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Age Group:

71-80

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 14

Occupation:

Home Help (retired)

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Gender:

Female

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Gender:

Female

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well eh could you tell us first of eh where you were born please

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I was born in Newcastle

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were you whereabouts

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Liverpool Street

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yes whereabouts is that again

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(unclear) Percy Street but it's nowhere now it's finished

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it's gone now

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yes

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yes yes eh and ehm whereabouts else have you lived you know how long did you stay there

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well I was over there a long time I was bred and born in Newcastle

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yes

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and I come over here when eh I had the eh two babies I had (NAME) no (NAME) and (NAME) over Newcastle and when I come over here I had the third one

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yes

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I had (NAME)

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I see and you've just lived in this house have you in Gateshead

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all the time yes uh-huh I was down in Cowper Street first

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oh I see yes

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that's on Askew Road

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yes yes

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and then I come up here and I've been here ever since

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aye yeah eh which place did you like best to live in you know how did Gateshead compare with Newcastle do you think

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well I think they're both the same

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aye

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yes I made myself quite happy in Cowper Street

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mm-hm yes what about

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I was about eleven year there Cowper Street then come up here been here ever since oh (pause) oh it was quite nice at one time here but oh it's getting awful now

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oh we w what's wrong with it now like

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well they're getting all the little kids in

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aye

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oh and it's ridiculous they go and interfere with the gardens and everything

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(unclear) aye (pause) would you say that ehm you were fairly attached to Tyneside you know as a (interruption) place to live

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oh yes yes aye oh aye

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you would never move away I mean you've never been tempted to

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no I've never been away at all not from here

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do you think that ehm Tynesiders are very different you know from people from other parts of the country

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oh yes yes the Tynesiders are (pause) th they're friendly up here very friendly

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yes most people say that ehm (pause) whereabouts eh (pause) were your parents born please were they born in (interruption) Newcastle

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they were born Newcastle ehm I think my father was born in born in Durham somewhere

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ah yes and they all l and they both lived locally all their lives

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oh yes yes they did uh-huh

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and eh what was your father's occupation

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he was just a labourer well he was a crane man at Armstrong's

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aye yes yes ehm eh can I ask you how old you are at the moment

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I'm seventy six

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eh could you tell us ehm you know what what jobs you've done in your life sort of

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well I think I've mostly been I've mostly done home help

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mm well what did you do when you first left school you know

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I just went to I went to Saint (unclear) school in the Catholic school in Newcastle

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aye

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and eh I left school when I was fourteen

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yes

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and I just was at home

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aye

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because my mother was poorly and I was always kept at home

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yes

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but I've always gone out looking after people that's been poorly

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yeah

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sort of like a home help you know

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yes that's like working for the more or less for the co corp (interruption) for the corporation as it were

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no I just for myself

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just oh I see yes uh-huh

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I used to look after my two daughters when they were out at work I used to try and help them cook and clean and that for them

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yes

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oh I've always found housework all right

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yes yeah (pause) eh (pause) you were eh fourteen when you left school is that right

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yes

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yeah eh do you think you were glad to leave school at the time or not

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well I was

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yes did you not enjoy it very much

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well I liked school but it was getting enough because I was so long in the last class I was sick of it

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(laughter) yeah yeah

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there was nothing like what they have now for them in in my day when we were at school

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aye do you think eh education's better these days

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well it is oh yes education's better

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mm

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well there's nothing else for them there's no work or anything you know they've just got to stop at school

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mm-hm yes do you think it's ehm like a fairly good idea for children to stay on at school you know after (interruption) (unclear)

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oh yes yes because they're just running the streets wild

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yes yes

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I've a grandson goes to Saint Cuthbert's Grammar school

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oh aye that's where I used to go to school

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uh-huh two that's eh (NAME) was at Saint Cuthbert's Grammar school that's that's two grandsons I've had there

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yeah

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this last one he's finished his exams and he's just waiting for the results now

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oh aye what ex are they O level exams

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uh-huh

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uh-huh yes

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they have to wait that long (interruption) (unclear) get them

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oh yes it's about August sometime isn't it

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aye because he's eh if he hasn't passed his exams he'll not get back to school

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that's right yeah yes yeah yes mm

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but his father's going to send him for college education

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yes do you think ehm do you think there's anything wrong with schools now you know do you is there any way in which they've got worse since you went to school

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well not worse they're getting better

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yes

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you get better education and everything now

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yes you don't think ehm well discipline in schools for instance now do you think there's anything wrong with it

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well they've got to use a certain amount of discipline to keep them under

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yes

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but nowadays if you you see the teachers are frightened to do anything about children because they go to their mothers and then there's such a (unclear)

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yes (pause) most people think they're not strict enough (interruption) (unclear) these days (unclear)

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that's right oh that's right they're not

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you know eh looking back on your own education you know would you say that eh it had been worth very much to you in your life since you left school or (interruption) not particularly

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no it hasn't been much value to me you know that when I was left school you had to go straight to work that was the idea then because you had to help your family they were bringing bigger families up you see you had the next ones coming on

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aye

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he's eating it (laughter) no he's not

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actually he's playing with it I think

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it's a strawberry (laughter)

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cracker can't decide whether it's the sort of thing you eat or not (unclear) eh w you were living in Newcastle when you were fairly young yourself like when you were under twelve

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well I never come to Gateshead till I was eh I was (pause) well I was eh our (NAME) was just a baby when I came here to live and he's eh what is he now

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be about fifty years ago I'd say

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he's fifty fifty fifty four (interruption) fifty three aye two year old (unclear)

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nineteen twenty when (unclear) came here (unclear)

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did you eh did you think that it was a good place to live from your point of view as a child like did you (interruption) enjoy your childhood there

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oh no it was they were real slums then

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aye

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and the they they were real slums and they're just going back now to the three storey buildings you know we lived in a three storey

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that's right aye

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there was s six three on that side and three on this side and there was just the one lavatory in everything be a big yard and about s three lavatories for each passage

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yes

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oh it was very (pause) very awful

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did you notice that sort of thing yourself when you were little you know I mean lots of people say (interruption) aye

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oh yes yes oh aye we used to because when we got on a bit we used to think oh we used to be frightened to let anybody know where we lived at the finish

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aye yes ehm do you remember any of the like eh you know games you used to play or things (interruption) you used to do as a child

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oh aye

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yes

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tell the truth

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(laughter)

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(laughter)

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eeh aye we used to have to amuse ourselves there was no no things made for we then we used to play tredgy

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yes how do you play that

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in the s in the street with a kick the kick the block and we used to all run around get get around to the base

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yeah

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aye we used to play in the street you ca you couldn't gan anywhere else to play

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yes I know yes do you think do you think the kids still play like in that way now like or

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eeh no they're all oh kids are awful now

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(laughter) yes

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you can't speak to them when they do anything

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aye

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you get nothing but (unclear) oh and the the language is terrible off some of them

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aye

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get away

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do you think they're really a lot worse behaved than they were (interruption) when you were young you know

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oh yes aye oh yes we had parents that kept we down

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yes

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course they were none the better for that we found out when we got older but

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mm (pause) eh do you remember ehm what you used to call you know a game where one of the children has to chase the others to try to touch them

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oh aye

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what did you used to call that

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relievo eh (laughter)

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no I was thinking of a simpler game than that

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ehm

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you have to touch somebody and then when you've (interruption) touched them

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aye then you (unclear) they were on

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that's right

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aye I know I don't know what they what do you call that

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I used to call tuggy I remember

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tag

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tiggy

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tag tag

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tiggy aye did you yeah yeah and eh what did you used to say eh when you wanted to call a halt in a game you know when you wanted to stop a game or something did you used to cross your fingers and say (interruption) anything

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skinchers

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no we used to just say oh that's enough we've had enough

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aye you didn't have a word for it (laughter) eh

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skinchers

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that's what I used to say (laughter)

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skinchers (laughter)

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(laughter) eh still on the lines of what words you use for things like could you tell us please ehm just what you call each of the rooms of this house you know what your normal word is for each room

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no you just call it the bedroom and this was the kitchen

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uh-huh

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and that were the scullery and that was the front room

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aye that's right

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these offshots were the bedrooms

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aye

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we had no sc no sculleries like that (unclear) where we lived

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yes

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no sculleries at all and the water was outside

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aye and what do you call the thing that you're in as soon as you come through the front door you know what do you call that

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well some of them you come in and you open up you come in the front door and you open a door there and you're straight into your room

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aye but in this one you know where you've got (interruption) the (unclear)

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oh ahh just come straight in the kitchen that's the front room there the passage

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the passage

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passage

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uh-huh yeah and eh oh you happen to have one standing there what do you call that thing that's standing in front of the fire you know the sheet of tin that you use to get it going

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the blazer

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mm-hm yes yes ehm and eh to get out the back door you have to have to lift the (interruption) what do you call that

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the latch

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sneck

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yes ta ehm (pause) yes I call it the sneck as well (laughter) eh (pause) can you tell us please just how you like to spend your spare time you know what sort of things you like to do

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well I cannot do very much now

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aye

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but one time I used to (unclear) to look after my house and that was all just the work and the house

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aye

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always something to do

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uh-huh

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sowing and knitting and one thing and another

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aye

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plenty darning and all that to do

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did you did yous used to enjoy that like you know

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oh yes uh-huh

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wasn't wasn't really like work was it

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oh no it wasn't

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yes

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you kept that for your for your when you had nothing else to do you used to keep your knitting and (unclear) darning and all that

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mm-hm

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when you had nothing to do s sitting down that's when you used to do that

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yes eh do you eh do you watch television very much

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oh yes I like my television

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yes yeah do you watch it ehm you know is it usually on sort of the whole of a (interruption) of an evening or

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no eh from the from the news at six o'clock

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mm

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and if there's then an a good play on late late at night I watch that

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yes

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and generally about one o'clock when it finishes

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cannot drown the bugger out like

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(laughter) yeah

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eeh no when a when there's anybody in I must be watching the television I take no notice of the people that's saying

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yes eh what eh what kinds of things do you like to watch particularly you know (interruption) (unclear)

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I like dramas

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aye

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I like the dramas and cowboys

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mm-hm yes

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don't care nothing for the (pause) (pause) the what (laughter)

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wrestling

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oh aye yes

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(unclear) oh the wrestling

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oh aye (laughter) (unclear) I like the (unclear)

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Mick McManus (unclear)

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oh I like it when he's getting a hiding (laughter)

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(laughter) yes do you think the eh do you think the plays and that on television are very good you know do you think the standard of programmes is good

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well sometimes they're good but other times they're right off to they're just old ones any old play old films that they've used and they're just playing them back now

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aye yes that's true

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and I've seen the pictures of them

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what you saw them all when they were in the picture (interruption) houses

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uh-huh it's back up here

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yes (laughter)

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picture hall

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eh (pause) these are just a few questions about your opinions on some eh ordinary things eh what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know how do you think they should check them

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well I think their parents should check them

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yes

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but if they don't check them well they'll have to smack them

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yes

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I believe in smacking kids when they're not well when they're not doing as they're told

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aye that's yes if you can't get them to do what they're told you smack them

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if you can't do that well I think you have to threaten them and if that's no good well that's hopeless

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yeah

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we've got a few down here like that

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mm

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eeh they're terrible well it's a wonder some of them's not killed they play on the middle of the roads and the mother's sitting standing talking watching them never say (unclear) anymore

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yes and what about eh you know a young person of say sixteen or so what sort of control their parents should have over them

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eeh well th if they'll have a job to control them

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yes

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it's n you cannot do nothing with them

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yes

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you can't do nothing with them

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yes do you think they should try to control them you know do you think they should

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well I think their parents is encouraging

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aye

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they give them the key of the door if they're going out and then leave them

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yeah

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there's a house at Lobley it's terrible one of their young daughters is pregnant and the other one's fleeing along after lads all the time

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yes (pause) ehm going on to something different like and it is ehm a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't ehm which way do you vote

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well I vote Tory now

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do you

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uh-huh but I used to vote Labour

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aye what was it that changed your mind

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well the way they're all going on the Labour was giving too much away they're giving everything away they're you know as much money to everybody went on strike oh give them the money and that'll settle them

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aye

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and this is how we are on the day they're not going to get paid they're asking for (unclear) high prices

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yes

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(unclear) wanting ever so much now again and as one go and another starts you see just like a vicious circle going round

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yes what do you think about the eh you know the present government like how do you think they're running things

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well up to now he's not doing much

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yes (pause) but with the prices were

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oh prices are terrible eeh dear me it's te well I'm an old age pensioner and it takes me all my time to live

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aye yes I know (pause) ehm do you eh do you usually vote in every election you know say local government elections

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oh yes I vote oh yes I usually vote

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yes (pause) ehm do you ever think that eh you know a lot of people say that they vote in a particular way because of eh you know because they're working class people let's say or because they're not working class people you know eh do you think that's a reasonable way to vote or or or do you make your decision (interruption) (unclear)

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well oh no there's two or three round here they're just working class people and they always vote Tory

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is that right

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yes I used to be very strong Labour though

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yeah (pause) eh if we could ehm just go on to talk for a bit about the thing we are most interested in like that's the way you talk and so on and and what you think about it ehm firstly do you think that you ever change the way you speak according to you know the person you're talking to or any other sort of circumstances

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well I don't know I th y you do you do eh talk more polite like you get out of that old fashioned way of talking

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yes

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you know you say howay and all that but you get out of it I think when you get older

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oh I see you mean just in yes i it's not it's not a matter of sort of certain people that you would talk more politely to but y you just ehm

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there's some never gets out of the old fashioned way of talking

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mm-hm

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they still talk the old fashioned way

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mm do you think you do you think you have changed quite a lot like (interruption) in your in that in that way

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oh yes yes I've changed a lot in that uh-huh

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being more sort of do you think you were more Geordie you know when you were younger

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oh yes when I was young

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aye yeah why w why do you think it is that you've changed you know

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well I don't know it's just I've just changed and I was unaware I changed

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aye yes

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I just you know just

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yeah I think it it's definitely true (interruption) I think you know

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it's eh you know getting into different people you get to know different people and they're a little bit

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aye uh-huh yeah

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you just get like them and there you go on

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yes eh (unclear) ehm (pause) but you know say now r right at the moment do you think that eh do you think you always talk the same in all situations or do you think do you think you talk differently to different people

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well sometimes when you're gossip and you forget yourself and you just (unclear) talk Tyneside

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aye so how would you say you're talking now you know what sort of voice do you think you're talking in now

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well I don't think I'm talking very much I'm doing all right I think

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(laughter) is this just a s (laughter) yeah is this just a sort of normal voice (interruption) like for you do you think

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yes aye just the way I talk always

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okay eh do you eh do you like to hear people talking in sort of local accents you know do you like Tyneside accents

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oh yes yes when we're gossiping we have a bit fun and we're forgetting that we're talking broad Tyneside

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uh-huh aye eh (pause) you know eh if you hear say s a young child talking in a very localized sort of eh voice you know if he said something like a've just fallen doon and hit me heed eh do you think you would correct him about it you know I mean if he was sort of in your charge like

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well I would say you shouldn't talk about that you know but eh often get my my great grandbairns here

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aye

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and when they talk I try to talk polite because they they talk polite and all

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oh I see yes

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you have to keep them right you see

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mm-hm yes they never talk very Geordie do they

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no

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no mm ehm do you eh do you like you know other accents of England you know like say Cockney or Liverpool accents do you like to hear people talking them

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well I don't like the Cockney talk

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do you not

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na I like to hear the Liverpudlians when they're on the wireless when they're talking from Liverpool

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mm-hm yeah you know ehm (pause) eh you know the way the newsreaders talk (interruption) on the television like when they're reading out the news

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yes uh-huh

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eh do you sort of approve of that way of talking

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oh yes yes yes aye because you can understand what they're saying

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yes do you eh do you know anybody yourself that talks like that

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well there is one or two around the doors you just get talking to lot of people I meet that go to church and one thing and another and they stop us and they'll ask us how I am well they well they're quite nice when they're talking to us

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aye yes they talk fairly (interruption) like that

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yes oh yes

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do you think ehm do you think it would be a good idea if everybody talked like that

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well I think it would be better (unclear)

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do you

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yes if everybody was talking nice

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yeah y you don't think you would miss the sort of variety (interruption) of the different accents

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no I don't no

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what eh what sort of accent would you say that I've got from listening to us you know (pause) would you say it was li like yours or different

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well I think it's all the same

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aye more or less the same as yours (interruption) like

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as yours yes

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now ehm I'm just going to read out eh this list of words you see that I've got here that are all fairly local sort of words you know and I would just like to know eh firstly if you eh if you're familiar with them and secondly if you actually use it yourself you know eh bairn little bairn

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aye I say that yes I say that aye

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(unclear) eh bait

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mm-hm

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mm-hm eh bonny

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yes I've used that

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yes eh bray

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yes

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yes eh bullets

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oh aye (laughter)

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(laughter) aye eh clamming

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aye I'm clamming now (laughter)

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(laughter) yes uh-huh

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do you say that

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yes uh-huh

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eh boody

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oh aye

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yes ehm (pause) coin coin a corner

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uh-huh yes uh-huh coins

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eh cree

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yes

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yes eh fettle

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oh aye say bad fettle

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aye what about to fettle something do you use it for that as well

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uh-huh

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to fettle this yeah ehm gully

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oh aye (laughter) gully

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do you do you call that do you use that word now

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oh yes a big knife a gully

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yes yes eh howk

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oh aye (laughter)

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(laughter)

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yes eh lowe do you know the word lowe

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no

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no for a a light or a flame

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no

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no eh mense be more to your mense to get some work done

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oh I've heard that one

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(laughter)

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yes eh parky

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oh yes

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about your food

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uh-huh

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ehm varnigh

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oh yes (laughter)

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aye you use it

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oh yes uh-huh

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eh knooled

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oh aye (laughter) getting knooled

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(laughter) (unclear) is knooled (pause) eh now eh more or less on the same lines like I'm going read out eh a list of sentences for each one I'd just like to know eh whether it sounds like a normal sort of sentence to you you know eh like like whether it sounds like something you might say if the circumstances came up you know what I mean

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yes

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ehm eh were you wakened last night when I came in

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oh aye

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were you wakened yes yes eh I was still a bed when you called this morning

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yes I've heard of (interruption) that I've talked about that

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aye yeah you say that yeah (pause) eh he never gave us any

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oh aye

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yes eh do you not go there very often

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no oh I've heard them say (unclear) I've heard that oh yes I've heard

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yes eh they're useless them

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aye I have I've heard that many times

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yes eh me and John went to the races on Saturday

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oh aye

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mm-hm eh I might could manage it

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yes

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yes eh he wouldn't could have worked even if you'd have asked him

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yes

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yeah eh it's ower big to get through there

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oh aye

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(laughter)

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yes eh you know my cousin that her husband died

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oh aye (laughter)

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(laughter)

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(unclear)

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eh with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

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oh aye yes uh-huh

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yes ehm I'm going to stay with the son for the holidays

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yes

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yes eh they go to the pictures of a Sunday

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oh aye

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yes eh here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

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uh-huh

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uh-huh aye eh (pause) eh I think we're going to be soon for the picture

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oh aye (laughter)

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yes yes yes ehm (pause) would you mind stop talking

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oh aye (laughter) yes I've said that many a time

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do you want a cup of tea making

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oh aye (laughter)

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yes eh you know him that used to work on the railways

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yes

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yes eh he happened a nasty accident

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yes

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(laughter)

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yes eh I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

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aye yes (laughter)

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what about I wanted for to talk to you about it

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(laughter)

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(laughter)

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do you think you would say that

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oh yes uh-huh

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yes

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yes

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eh when did it happen you

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uh-huh

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yes ehm I've got money belonging him

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yes I've heard that and all

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(laughter)

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yes yes yes eh could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

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(laughter)

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(laughter)

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(laughter) can I take a laugh to mean yes

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(laughter) yes (laughter) (unclear) (laughter)

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(unclear) (laughter)

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eh I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

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mm-hm yes

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(laughter)

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eh it's all right for you you're used with it

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(laughter)

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yes

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eh we've been waiting of a bus

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yes

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yeah eh I think they're going to give him the job permanent

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yes

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yes eh I don't bother much about the television and that

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yes I'd say that

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ehm there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

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(laughter)

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(laughter) yes aye oh it's happened

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yes (laughter) yes eh many people were there there

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oh aye (laughter)

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eh where did you get it at

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yes

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yes eh never mind I'll manage but

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yes

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yeah eh never the wonder I couldn't get it to work (interruption) it's not plugged in

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that's right (laughter) yes

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never the wonder aye eh me and George is going to the town today

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yes

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yes eh Jack didn't think much to the race

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yes

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yeah

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yes

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ehm (pause) it's far too long this

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yes

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yeah eh how's your wife and family then

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yes

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aye eh (NAME) can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

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(laughter)

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yes (laughter)

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yes

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(laughter)

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yes you would still say that though would you

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mm-hm well I've got a son called (NAME) (laughter)

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yes

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you do say that (NAME)'s not coming the day (laughter)

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you'd say being as he's working late

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yes

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eh what is it he does for a living

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well he's a bricklayer

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(laughter)

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(laughter) oh (laughter)

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(laughter) that was another sentence I was eh (laughter)

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yes

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that's okay yes eh just light the fire on will you

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oh yes

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yes light it on mm-hm ehm I'll clout yous both in a minute

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oh aye (laughter) (unclear)

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eh how much have they offered we

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yes

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yes eh eh pass us one of those spanners

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yes

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yeah eh I've broke a plate

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yes

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yeah ehm I come this morning but you weren't in

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yes

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eh he done it all right

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yes

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eh I had forgetten to buy the onions

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yes

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yes eh he give us a pound for doing it

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yes

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yes eh we had went to the coast for the day

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oh aye yes

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yeah eh I seen Albert on Tuesday

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yes

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eh I'm not going to stand being tret like that

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yes

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yes eh that's what happens when you be naughty

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yes

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mm eh I'll probably see you a Saturday

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yes

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aye eh I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

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yes

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yes eh you've letten him get away

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yes

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aye eh my mother's keep coming in to see us

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yes

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yes eh we'll sharp get this done

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yes

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aye (pause) he's as Tyneside as what I am

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yes

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yes eh you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

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yes

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yes good