause) on the east side of the house wasn't it sort of in (unclear) (interruption) |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) oh yes (interruption) well you see we got all the |
Speaker 3: |
yeah our pantry was always quite cool I can remember (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
well it didn't do us any harm anyway |
Speaker 3: |
no well of course (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
the milk used to have to stand in the hot weather we used to stand the milk in a a bucket full (interruption) of cold water |
Speaker 3: |
full of cold water with a cloth over (interruption) the top |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) uh-huh to try to keep it cold |
Speaker 3: |
yes to |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 3: |
because nobody worried about it (laughter) did they |
Speaker 2: |
no well all this they'll eat not even the fat off the meat I mean if we got a nice piece of beef and it used to get all that |
Speaker 3: |
yes we used to have it on bread (interruption) dripping and bread |
Speaker 2: |
oh lovely dripping and bread with the black (interruption) bits (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
oh yes (pause) really tasty dripping and bread and and another thing that that's come up since dad died my sister in law said it always used to infuriate her that my mother used to give the boys |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) mm-hm (pause) it was uh-huh (pause) well you yes (pause) sugar (pause) yes (pause) yes lovely (interruption) well you couldn't get sweets |
Speaker 3: |
no (interruption) no |
Speaker 2: |
and somewhere along the line my mam always seemed to manage to have get the butter and her sugar |
Speaker 3: |
I don't (unclear) we we mam used to do things like mixing the marge and the butter together so that you didn't know the difference as well |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (interruption) but she used to |
Speaker 3: |
I can remember that |
Speaker 2: |
well I always used to have cocoa she used to mix cocoa and sugar |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) (pause) you used to lick your fingers |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) yes and I I used to get that (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) (pause) yeah we used to (interruption) have that |
Speaker 2: |
because that was the only way they could have well you couldn't get sweets |
Speaker 3: |
we used to have that's like (interruption) cocoa and sugar |
Speaker 2: |
and when I were pregnant with our (NAME) (interruption) I had a craving for cocoa and sugar and I used to have to mix myself just a little egg cup full (pause) and |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) yes (unclear) (pause) (interruption) quite (unclear) for that my my mam used to sometimes make us butter and sugar the same way mixed together into a sort of paste that you could eat with a spoon |
Speaker 2: |
and you know it's not so long ago when my mum died well I'm saying not long ago (pause) mm fifteen years |
Speaker 3: |
yes I can remember (interruption) that it used to come in the blue bags |
Speaker 2: |
well she still she had all sorts stored away in her sideboard tea sugar |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) (unclear) (pause) (unclear) (interruption) I don't see why there should be a sell by date on |
Speaker 2: |
well (pause) there's a sell by date on most things |
Speaker 3: |
yeah I know there is |
Speaker 2: |
I mean even her tins of (pause) meat and things that she'd saved and (pause) we used to have a good meal with she used to store (pause) and I'm afraid I'm a bit like my mam now I think I maybe have about fifteen tins of corned beef at the moment in my pantry |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) oh no |
Speaker 2: |
because I'm very much like my mam |
Speaker 3: |
yeah |
Speaker 2: |
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Speaker 3: |
(unclear) if you did if you had a few points spare I suppose you went round and bought a tin of something nice for a treat (interruption) because it used to be a big treat in our house a really big treat to get a tin of peaches |
Speaker 2: |
I'm a storer I'm afraid oh yes |
Speaker 3: |
you got peaches on your birthday you used to open a tin of peaches on your birthday and that was (pause) |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) true (pause) I can remember not ever ever well I can't when I was a child I had a a toy for my Christmas tree and I used to always think it looked like a baby's bottom (pause) because I had never ever seen a peach and it was actually a peach |
Speaker 3: |
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and for years and years and years when I used to look at it I used to think it as a baby's bottom |
Speaker 3: |
because it was |
Speaker 2: |
because I had just (interruption) never ever seen a fresh peach |
Speaker 3: |
yeah no never seen (pause) or a banana come to that |
Speaker 2: |
no no and I've still got (pause) that baby's bottom |
Speaker 3: |
that baby's bottom |
Speaker 2: |
yes yes my Christmas tree I still have it |
Speaker 3: |
mm but you see that's another thing that that I found about the war is I don't like bananas and I don't like coconut |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because partly I think it was because (pause) mam and dad always used to say 'oh wait until the war's over and you get a banana' and I think I was |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and they just (pause) weren't really as good as all that (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
no no and toys as well I've still got a tiny little little (pause) celluloid tiny little fairy that I believe came out of Christmas |
Speaker 3: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 2: |
and I've still got eh a tiny little one and a tiny little teddy bear and they go on the Christmas tree as well I don't know how old they are |
Speaker 3: |
well I suppose they did come out of crackers it's like like everything else I mean in those days you got |
Speaker 2: |
yes it was a long time ago mm |
Speaker 3: |
like when Woolworth's used to be a threepenny and sixpenny store |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because I can remember (pause) in the war when I would say 'why does it say a threepence and sixpenny store' mam and dad used to say 'well because everything in Woolworth's is less than sixpence' |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and I don't think it ever was actually threepence and sixpence well obviously there's some things that were threepence and sixpence but |
Speaker 2: |
mm |
Speaker 3: |
yes I I've actually we've had quite a lot of fun lately because of course with with dad dying and clearing the house we found quite a lot of nice things there but also (pause) we had stuff of (NAME)'s up in the loft and (NAME) was determined she was going to take it to Australia with her he said she's not a a fool we've kept it for thirty years you know |
Speaker 2: |
yes I know |
Speaker 3: |
but because she's going to |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (pause) mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and a a table with four four legs and a and a little wardrobe and this had a teeny weenie little coat hanger in it |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
which I thought was absolutely wonderful |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
but it was all (pause) you know really nice furniture made of wood it's probably worth a fortune now |
Speaker 2: |
most (interruption) probably |
Speaker 3: |
but we found |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (pause) mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
so I've sort of sorted it all out and wrapped it back (laughter) with her toys |
Speaker 2: |
oh no no |
Speaker 3: |
got it upstairs some of it the the table with all the legs with the with the glue going |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
all the legs are falling off the table which had happened (interruption) to some of the (laughter) tables (unclear) in father's house (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
yes mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because (NAME)'s that's another of the things (NAME)'s doing at the moment is (laughter) sticking together all these (laughter) (interruption) tables from my father's house (laughter) they did it did they just he must have just left them stand there since my mother died twenty years ago and one of them in particular had all the family photos on the top and the four legs were sort of (laughter) splayed out like |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) (pause) yes (pause) mm (pause) mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
but then I don't think that I (pause) so yeah we I mean we used we didn't have a lot of toys when I think looking back |
Speaker 2: |
no no I didn't |
Speaker 3: |
nothing like |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 3: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 2: |
at Morton I had all all the neighbours were aunties and uncles you know I called them auntie and I had an auntie (NAME) and uncle (NAME) downstairs and they had a son (NAME) he was very good with woodwork and he made me a shop in the back bedroom it used to be my playroom and it was this |
Speaker 3: |
over |
Speaker 2: |
and it's actually it's just a few well maybe over the last fifteen years twenty years I've actually stopped going under the bed clothes at night when a the planes come over low or covering my |
Speaker 3: |
something that frightened you |
Speaker 2: |
frightened me when I were young |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) and |
Speaker 2: |
and the sirens (interruption) when they used to go off and then Parson's or one of the factories used to use that (pause) for ehm (pause) finishing |
Speaker 3: |
oh sirens (pause) yeah (pause) there's still there's still there's still a siren goes off I don't at (unclear) I don't know |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
but that always |
Speaker 2: |
reminds me |
Speaker 3: |
stops me in my tracks |
Speaker 2: |
yes well it's strange because where I'm living now obviously at RAF Boulmer eh (pause) (interruption) actually it's stopped it has actually stopped |
Speaker 3: |
oh it's a it's a heart stopping sound |
Speaker 2: |
mm |
Speaker 3: |
yeah we can look up because on the is is Boulmer not one of the places they're running down |
Speaker 2: |
yes (laughter) i it could well be |
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
they've altered everything recently (interruption) they've eh put a lot of new |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) could well be that (pause) that would get you out of bed (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
it doesn't seem to be happening anymore |
Speaker 3: |
I can't I can't remember a lot about the war we had a later on in the war we used to have one of the I don't know which one but the the shelter that was a big solid |
Speaker 2: |
no I don't know the names |
Speaker 3: |
ehm we had one in the bottom of the garden because the guy next door (pause) well again just lately he's been saying was his house built a lot later than dad's because it's an entirely different pattern and I said no because I can remember the people from the house next door |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
four bunk beds in the shelter and when the sirens went we used to be I can remember being taken out to the shelter |
Speaker 2: |
well we had (interruption) one in in our yard that we used to share the upstairs and downstairs |
Speaker 3: |
but ehm (pause) and downstairs |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) in the street yeah |
Speaker 2: |
there were front ones and I don't know who used those but (interruption) obviously we had our own |
Speaker 3: |
that's right I can remember them |
Speaker 2: |
but there were the big ones in the front street as well |
Speaker 3: |
I can remember them all being built up in the streets when I was young going down into Heaton and (interruption) seeing those yes they had the same sort of ones in the ehm the school |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (pause) mm-hm (pause) that's right |
Speaker 3: |
at Cragside |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
they wouldn't have been very much use because there were only sort of two courses of bricks weren't there |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
a bit bloody stupid really because if you hit hit one of them (pause) well there was a place I mean (NAME) remembers a lot more about the war and there was a place in North Shields where they hit a shelter |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
just flattened it down and he can remember that happening |
Speaker 2: |
well of course with living in Heaton you know they they bombed the eh railway |
Speaker 3: |
that's right |
Speaker 2: |
because they thought it was the Tyne so they were quite eh we we were actually quite near it all |
Speaker 3: |
well they bombed the school |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
apparently they bombed that and I'm again we've just been telling the guy the estate agent who came to see dad's house (pause) that there's some cracks in the wall you see and he said he didn't like the look of those cracks and so I said 'well it was the bomb' and he said |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
I said 'oh yeah the bottom of the street' you know you know where cr where Cotswold comes (laughter) down to the bottom and Cleveland goes right across |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm (pause) that's right |
Speaker 3: |
just across the corner at the bottom of Cleveland it took took (pause) a double semi two semis |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
flattened but I wasn't there then that was early in the war when we were evacuated |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
we were evacuated to eh (pause) Appleby we were I can re very few things I can remember about that (pause) ehm and I can remember |
Speaker 2: |
well I can't really remember as I say I (interruption) (unclear) the war |
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) because I can remember (NAME) being born which was thirty nine |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
so there's (pause) occasions as you you'll be the same with your remembrances of the war |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
they'll just be these hazy |
Speaker 2: |
little bits |
Speaker 3: |
every so (interruption) often bits |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm well I was born in forty so |
Speaker 3: |
|
Speaker 2: |
yeah |
Speaker 3: |
and eh |
Speaker 2: |
and my dad he didn't go into (interruption) the (unclear) because he was working at Vicker's making tanks so he wasn't eh he didn't go to war (interruption) |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) no because he (interruption) no well I didn't know in that sort of way it didn't affect me very much because I didn't know |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because as I say my father was (pause) was not fit with having this duodenal ulcer and my uncle (NAME) worked at Parson's so he he didn't have to go did you ever meet my uncle (NAME) he always used to |
Speaker 2: |
(NAME) |
Speaker 3: |
used to work in the test house |
Speaker 2: |
I can't remember |
Speaker 3: |
a charge man |
Speaker 2: |
I can't remember |
Speaker 3: |
ehm (pause) he didn't have to go and I don't know why my other uncles didn't have to go (unclear) the only one that went to war was my uncle (NAME) but he was a a regular airman he was in the RAF |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
as his career |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 3: |
did he not work at Parson's before he left |
Speaker 2: |
well (pause) he was at Parson's when I were at Parson's he were there I don't know how long he'd been there before |
Speaker 3: |
so he would he he sort of (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
but he was a motor mechanic so |
Speaker 3: |
mm perhaps he'd been in the |
Speaker 2: |
(unclear) I don't know I don't know (interruption) I've no idea |
Speaker 3: |
garage (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
I've no idea |
Speaker 3: |
I suppose a thing like a motor mechanic would be more important in the army than (interruption) out of it |
Speaker 2: |
oh it would yes but he (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
(unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) he was in the army (interruption) I can remember him coming home from war one day and I was always very very pleased to (pause) and I virtually rubbed the skin off my cheeks to get rosy cheeks for my uncle (NAME) coming home |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
(laughter) I had great sore cheeks (laughter) |
Speaker 3: |
oh |
Speaker 2: |
silly little things |
Speaker 3: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 2: |
yeah (pause) |
Speaker 3: |
stuck |
Speaker 1: |
no no oh no |
Speaker 2: |
are you just about asleep |
Speaker 1: |
mm |
Speaker 2: |
are you just about asleep |
Speaker 3: |
yes she's having a lovely time listening (laughter) (pause) sitting there doing nothing |
Speaker 2: |
yes so |
Speaker 3: |
as I say (NAME) remembers all (NAME) has some fascinating stories about living in Tynemouth because of course Tynemouth really took it |
Speaker 2: |
oh yes |
Speaker 3: |
ehm (pause) because this another one of the things of people today that really gets me down when I think of the way that we and all the |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
the guns would start and then the planes would come over |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and every morning |
Speaker 2: |
mm |
Speaker 3: |
and he once found a bit of shrapnel like this you know eh because dad had a bit of shrapnel I don't know whether it was the same time as this famous bomb (pause) but it had been it landed in our garden |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
because his father was a bit of a (unclear) ehm (pause) and (NAME) was a delivery boy with his bike you know with the the eh (pause) basket in the front which |
Speaker 2: |
(NAME) used to deliver well the cobbler (pause) that used to do all the shoes Gordon's at the top of Trewhitt Road (pause) he used to collect all the (interruption) shoes |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) (unclear) (interruption) they don't get that anymore if you (laughter) want to get your shoes you've got to jolly well go and collect them yes |
Speaker 2: |
I know (pause) got to go and collect them yourself that's right |
Speaker 3: |
oh no but there was and anyway this morning (NAME) had was was cycling along and he saw this box in the middle of the road you see and being a lad he got off his bike and went and |
Speaker 2: |
uh-huh I bet |
Speaker 3: |
so he had his cheese yeah and there used to be lots of jobs for people didn't there you know |
Speaker 2: |
oh yes |
Speaker 3: |
there used to be a bit |
Speaker 2: |
yes |
Speaker 3: |
the only thing that you can do now |
Speaker 2: |
yes |
Speaker 3: |
I can remember delivering papers with the lads when I was a teenager but I suppose (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
well my mam would never let me do that |
Speaker 3: |
no well my mam didn't let me do that (laughter) either |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) no |
Speaker 3: |
but I did you used to get you used to get to get a bob a shilling a day and half a crown on a |
Speaker 2: |
well I can't remember I didn't do anything like that I used to go to the pictures the Escala on Chillingham Road |
Speaker 3: |
I bet you didn't get in for a jam jar though did you |
Speaker 2: |
no |
Speaker 3: |
no (laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
I had to pay (interruption) (unclear) had to pay |
Speaker 3: |
our dad used to get in for a jam jar |
Speaker 2: |
yes so did my mam and dad |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
they used to sit in the (interruption) (unclear) |
Speaker 3: |
(interruption) they used to get in for a jam jar (unclear) (laughter) because |
Speaker 2: |
they used they used these changes to the pictures as well eh (pause) |
Speaker 3: |
a week (pause) oh (pause) do you know how much you used to pay I can remember (interruption) paying one and |
Speaker 2: |
I can't remember |
Speaker 3: |
one and nine it was at the Lyric when (interruption) we went to the Lyric (interruption) |
Speaker 2: |
(interruption) I can't remember (interruption) I can't remember |
Speaker 3: |
we used |
Speaker 2: |
but we always got a flea |
Speaker 3: |
|
Speaker 2: |
used to (laughter) always come out with a flea from the Escala |
Speaker 3: |
yes well that was the sort of place the Escala was |
Speaker 2: |
yes you always used to get a flea |
Speaker 3: |
dad can remember his mother taking the three of them (pause) because he there were three boys and she used to take them into the Escala and they used to sit on wooden benches at the front |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and she used to take |
Speaker 2: |
|
Speaker 3: |
we used to go to the Lyric as I say |
Speaker 2: |
well (NAME) and I did all wor courting in the Escala |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) |
Speaker 2: |
it was the only place to go you went upstairs in the eh in the circle and there were double seats |
Speaker 3: |
oh yes yes there was double (interruption) seats there |
Speaker 2: |
and in fact if you trust me we were the only ones in the whole of the circle (laughter) |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) (unclear) |
Speaker 2: |
in fact (laughter) |
Speaker 3: |
(laughter) (unclear) their money (laughter) I think it was the |
Speaker 2: |
there was nowhere else to go of course there was no (laughter) night clubs |
Speaker 3: |
no (pause) no |
Speaker 2: |
you either went to the Escala (pause) or you went to the Blacks Regal (pause) |
Speaker 3: |
yeah I know Blacks Regal we used to go to (laughter) the Blacks Regal |
Speaker 2: |
or occasionally to the Lyric |
Speaker 3: |
to the Lyric |
Speaker 2: |
ehm and that were it or eh (pause) dancing |
Speaker 3: |
yeah well that was it you see we used to go we used to go we used to be at the Saturday night hop at the at Saint George's Presbyterian |
Speaker 2: |
yes and |
Speaker 3: |
and we used to go there every well I used to |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
we used to go to church three times on a (laughter) Sunday we used to go in the morning then we used to all go down the Dene and have our cup of coffee in the Deep Dene Cafe |
Speaker 2: |
yes |
Speaker 3: |
and then we used to go back in the afternoon to junior church |
Speaker 2: |
mm-hm |
Speaker 3: |
and |
Speaker 2: |
well |
Speaker 3: |
after that |
Speaker 2: |
on Sunday I used to go to see my grandma that's my dad's mum on Sunday morning with my dad every Sunday come home my mam used to have the dinner on the table (pause) my nana my grandma had a garden in High Heaton |
Speaker 3: |
oh no |
Speaker 2: |
it was forbidden |
Speaker 3: |
oh |
Speaker 2: |
you just did not play out |
Speaker 3: |
play out on a Sunday |
Speaker 2: |
and being an only child I used to be bored to tears on a Sunday I mean there was no such things as tellies or anything and |
Speaker 3: |
oh |
Speaker 2: |
and |
Speaker 2: |
sheet beetle metre I beat it gate paint fatal later |
Speaker 3: |
sheet beetle metre I beat it gate paint fatal later I hate it eighty eight |
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