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Age Group:

31-40

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Tyneside - Gateshead

Education:

Left school at 14

Occupation:

Housewife (previously Sewing Machinist)

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(unclear)

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yeah do you think that ehm (pause) (interruption) do you think it's usual for eh men to be more broad than their wives (interruption) you know

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(interruption) what do you want to know (interruption) I think it is

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yes I think so as well

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I find they are (pause) broad I find they are but my husband he oh he's very broad he keeps saying eh ye knaa I say it's not it's you know

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(laughter)

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and what else eh I'll say it's not spelt that way I mean I go by the way it's spelt I mean I say aye and I you know there is a lot of words I suppose I do say Tyneside

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aye

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but these words they are you know I say it's not spelt that way it's not spelt that way and I'm teaching my little one to talk the way I talk

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yeah

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and yet he's doing it the opposite you know

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yes yes aye (unclear) it's a mixed effect on the on the (interruption) kids

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so he's picking both up you see and I say teach him to talk how it's written because now he's learning to read and he cannot understand why we say it a different way

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yes

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(unclear) in the book

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aye that they eh they learn to read in a very special sort of voice don't they

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they do you see

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children when they start to learn to read

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and they learn the way it's wrote

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yes

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and we don't we are doing it a different way in the Tyneside dialect

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yes

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aye

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mind he'll he he he'll almost certainly grow up talking Tyneside (interruption) you know because it's you know it's the way his friends talk you know

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probably probably probably

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no harm in that at all

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oh I don't mind I mean he can talk which ever way he has a mind I mean I'm not bothered really

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mm

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but it's just I think for school (pause) to you know to so as he'll not be in any trouble at school speaking properly you know

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yes mm

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now what do you want anything first are you wanting a cup of tea or what would you rather get to the tea first (interruption) eh

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aye might as well yes thanks

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have a cup of tea then you can do what you like settle there

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mm

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(unclear) it's funny weather isn't it eeh dear

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yes (pause) oh could I have one without milk in please

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without milk oh well I haven't put the milk I never do when I have eh eh anybody come because I like them to do their own (pause) you know

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ah oh that's that's very considerate of you most people you know they ask you whether you take sugar (interruption) but they always put milk in

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but but they put it in they put it in I know I've been to a lot of places and they put the milk in first and I don't care for it in first so just eh (pause) so you don't take milk just (pause) sugar (pause) do you just want it there do you can you manage put your sugar in (interruption) and then

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ta (pause) yes the way I go round is usually just to send out about ten letters at a time all in sort of near one (interruption) area

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in the area (interruption) like

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go round them all until I can get them all

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(unclear)

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eh mostly yes although it's eh you know there's some some people just never seem to be in it's funny you know you can call back dozens of times and

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well usually I go on a Thursday morning to the shops but I haven't gone today in case you came this morning you know (interruption) when I wasn't in I thought it would just be my luck to miss you this morning but otherwise I don't bother much (pause) going out Thursday morning's my shopping morning

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oh I see yes (pause) yeah yes

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are you going to have a biscuit

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huh

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cookies go on this is (unclear) rubbish mind that's his dinner table he has to have all there beside him

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oh hey I like this I like this picture

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well that was in eh Shepherd's eh you know down Gateshead

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yeah

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they were selling off it was after the Christmas and I think somebody had been painting them

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yes

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you know when they go into Shepherd's advertising the paints and that

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oh I see yes

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I think they had been painting it (pause) you see and it had been left standing and she was selling it and my little one was going mad for that picture he says I want that picture mam

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yes

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and eh I had to buy it for him but it's not we've always been going to finish it off but we've never finished it off

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yeah

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but he thinks it's lovely

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aye

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he thinks it's a lovely picture (unclear) cool off bit better (laughter)

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(laughter)

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now have you to be plugged in (unclear)

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no no it's eh works off eh off an accumulator you know you just have to (interruption) you charge it up the night before and then

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oh you haven't to be plugged in oh oh then you're set are you oh

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thought it would be a bit too much tape moves forward again right

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T L S G 5 6 (interruption) right

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ta eh well could you tell us first of all where you were born please

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on eh Hewit Street on Askew Road

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oh yes mm-hm

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Gateshead

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yes and ehm whereabouts else did you have you lived since then you know how long have you lived round here

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oh well I've lived on Askew Road all my life until ehm we were married and then I went as I say onto eh Tyne Road East and from there we got this house here

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I see yes so you lived sort of all round the same area in fact

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in the one area the Askew Road area practically all my life

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until you came up (interruption) here

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just this last four years we've been up here

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aye yes how did the eh how did those two areas compare with compare you know as places to live which eh which did you prefer

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oh I prefer up here

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yeah for what sort of things

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well I mean the air's better

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yes

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and the houses are better I mean we do have eh a cleaner place down Askew Road but I have nowhere to play just brick buildings brick back and you know walls and what have you where now I've got a nice garden and the view's better

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mm yeah did you think ehm did you think that it was more friendly down there than it is up here you know some people say that's a very (interruption) friendly area

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oh I don't think s well it was I mean but ah the older generation was more friendlier than what the younger generation is

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yes just

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they don't have time for you

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mm

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nowadays (unclear) are all working and everything but I mean in them days they weren't working

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yes

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all the women always sort of got together you know they talked together

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yes

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that's what I find it is now I mean the women the young ones are working they haven't got time for all this neighbourly business

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mm were there ehm a lot of people rehoused from the same area up here at (interruption) the same time as you

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yeah locally y you know not all in the one street but locally they are they're round about I have met a few of them you know round about that's (pause) come from that area

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mm

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yes you know

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mm eh what do you think of eh Gateshead as a place to live in compared with Newcastle what do you know do you think you would just as soon live in Newcastle

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no I wouldn't settle in Newcastle I like Gateshead as a place I mean it's improving every day and I mean in a few years time our children should benefit by it I mean it's a better place now than what it was when I was young

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oh yes (interruption) by a long way

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there is there's oh dear me I mean it looks as if well that they're doing this and they're doing that and they're not settling on one thing but I mean when our little ones are grown up it'll be lovely

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yes yes I think so and eh what do you feel about eh Tyneside as a place to live compared with you know I mean do could you ever see yourself moving away from Tyneside

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well the only other place I would go to would be is where my sister lives it's a little country place and that's the only other place I could (interruption) settle

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aye where's that then

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other than here down Berkshire way Oxford way you know that way on

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yes

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it's it's a lovely little place we go every year for our holidays and the first chance we get we go down there but as I say that's the only place I would settle other than up here

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yeah yeah do you eh do you think Tynesiders are different from people from other parts of the (interruption) country

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yes they're better people

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are they mm

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you couldn't beat them better people altogether than anywhere else only as I say this little village (unclear) I know all the people because I've been there quite a lot well I've been going about twenty year

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mm

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and I know the village people and I know them and they know me but other than that you can't beat Tyneside

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do you think they're more sort of (interruption) friendly

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oh yes

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aye

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doesn't matter where you go you find that they all like the Tynesiders

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mm-hm yes

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because I used to go to the football matches and wherever we went we were welcome because we were from Tyneside

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mm-hm mm-hm ehm (pause) whereabouts were your parents born please were they born locally (interruption) as well

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they were born eh Sunderland Road area

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in Gateshead

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Gateshead uh-huh

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and they lived in Gateshead (interruption) more or less all their lives

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mm-hm oh they were Tynesiders real thoroughbreds them

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(laughter)

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they were Tynesiders

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and eh what was your father's occupation

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he was a eh fitter at Armstrong's Newcastle

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aye mm-hm ehm (pause) could you tell us please in which age group you come into on that card if you could just say the letter

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what happens if you're in between

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oh I don't know just say either (laughter)

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well I'm in the middle of them two

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I see aye uh-huh (interruption) C and D

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(unclear) C and D oh well (unclear) (laughter)

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(unclear) it's more trouble than enough this it's just meant to be a polite way of asking people how old they are and (laughter) on what basis you occupy this house again it's presumably C is it

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yes it's C that's right

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ta eh is your eh husband from Gateshead as well

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yes

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yes born in Gateshead

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mm-hm

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aye mm indigenous family you are

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mm

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eh and eh how many children have you got

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just the one

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one lad

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a little boy yes

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how old is he

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six

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eh you don't work yourself at the moment

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no I've never worked not since I had the little boy

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no can you tell us eh what eh what jobs you have done in your life you know what ehm what did you do when you first left school

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a tai tailoress ehm I was on the s you know sewing machines then worked my way up and then I was a what they call examiner you know

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mm-hm

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then from there well been at it all my life practically on that eh (pause) same job

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aye

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until I well when I was married and I had to have the family I ga eh had to give the work up in the factory so after that I went ehm as it happened I I lost that baby and then I didn't want to work anymore but a friend offered me asked me if I would help out at Tyne Tees television in the kitchen staff

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mm-hm

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and I went there and I was just you know starting to get used to it when I had to give it up to have the little one and I've never worked since that was (unclear)

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(unclear)

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I don't bother now I'm a lady of leisure

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yes do you think you've do you think you've given up work for good now (interruption) (unclear)

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yes I (unclear) back to work why should I

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(laughter) mm

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no fear I don't believe in women working when they've got a family anyway

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no

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not if they can do without if if they're all right I mean and I find I'm all right I mean there's a lot of things I want but eh (pause) I'll do without I would rather have the pleasure of my little one and (pause) be here when he comes in from school

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oh aye yes yes

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I think that's the proper way

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yeah some women that I talk to say that eh you know that after their at least after the family have grown up they go back to work just to keep themselves busy you know (interruption) (unclear)

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yeah they do they do but eh I can find plenty to do I like knitting and sewing and all that sort of thing so I could find plenty to do I'll keep myself occupied and I'll do my garden I like my garden so no I'm not going to work

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(laughter)

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not that I'm lazy but eh no I'll eh (pause) I'll find plenty I'll keep going I think

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yes eh whereabouts did you used to work (unclear) you know when you were a tailoress

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the factory do you mean

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yeh

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the North Eastern clothing company was one and ehm wasn't it Wyman's the other one Wyman's I went to I've only been in the two places

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yes mm-hm whereabouts are they

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on the Team Valley trading estate

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oh they're both on the on the Team Valley

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uh-huh just across the road from one another you know

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aye yes

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I come out the one and went to the other one that's as far as I went

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eh (pause) how old were you eh when you left school

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fourteen

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mm

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we had to leave then fourteen

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mm

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when the war broke out I left

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aye do you think you were glad to leave school or not

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well I think I was really I mean them days they hadn't the things that they've got now

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aye

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I mean we just had to do wor lessons and that was it and now they're doing lessons and they are going to (pause) well sports and they're doing these outings they're taking them on outings and everything we didn't get anything like that we just got wor lessons and it was as dull routine that was it now I think they've got everything

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mm

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(unclear) hadn't (unclear) we were at school

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do you think there's ehm anything wrong with schools these days or do you think it's just all improvement you know since you went

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it's improvement

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aye

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improvement definitely

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you don't think that well discipline at school isn't what it used to be

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well it isn't but I mean it's up to the parents to discipline

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mm

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isn't it I think it is

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yes mm

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I mean if the parents don't bother well why should the school

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mm

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and I mean if they get disciplined at home they'll be all right at school

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yes mm this is one thing that you know most people mention to me they think that schools now they're not eh strict enough for the kids you know

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they think they should be stricter do they

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yes

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yes well maybe but I mean I mean I can't speak much because he's only gone since September

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aye

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I mean he's only six you know so I'll maybes complain later on

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(laughter) yes

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whether they're not strict enough well I might have something to say but eh up to now I can't grumble I mean he's he's just starting

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yes do you think that ehm you know looking back on your education do you think that it's would you say it had been worth very much to you in your life since you left school you know (unclear)

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wey

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or have you more or less just put it all behind you

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oh no I mean there's there's a lot of it you still think but now the likes of history and geography it never worked with me I don't know wh some might have been interested in it but I was never interested in it and of course to me I thought it was nothing but nowadays it's a lot because you can travel we couldn't travel

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aye (pause) yes

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well they need it all this geography and th that they need it don't they for their travel

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yes

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but I mean when we were little we didn't get (unclear) it was a waste of time

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yes yes

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it was a waste of time it was a waste of time to us as I thought then but not now I wouldn't I would say learn all you can (unclear) that line (interruption) you know

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yes yes

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but them's only two lessons I divn't like

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mm

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and I mean your sums and that well you (pause) you have to have the likes of that you have to have reading and writing to learn

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yes I suppose you (interruption)

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so other that that I used to think French fancy learning French at the the secondary school they used to be posh they used to talk French we used to say well they can keep their French but now they need if they're going abroad don't they

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mm

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I mean they're taking them abroad now from school

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mm-hm yes

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so they need it

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yes they ehm they us quite often teach French in the primary schools now as well don't they (interruption) (unclear)

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now I think they do uh-huh but I've never had anything to do with schooling you see because my little one I was forty year old when I had him well my sister's down the south she had her little boy when (pause) well away form home so I I mean I had nothing to do with the schooling you know for years in between there's a big gap in between what I heard what they were learning at school I'm just picking up now what they're learning at school I'm just finding out what they're what they're doing now that's the trouble

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mm-hm eh do you think you would eh would you always advise your own well son let's say

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mm-hm

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to stay on at school if he possibly could I mean after after sixteen would you advise him (interruption) to stay on if that's

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well I think so if he's inclined to be intelligent because I was just saying the other day when they are older they'll have to be intelligent to get a job the way things is going there's no work for anybody that's not intelligent enough

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yes

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and I mean it'll all be these eh computer machines and that well you have to have the (pause) knowledge haven't you

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yes

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so I mean I want him to learn all he can anyway for that reason

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(unclear)

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I don't think there'll be any work for anybody if they're not eh you know up to standard

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yes I know what you're talking about yes

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I don't think there will

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mm do you think ehm this goes as much for girls as for boys you know do you think education's just as important for girls and that sort of thing

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oh it's not so important I don't think for girls

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ehm eh (pause) you were living ehm when you were fairly young yourself when you were under twelve say you were living in in the teams

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uh-huh

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eh did you think that it was a you know a good place to live from your point of view as a child there you know did you enjoy your childhood

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well I enjoyed my childhood because I had eh parents that used to take we out we used to go what we called Washing Well Woods

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oh yes yes

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do you know where that is at Lobley Hill

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uh-huh

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well every weekend they used to take us up there there used to be about six families we all used to go up (pause) and have a good weekend up there you know on a Saturday or a Sunday permi weather permitting and then eh on a Sunday I've seen we all having races in the street the men used to organize races just amongst ourselves because we had nowhere else to play we hadn't anywhere else to go

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(unclear)

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and then another thing there was these jazz bands that's on now (pause) we used to have them down at Askew Road

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mm-hm

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and that was another thing that we used to have but other than that I mean eh there was nothing for you

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no

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so we had to make wor own entertainment

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yes

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and we used to go up Windmill Hills with a tent only a piece of of blanket and make a tent and take some sandwiches and a bottle of water and that was wor afternoon

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(laughter) yes

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on a Saturday but we had good times we seen that was great now they don't bother with the likes of that but we did

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no most people say (interruption) (unclear)

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we often gan on about it now we'll say we had some good times and all o wor families as it happened we were in a street where there was two or three families used to all do that on a weekend and the men they weren't working so of course they were entertaining we

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mm-hm

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they weren't working there was no jobs for any of the men (pause) then and we used they all used to stand at the street corner till th the little ones was ready and then off we would go take (unclear) for a picnic pushing all the prams and everything up to up to Washing Well Woods and we played in the woods till it till we were all tired out and then we come back home

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aye

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and that was wor outing we thought more of that than what they do now

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yes yeah do you think that ehm you know do you think you were happier then than what kids are now (interruption) (unclear)

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oh I think so

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mm mm

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they're all on the want now you cannot keep them going

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yes

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my little one I spend pounds on him and he he he keeps want want want want want every time you go out we didn't bother with wanting we were just out and that was it

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yeah mm

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we were just enjoying it but now you cannot keep them going

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mm-hm ehm (pause) these are just eh some questions about some of the words you used to use when you were when you were little probably eh what did you used to call eh a game where one of the kids had to chase the others to try and touch them (pause) and then if he touched a one then it was his turn to touch the to touch the others

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oh I've forgot that word

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I used to call it tuggy

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tuggy tuggy my little one's just starting to say it tuggy tug tug you're on

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(laughter) that's right (laughter)

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that's it tuggy aye that was the word tuggy

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aye and eh what did you used to say when you eh when you wanted to call a halt in a game for some reason you know when you eh say you wanted to stop and tie your shoelace or something and you wanted the game to stop did you used to cross your fingers and (interruption) say (pause)

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cross your fingers aye

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what did you have to say was there a word you used to say

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there was skinchers

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aye yes

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that's it skinchers

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and what did you used to call ehm the the glass things that boys flick along the ground

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marbles

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did you not have another word for them

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no I just knew them as (interruption) marbles

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just marbles uh-huh perhaps perhaps boys (unclear)

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was there a different name

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well I I used to call them liggies myself (unclear)

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now I believe my little one's using that word

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aye I know my father used to call them allies

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aye

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glass allies

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glass allies oh I think I've heard my dad call them that glass allies

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mm yes people have all sorts of different words (interruption) for these things

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uh-huh

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ehm eh still on the lines of what words you use for things could you tell us just ehm what you call each of the rooms in this house you know what your normal word is for each room

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oh wey you mean the bedroom sitting room and kitchenette

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this is the siting room (interruption) is it

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uh-huh and the kitchenette uh-huh

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and what about what you're in as soon as you come through the front door

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that's the call it the passage

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the passage yes

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some have it b eh different words for it but I just say the passage

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like the hallway

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the hallway they say the hall but it's still a passage to me (laughter) I suppose that's my bit eh Askew Road (laughter)

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(laughter) yeah some people always change it to a hall when they move into (interruption) a new house you know eh

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well I ch I changed from a scullery to a back kitchen

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ah yes yes (laughter) used to have a kitchen to a living room yes (laughter) eh ehm to get out of eh an old fashioned back door you have to lift the (pause) what do you call that

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the catch just the catch

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yes what about the the sneck do you call it a sneck no

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I have heard it called a sneck but we used to just say the the latch I can't remember I don't think I did

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mm and eh if you had a coal fire what do you call the thing that you

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the shovel

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stand no the thing you stand in front of it to get it going you used to have a sheet of tin that you stand in front of it

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oh the bleezer

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aye

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is that it the bleezer mm-hm

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aye that's one word for it yes and what did what did you used to call well what do you call eh cleaning the plates and things after a meal

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tidied up (unclear)

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well no actually puting them in the sink and (interruption) you know

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oh the washing up

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washing up

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uh-huh the washing up

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eh could you tell us please just you know how l I how you like to spend your spare time and that you know I mean when you get free time if you ever do that is

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well (pause) I do a lot in the garden I'm I'm a keen gardener since I come up here I like to weed it and that but eh I like to see my flowers growed and what have you and they laugh at me up here they say you're always in that garden I say yes but I like it and you're out of anybody's you're out of all the mischief you're in your garden you're not you cannot get blamed for getting into trouble

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yes

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other than that on a weekend when my husband's off we go for a run somewhere n now I like to sit at the coast just sitting (pause) watching everybody going by and all this that and tother

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yes

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but I'm easy pleased in that mind some people aren't but I am

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you've got a car then

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uh-huh so ehm we just take a little run and I tell you where I like Shields

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mm mm

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I could sit at Shields for hours we're there every Sunday I think

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yes

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the car goes itself

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(laughter) yes

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but other than that I'm quite happy in my garden

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yes what do you grow in the garden have you got any vegetables

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oh we've got all sorts in uh-huh

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aye it's useful that (unclear)

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potatoes he's got peas in this time that we're never had in

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mm

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you know pea swabs them ones

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aye are they difficult to grow

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wey they're about that height now they're canny on so if we get any pea swabs off them that'll be all right the turnips and that oh he's got beetroot in the radishes (pause) lettuce we had leeks in but they went to seed so he had to pull them out they were well you've got to be eh (pause) you've got to have the knowledge to feed leeks

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aye

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so they g all tell us like but eh nobody'll tell you what they use in case you pinch their (interruption)

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case you have their secret (laughter)

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in case you get the the leek shows you see

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mm mm

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they'll not tell you so we just stumble on and we just work on and suit worselves

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yes

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I mean it's benefit to me so

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eh do you watch television very much when you're when you're in

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in the winter I watch it but eh as I say in the summer we never bother with it we're just out in the garden back or front it's either the flowers or the vegetables

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(unclear)

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and if it's fine in the afternoons I go and take my knitting and sit in the garden so the television's not on

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it's not really even on during the (interruption) summer

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no not very much of the summer

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mm eh these are just a few questions about your opinions on things (interruption) ehm

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uh-huh

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what do you think that eh parents should do when their children misbehave you know what sort of action should they take

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thump them sometimes

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yes (pause) very often

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mine gets thumped well now I'm starting to send him upstairs and he knows then he's he's done wrong and he'll not come down until I tell him

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mm-hm mm

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and I've seen him you know I've seen his dad say to him come on come on downstairs (NAME) he says no mam sent us up so I'm staying here till my mam sa says I can come down so I think well there you are I mean he's only six he's learning now so I could just do that action

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mm mm

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just send him up there when I think he's been naughty and just send him up

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yes

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and it must learn him that he's done it so I'll keep that up until something else c till it's no good

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yes

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I used to thump him but it doesn't work so (laughter) (pause) thumps isn't always the the way to do it

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true true eh mm what do you think about you know a young person of sixteen or so do you think they should be more or less allowed to do as they want or not (unclear)

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well I think that's half the trouble today they're getting too much of their own way

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mm

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I wouldn't I mean I know I'm I'm speaking soon for mine he's only six but I'm not going to let him do as he likes and he's not going to set his cheek up to me the way I hear others setting their cheek up because I would box his ears

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yes

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there would be half the teenage trouble if they were boxed

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aye

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there would I mean they're just left to roam the streets and all this trouble and the then the mothers and that's crying I say well yous have asked for it

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mm mm

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there's one two or three doors down he's always in trouble but I mean their parents go out so what can they expect

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yes

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they don't bother with their family

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yes

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I mean if they were checked they wouldn't be such daft

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yes

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teenagers the way there are I would give them some work to do keep them o keep them occupied

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yeah do you think would you want to sort of eh be able to say what time they came in at night for instance

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well a reasonable time because I had a strict father and I had many a bat for not being in at nine o'clock and I was (unclear)

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oh dear (laughter)

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phworgh he's batted me all the way down the street (laughter) come to meet us come in come in nine o'clock and I was fourteen then

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yeah

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but I mean I would give them a reasonable time I mean I wouldn't let them come in late

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aye

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for a reasonable time or if they were going somewhere and I knew what they were going to be late that's all right but I had a strict father and I wouldn't like to be as strict as what he was

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yes

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I mean you don't these days we know I mean he had to be maybe in them days but by gum I had many a thump for being late

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mm mm eh going on to something else now and this is a question you don't have to answer if you don't want because some people don't eh which way do you vote do you usually tell people

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well I'll have to say it because I'm in the Labour party I've got my badge and I'm a one of the the members you know

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oh I see yes oh well that's that's I I've just joined it myself strangely enough

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uh-huh this is the committee rooms when they they're voting

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when the elections are on

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uh-huh

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aye aye I see yeah yes

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uh-huh have you been in the which where do you belong

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eh Bensham

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oh you're in the Bensham ward are you

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yes (unclear) ward

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uh-huh aye I was at a meeting on Monday night eh as a matter of fact (unclear) it was eh not for a eh everybody it was just for the delegates and that you know

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yes I was at the eh management committee meeting on Tuesday night

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oh

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for the it was just for the you know the first time I'd been there (interruption) (unclear)

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oh you've just joined have you I've been in about three year I think

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mm have you eh

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raining

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oh (laughter) (pause) have you always been eh you know fairly committed to the th to the Labour party

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well in my young days I used to go round the streets is that switched on

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yes

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oh I used to go around the streets you know when the man used to ring the bell and that and go around

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aye

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when I was only little I used to think that was good I used to go around with them and then as I got older I used to go to these meetings

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yes

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you know listening to the men fighting with them all and then (pause) I have sister she was keen and she joined but I didn't join she joined and you know the papers and that that they write for the election

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mm

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she used to bring them all home and we used to sit up till all hours writing them out and then she emigrated to New Zealand so of course I lost space with it all you know I sort of forgot about it and then when I come up here two or three doors further down they were I forget now what it was I think must have been an election or something so we were agitating for railings up at the bottom of the gardens they they put high railings so far and then they stopped

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aye

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well we wanted them up you see because anybody could come over your garden

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oh yes yes

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so they s they said well why don't you come to the meetings and state your case

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yes

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so off we the three of us went and then I was interested and I says eeh I used to be interested in these meetings so they asked we to join so I says oh I'll join I like anything like that

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mm-hm

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so since then I joined and we've been going as I say I'm the only one that left of the three of them that's kept it up

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yes

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and I'm eh chairman for the ladies section the women's section

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oh I see yes yes

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we go every Wednesday night ehm up at Wrekenton here

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yes

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oh we have a good meeting there's about seventeen attends now you know it's building up (pause) building up

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is that (pause) eh seventeen in the women's section

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mm-hm

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(unclear)

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well that's good

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very good yeah

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it's good because the other sections is all seem to dropping off but ours is building up

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yes

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so we're not doing so bad

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aye (pause) what did you think about you know the last Labour government did you think that they you know do you think (interruption) they carried out a reasonable eh

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I mean I don't know the circumstances that they had to deal with but I mean left a bit longer I think they would have been all right

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mm

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they just didn't get the chance

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aye

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they were just getting on their feet just sorting things out when they were put out I think if they'd been at it a little bit longer we might have seen a big difference

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yes (interruption) (unclear)

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we're a damn sight worse off since (unclear) them lot come in so

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(laughter)

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I hope them that put them in's satisfied with them

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aye I think there must be a lot of people regretting it now

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phworgh I'll say they are they thought they were clever but they're and he's not so clever as he made out he's never bothered hisself

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eh if eh we could just go on now to talk about about the thing we're most interested in that's the way you talk and that and what you think about the way people talk eh firstly do you think that you ever consciously change the way you talk according to you know the people you're talking to

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mm mm yes I do

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yes in what sort of circumstances

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well I tell you why I mean I do at eh where we go to Berkshire as I say for my holidays to my sister's now she talks they still say she talks Tyneside but she doesn't you know but it's the atmosphere and that and the people talking to you now they can't understand my husband when I go because he's broad and I have to repeat everything he says

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yes

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they can't unders so naturally I'm talking a bit like them

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aye

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and when by the time I come home I'm saying half of their words

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oh so you use it affects you (unclear)

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you sort of you've got to speak a bit like them and then by the end of y your holidays well you're practically

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you've changed

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you know you tongue is a little bit different (pause) you know

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do you think eh on a fairly long term sort of basis do you think your speech has always been the same during your life

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I think so

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same now as what it was when you were

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mm mm I think so uh-huh

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do you think that eh do you approve of people talking in Tyneside accents (unclear) do you like Tyneside accents

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I don't think I do really not to the the broadness Tyneside's all right but not the very broad this ye divn na and that oh I think it sounds terrible

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yes

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it does lower the I mean it's not a (pause) I don't know how to say it it's not necessary to talk like that I mean you can talk Tyneside without it

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aye you mean that eh you know

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not the very broad

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an accent like yours is it's recognisably Tyneside

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it is Tyneside

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but it's all right

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and I don't like this yoo know yoo know where yoo gooing and all this I don't like that way of talk I just like to talk ordinary and the way it's written down in black and white to read for you to read

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aye

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not eh this polite way of going on

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yes do you think people who talk like that are sort of putting it on

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they are I mean you don't learn it that way I don't think you do

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eh no but perhaps you

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you don't learn it your not lear you're not taught it that way

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some people learn it that way (unclear)

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course as I say it's where you come from isn't it

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uh-huh yes

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it's the area you come from where it'll be taught like

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yes that's why I say I think you know I think some people do learn it that way in the in the first

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mm mm you know when they say yoo know yoo know (unclear) you know

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yes

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it might be me it might just be me now I don't know but

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eh (pause) so presumably you would sort of correct your son if he was if he talks in very broad eh accent

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mm-hm (pause) I do

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yeah yeah (pause) eh (pause) you know when you hear the newsreaders on television

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mm-hm

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reading out the news eh how does their sort of accent strike you do you like that kind of speech

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well I think most of them's all right most of them I don't think there's many talks a little bit too much is there really not eh sort of putting it on is there there's not a lot of them does it there's one or two but

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mm mm

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I'll tell you who I don't like that girl on Tyneside eh programme

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oh

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what they call her

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I don't know because I I I don't watch television myself

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ohh dear me you'd think she had a marble in her mouth

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you mean does is she like very (unclear)

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she tries to talk put it on

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aye (pause) yes yes (unclear)

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you'd think she had a marble in her mouth

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I suppose the reason you think that is because she you know she was probably born with a not born but she started off with a Tyneside (interruption) accent (unclear) picked it up differently

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that's it uh-huh (pause) mm-hm

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whereas somebody like Robert Dougal's probably had the same accent all his life

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that's it mm-hm that's it

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do you eh do you know anybody yourself by the way who talks you know in that way fairly BBC ish

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I can't say I can like eh

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no not many of them around really is there

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no I don't think so not really

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yeah (pause) what would you say about ehm about my accent from listening to it now

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well I think you're more or less like myself aren't you

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(unclear)

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I mean you're not broad and you're not eh putting it on sort of you're more or less you are Tyneside but (pause) not rubbing it in that you're Tyneside but I mean you can go anywhere with it

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oh it's heartening to hear that I get quite a lot of people who deny that I come from Tyneside at all but I mean I would have thought it was fairly obvious that I come from Tyneside

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uh-huh oh yes uh-huh that's why I asked you whereabouts you come from because I thought you were about the same as what I am I think mm-hm

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yes I think so as well

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mm-hm

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eh anyway eh do you think you could just read that list of words for us please fairly quickly straight down

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oh just all the words down

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mm

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find mind fly bill well men head back farm wall daughter down take straight cold alone poor fire four tower path after earth year me field been new moon school revolution but none seven one long holiday rule book good maker wafer happy harry (unclear) Mary yes better something fall witch apple television absent realize Newcastle Seahouses method concert descend chocolate explain industry condemn tissue with and film

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thank you now eh I'm going to read out a list of words and for each one they're all fairly local words you know

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mm-hm

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I would just like to know firstly if you're familiar with it and secondly if you use it

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mm-hm mm-hm

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eh aside for beside

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yes

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you say it's just aside the fire

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yes aside the fire aye

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ehm bairn

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oh I often say the bairn I know that's broad like but Tyneside

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bait

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mm-hm I use that

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eh bonny

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yes sometimes

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eh bray

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bray

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bray for to hit

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no I don't eh no

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eh bullets

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for sweets well I used to but I don't now

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yes

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I think you grow out of that sort

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yes eh clamming

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clamming

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yes

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(unclear) I used to use it but eh

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used to but you don't now eh (pause) boody

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oh we used to collect boodies they're broken china we used to collect that

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do you ever hear it

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never hear it now

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because you (unclear) you never see any (laughter)

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never hear it mentioned now

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ehm (pause) coin coin a corner

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it's funny eh I eh my dad used to use that but I never hear it now my dad was a one for using it he used to keep saying I'll coin around that corner coin you know but I never hear it since he died and eh you know you don't seem to use it or hear it

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eh cree

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what's that for then

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eh w wh what you've got out in the garden (unclear)

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oh the shed

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aye

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oh no

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do you not

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no

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well ehm fettle

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oh I'll fettle that

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fettle something

:

yes I have used that yes

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eh gully

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uh-huh that's a knife isn't it

:

aye

:

oh I used to hear it in my young days but you don't think you ever hear it now you don't think you ever hear it now do you

:

oh my mother in law uses it (unclear)

:

does she oh I've never heard it

:

course I mean she's quite old (unclear)

:

an old person might still call it but I don't think they do now

:

eh howk

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no

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no you wouldn't use it eh lowe (pause) for a flame or a light

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no

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never heard it (pause) it's pretty rare

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mm

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mense be more to your mense to get some work done

:

oh I've often said that (unclear)

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yes eh (pause) parky

:

for when they're for their food and that isn't it

:

aye

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oh yes I've used that uh-huh

:

varnigh

:

I've heard it but I don't think I use it myself I don't think so

:

mell

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what's that for then

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a hammer

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na

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never heard it

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no

:

it's just men who use that I think

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mm-hm

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knool to be knooled

:

well I mean I have used it (pause) but I I was when I was little we used to say oh we were knooled when we were little but eh (interruption) well I mean you don't say it now really but I have used it

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(laughter) (pause) you don't hear it now very much do you not

:

no

:

now eh more or less on the same lines I'm going to read out this list of sentences and for each one I would just like to know eh whether it sounds normal to you you know

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uh-huh

:

and whether it sounds like something that you might say if the circumstance arose like

:

mm-hm

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ehm (pause) some people the trouble is some people insist on sort of harking back to their school days you know and eh

:

mm-hm

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remembering what they were taught about grammar when they were at school but (pause) you know I'm not interested in that I'm just interested in you know whether you think you could say it in ordinary conversation

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in ordinary (unclear) uh-huh and that's right in these days (unclear)

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ehm were you wakened last night when I came in

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yes I do say that uh-huh

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were you wakened eh I was still abed when you called this morning

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yes

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yes he never gave us any

:

mm-hmm

:

do you not go there very often

:

yes I've used that

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they're useless them

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yes I've used

:

me and John went to the races on Saturday

:

no I I would say it the other way

:

say John and I

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and I uh-huh

:

eh I might could manage it

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uh-huh yes

:

he wouldn't could have worked even if you had asked him

:

I think I would say that

:

it's ower big to get through there

:

I don't think I would say that

:

you know my cousin that her husband died

:

uh-huh

:

eh with the wife being ill I had to stay in and look after her

:

uh-huh

:

I'm going to stay with the son for the holiday

:

uh-huh

:

they go to the pictures of a Sunday

:

uh-huh

:

yes eh I was coming home on the train and if I didn't leave my coat lying on the seat

:

possible I think

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eh these ones are pretty big to them others

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possible uh-huh

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eh here she had left her pram standing outside the shop

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I think so I think I might say it aye

:

eh I think we are going to be soon for the picture

:

uh-huh

:

eh would you mind stop talking

:

yes

:

do you want a cup of tea making

:

yes

:

you know him that used to work on the railways

:

yes

:

he happened a nasty accident

:

mm-hm

:

I'll put the kettle on for to make some tea

:

mm-hmm

:

I wanted for to talk to you about it

:

no

:

no when did it happen you

:

no

:

eh I've got money belonging him

:

uh-huh yes

:

could you mind your head so as I can see out the back

:

yes

:

eh I'm going to get some wool for our Pamela a jumper

:

yes

:

it's all right for you you're used with it

:

yes

:

we've been waiting of a bus

:

yes

:

I think they're going to give him the job permanent

:

yes

:

I don't bother much about the television and that

:

uh-huh

:

there was all these bottles of beer what we had brought

:

well I don't know

:

what we had brought

:

what we had brought (unclear)

:

eh many people were there there

:

I don't think so

:

no you would say how many

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how many mm-hm

:

where did you get it at

:

mm-hm I've said that

:

never mind I'll manage but

:

I think I've said that

:

eh no the wonder I couldn't get it to work it's not plugged in no the wonder

:

sometimes I have said it yes

:

yes

:

no the wonder uh-huh

:

eh me and George is going to the town today

:

I would say it the other way round

:

yes eh Jack didn't think much to the race

:

I could do uh-huh I could say that

:

eh all the caravan sites are good and I've stayed on them nearly all

:

mm-hm

:

they'd not seen it

:

they'd not seen it

:

they'd not seen it

:

no I wouldn't

:

you wouldn't say

:

they hadn't seen it

:

they hadn't seen it you know mm-hm it's far too long this

:

well I do say that sometimes I think

:

how's your wife and family then

:

yes

:

yes Joe can't come tomorrow being as he's working late

:

no I'd just say he was working late Joe couldn't come like

:

what is it he does for a living

:

yes

:

yes he wants his wages paid immediately

:

yes

:

eh just light the fire on will you

:

yes

:

I'll clout yous both in a minute

:

(laughter) yes

:

how much have they offered we

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not we

:

no (pause) eh pass us one of them spanners

:

aye

:

eh I've broke a plate

:

aye

:

I come this morning but you weren't in

:

came

:

you would say came would you

:

I think so

:

he done it all right

:

uh-huh

:

eh I had forgetten to buy the onions

:

yes

:

uh-huh he give us a pound for doing it

:

yes

:

we had went we had went to the coast for the day

:

well I could do well yes

:

I seen Albert on Tuesday

:

yes

:

yes eh I'm not going to stand being tret like that

:

yes I probably would say that aye

:

yes that's what happens when you be naughty

:

that's right (laughter)

:

I'll probably seeing her Saturday

:

yes

:

I doubt he'll have to stay in hospital for a long time

:

yes

:

ehm you've letten him get away

:

yes I've said that before

:

my mother's keep coming in to see us

:

yes

:

we'll sharp get this done

:

yes

:

he's as Tyneside as what I am

:

(unclear) probably I generally say he's (pause) more Tyneside (unclear)

:

(laughter) would you say he's more Tyneside than what I am

:

he's more Tyneside than what I am mm

:

(unclear) you used to sweep the floor and us used to wash the dishes

:

we used to wash the dishes

:

and eh nearly finished now could you give us eh the opposite of I'll be going there this week

:

I would sort of like ehm

:

eh like (pause) I'll not be going there this week or I won't be going there this week

:

I won't I would say uh-huh I won't be going uh-huh

:

right the opposite of he's got some

:

he's got none

:

ta eh the opposite of he's seen that picture

:

he's seen that picture you mean he (pause) he hasn't seen that picture oh that's it yes

:

eh the opposite of you're working late tonight

:

you're not working late

:

aye eh the opposite of I gave him one

:

I didn't is that it

:

ta eh suppose you went up to somebody in the street to ask them for a match what would you say

:

have you got a match please

:

ta eh could you just finish off this sentence in a way that seems rational eh I couldn't get it done yesterday but I'll do it

:

do it today

:

ta

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is that right

:

that's it