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Speaker 1:

interviewerY10i025

Speaker 2:

informantY10i025a

Age Group:

31-40

Gender:

Female

Residence:

Wearside - Sunderland

Education:

Further Education

Occupation:

Account Manager

Speaker 3:

informantY10i025b

Age Group:

31-40

Gender:

Male

Residence:

Wearside - Sunderland

Education:

Further Education

Occupation:

Self-employed

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Speaker 1:

Em, yeah, do you think the internet is a good or a bad invention?

Speaker 2:

Good

Speaker 1:

Good. Do you both use it a lot?

Speaker 3:

No. I think it's rubbish

Speaker 2:

(NAME) (interruption) uh

Speaker 1:

Wh- (interruption) Why's that?

Speaker 3:

I just don't like it. I don't understand (unclear) I don't understand these social network sites. (interruption) Why would you want to put all of your details for all world to see

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Do do you not think it's a good way to keep in touch with people or

Speaker 3:

No. Mobile phone

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Text

Speaker 1:

Do you think if you had Facebook or something, you'd keep in touch more with the people that you met in Australia?

Speaker 3:

(cough) Probably yeah but

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I probably would

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Do you think (pause) so you think like the internet's got more bad points than good?

Speaker 3:

Yeah definitely

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I think it has

Speaker 1:

And what do you think?

Speaker 2:

Well I use it for work (pause) and socialising

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em and I couldn't do my work without the internet

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) So and we couldn't start our own businesses without the internet either (interruption) so, for working purposes and you know, kind of marketing and getting your business, that's the way forward at the moment (pause) but I agree with (NAME), I mean (pause) on social networking sites and stuff like that, maybes (pause) like under eighteens or under sixteens then it's not (pause) a good thing.

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah (unclear)

Speaker 1:

Yeah em do you have Facebook?

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Do you use it a lot? (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Do you think it's a good way to keep in touch with your friends?

Speaker 2:

Yeah definitely

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em, especially like pictures and stuff with us living away, like all my friends and (NAME)'s friends today are at a christening

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

So I'll get to see the pictures even though it'll probably make us (interruption) jealous

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Yes, we were invited by the way

Speaker 1:

Yeah you just didn't go (laughter)

Speaker 3:

We haven't (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Em yeah so is that, what would you say your main method of communication is?

Speaker 3:

Phone for me

Speaker 1:

Phone

Speaker 2:

Yeah phone

Speaker 1:

So would you say that's a bad thing about technology? Like, it, you're less inclined to see people face to face?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, (interruption) it is

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Yeah it is

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

All right em, so I'm just going to ask you questions about your education. Did you go to a private or a public school?

Speaker 2:

Em mine was (pause) public all girls catholic school

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what about you?

Speaker 3:

Eh public. I was going to say private like (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

Public

Speaker 1:

Eh did (interruption) you enjoy school?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (cough)

Speaker 2:

Yes I did

Speaker 3:

No I hated it.

Speaker 1:

Why?

Speaker 3:

Well I didn't hate it but the first two years I hated it

Speaker 1:

Yeah is that primary school or secondary school?

Speaker 3:

Secondary

Speaker 1:

And wh- what, why -- why (interruption) was that?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) 'Cause basically I didn't learn anything. I learnt how to survive

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

'Cause That's how bad a school it was. It was really bad. (cough) So basically I was running the gauntlet every day

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

It was bad like but then you start growing up a bit you know. It was al- the -- the last three years were all right but the first two years

Speaker 1:

So would you have enjoyed it more if the, like standard of teaching would have been better, do you think?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Or do you think it was (interruption) your area or

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah basically yeah the, the pupils ran the school

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

It was worse than grange hill

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I honestly, I think they got the stories off Grange Hill off our school

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

'Cause it was that bad. It was horrendous (pause) but, it's all right. It's actually quite a good school now

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

(laughter) Probably 'cause I've left

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Eh yeah it is. It's good now. It like does Arts and all that now you know

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

And it's pretty, it's like a waiting list to get in to it. Believe it or not

Speaker 2:

(NAME)'s school's quite good though for drama

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah and parties

Speaker 2:

(interruption) because there was quite a few, erm, back in the day when (NAME) was at school or just after, was quite a few of the students there went on to do like Byker Grove and stuff

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Didn't they? So

Speaker 1:

And what about your school, did you enjoy yours?

Speaker 2:

I did but I was quite athletic so I didn't like, ran for Sunderland

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em, ran for the school, played hockey

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em netball and stuff like that, so that's kind of points that I enjoyed

Speaker 1:

Do you do any of that kind of stuff now?

Speaker 2:

No

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 2:

I try to, em go to the gym and (interruption) stuff like that but

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah Is it just time and things?

Speaker 2:

Yeah just working

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Too busy when you've got to do your job and run your own business at the same time

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

It's like you're working a double shift

Speaker 1:

So, would you have rather gone to a mixed school than an all girl's school?

Speaker 2:

Don't know em, probably not no. (interruption) 'Cause I'd probably have been a tearaway (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Bit of a (laughter) naughty girl (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Yeah (laughter) Em, so did you have a lot of friends at school? (cough)

Speaker 2:

Yes

Speaker 1:

(pause) Yeah like a big circle of friends? (cough)

Speaker 2:

Yeah I did but they were only friends at school 'cause, like I went to a Catholic all girls school em which was like a grammar school but all my friend who I grew up with went to (NAME)'s school

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

So kind of had two separate groups, had my friends at school and who I used to do sports and stuff like that with but then, my friends now, are the friends I grew up with who went to (NAME)'s school

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what about you, did you have a big group of friends?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Still have. When I go back to Sunderland I still see them all so

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Em, would you say that your school had certain types of gangs and things and you know little cliques? Like usually you get the geeks and the not geeks (interruption) and things

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Oh yeah definite (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Yeah (interruption) mine did too

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah and what groups would you say you two were in?

Speaker 3:

I, definitely in the -- the nutcases group

Speaker 1:

Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(laughter) No there was, it was, well, it was a weird school (interruption) wasn't it but

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

It was good. I was in the trendy crowd

Speaker 1:

Were you? (pause) and what about you?

Speaker 2:

(laughter) Em (laughter) I was in the trendy

Speaker 3:

No you weren't!

Speaker 2:

Yes I was!

Speaker 3:

You were the geeks!

Speaker 2:

(laughter) No I (interruption) wasn't. (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah you were

Speaker 2:

I was quite brainy at school so I was in the top classes with the geeks (interruption) but aft-

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Like, I used to knock about with the trendy ones

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

No (interruption) you used to knock about with us

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (NAME)!

Speaker 1:

Em, so what, what were your teachers like at school? Do you remember having a favourite or, one that you hated, or (interruption) anything?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah I had some. I had Mad (NAME) the em Geography teacher. I failed Geography

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

'Cause all he used to like talking about was Boxing so I can tell you loads about Boxing But I can't tell you nowt about Geography

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

Honestly I failed 'cause of him but it was funny

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

'Cause it's all he talked about, he (unclear) didn't teach us nowt

Speaker 1:

So did you have a favourite teacher or not?

Speaker 3:

Yeah eh I liked (NAME) he was good (pause) but em yeah there was a few. They were all right some of them

Speaker 1:

What was your favourite subject?

Speaker 3:

Mm probably Sport. Football

Speaker 1:

And what was your worst?

Speaker 3:

Em (pause) probably Cookery

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

All that sort of rubbish (laughter) (interruption) which

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Em

Speaker 3:

I was quite good at actually but

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Em (pause) no Maths. I didn't like that

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Boring

Speaker 1:

And can you remember any teachers from your school?

Speaker 2:

Em, Miss (NAME), she was a PE teacher. Em she used to take the hockey and netball and stuff as well so, em (pause) and then I had Miss (NAME) who was, I was really good at Maths and loved Maths but she was wicked

Speaker 1:

Yeah (pause) Em, so what was your favourite subject?

Speaker 2:

Maths and PE

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what was your worst?

Speaker 2:

(laughter) Religious Education (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

You're laughing, I had to (laughter) do it as a GCSE! (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Yeah did you?

Speaker 2:

(laughter) Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Em

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (laughter) It was compulsory (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Er, what kind of student would you say you were? Do you think you were well behaved or not?

Speaker 2:

Em I was well behaved but got caught for smoking

Speaker 1:

Um and what happened (pause) with that?

Speaker 2:

Em it happened on a day when my dad was going to see the teacher to see how I was getting on and eh, oh I know (NAME), it's dreadful and (interruption) he said

Speaker 3:

(interruption) You told me you started smoking after school

Speaker 2:

Oh Yeah, I think it was the last year though, like before my exams and em my dad says he couldn't make it 'cause he was busy at the dentist and I went and told her. I says 'Oh my Dad can't make it', and then he must have rang up and said he can and as I come back in off my lunch time I'd just had a cigarette and she told us and then she was like 'I can smell smoke on your breath!'

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Oh no! (laughter)

Speaker 2:

So my dad was (interruption) already on his way

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (cough)

Speaker 2:

To the (pause) thing, and I got, yeah

Speaker 1:

So what happened with that? What did your dad say?

Speaker 2:

He went off it

Speaker 1:

Did (interruption) he?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) I got grounded for that

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

And did you ever get in any serious trouble?

Speaker 3:

No, I was good

Speaker 1:

Are you sure?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) You never got in any serious trouble!

Speaker 3:

No I never got caught

Speaker 2:

Oh (laughter)

Speaker 3:

For anything

Speaker 1:

Em, so you said that you both went to college, what did (interruption) you do at college?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

I did Business Studies

Speaker 3:

I did eh Engineering

Speaker 1:

And did you enjoy that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah it was all right

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Mm

Speaker 2:

Boring

Speaker 1:

So do you still use those qualifications that you got in your work today or not?

Speaker 2:

Not really

Speaker 1:

(interruption) No

Speaker 2:

(interruption) More an experience, I suppose it did start us off in my career but not

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

Not now

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

Are you glad you went, or not?

Speaker 2:

Yeah I suppose it was a couple of years out wasn't it (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Mm eh it was all right (laughter)

Speaker 1:

And what do you think about university? Would, if you could go back, would you go to university now? Or do you think it's a bit

Speaker 3:

I would

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what would you do?

Speaker 3:

As little as possible, Media (interruption) Studies

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (laughter) I don't know, the easiest thing I would

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But for the social life and that's (interruption) really good

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

Isn't it?

Speaker 1:

So you'd just, you (interruption) 'd

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I would go to University actually but

Speaker 1:

You'd want to go for the social life Yeah?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Just not to learn owt but (pause) I know you've got to learn sort of stuff but (cough)

Speaker 1:

And wh- where would you like to go to university? Do (interruption) you think it'd be back at home

Speaker 3:

(interruption) mm

Speaker 1:

Or?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

Would you go somewhere

Speaker 3:

I don't know which one but I wouldn't go Sunderland

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I'd go somewhere

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Would you go quite far away from home do you think?

Speaker 3:

Prob, Yeah, a few hundred mile

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I don't know which one though. Which, who's got the best nightlife

Speaker 1:

Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Which is, I don't know. You tell me? (interruption) I don't know

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter) Newcastle, I'd say, obviously

Speaker 3:

Ah I wouldn't go that one

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

And what about you? Would you go to Uni?

Speaker 2:

No probably not

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 2:

I don't think it would have made a difference

Speaker 1:

Not even for the life style, do you think?

Speaker 2:

Yeah possible

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

That's the only thing you've got to pay now haven't you

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

If I was going go to a University I'd go to Oxford

Speaker 1:

Would you?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Pft

Speaker 1:

And what would you do?

Speaker 3:

Get off! They wouldn't have you

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

Philosophy or something like that

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

Why not? I'm a good student I got good qualifications

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

Oxford! Well I'd go to Cambridge then

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(cough) Em so do you have any funny or embarrassing or just any interesting stories about your time at school, like you were saying about the smoking one, have you got any others? (pause) Like anything to do with any teachers or any like practical jokes or things?

Speaker 2:

God I can't remember

Speaker 3:

I'll have to think about it

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

I did but I was only young but em, God don't. Got up to loads of stuff so (pause) it's, most of it's illegal

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(unclear) Don't. We did like loads of funny stuff

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Like all the time, just had a laugh

Speaker 2:

Didn't you set the school on fire?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

Did you? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

Yes he did

Speaker 3:

No I didn't (interruption) set the school on fire!

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter) What was that? (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Somebody you know set the (interruption) school on fire

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Aye somebody I know set it on fire

Speaker 1:

What the entire school?

Speaker 3:

No. Anyway I don't want to talk about that

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

I know (interruption) one

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Oh yeah that might be a (unclear)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I know one of my friends like in school time set eh, 'cause we, where the school is, it's near loads of fields

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

And set the field on fire and the whole thing went

Speaker 1:

So what happened with him? Did he get in trouble?

Speaker 3:

No. Nobody knows, who it is

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Yeah so

Speaker 3:

(interruption) So I shouldn't really be saying anything

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

'Cause the Farmer won't have known who it is but I know who it is

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

But no stuff like that we just, I don't know

Speaker 1:

So what do you think about the type of punishment they had when you were at school?

Speaker 3:

Well they didn't have Corporal Punishment

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

When I was there

Speaker 1:

Do you think it's a lot more serious than it is

Speaker 3:

No I said they didn't have it

Speaker 2:

(laughter) I know that's what I'm laughing at! Do you think you're that old? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Well Yeah, thirty-seven

Speaker 2:

Mm

Speaker 1:

So do you think it, em, schools today are too (interruption) relaxed?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah, far too soft

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

(cough)

Speaker 2:

I was scared, 'cause in my school was ran by nuns, so em (pause) (interruption) you were

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Were they really strict?

Speaker 2:

Yeah really strict

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Even things like your shoes couldn't be patent leather, because it reflects like your knickers. Em hair bobbles had to be navy, white (pause) or green

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Like and it had to be an (interruption) emerald green

Speaker 3:

(interruption) At my school you had to have, compulsory to have a tattoo or they wouldn't let you in

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

Have (interruption) you

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 1:

Got any tattoos just out of interest, either of you?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 2:

No

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 3:

(unclear)

Speaker 2:

I don't like them

Speaker 1:

Do you not? Why (interruption) not?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Have you got any?

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Oh have you, I'll not say anything (laughter) then (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) No you can, why don't you like them?

Speaker 3:

I like them but I'm just too scared of them

Speaker 1:

Really?

Speaker 3:

Pain yeah

Speaker 1:

Yeah (pause) and (interruption) do you

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I've been, I've been to get them a few times and bottled it

Speaker 1:

Really?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

If you were to get one what would you get?

Speaker 3:

I don't know that's a good question that. I'd get them, I don't know I'd get them everywhere

Speaker 2:

He wants (interruption) a dragon

Speaker 3:

(interruption) some (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Don't you?

Speaker 3:

No, I don't know

Speaker 1:

Would you not get anything to do with Sunderland?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

I'm not that sad. (interruption) Well I was going to get a

Speaker 2:

(interruption) My brother was in the

Speaker 3:

Black cat like, a black cat but (pause) em (pause) no

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 3:

I might one day, depends how, 'cause I've, in fact two of my friends who I used to go to school with they're both tattoo artists

Speaker 1:

Are they?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Are they?

Speaker 3:

Yeah (NAME) (NAME)'s twins

Speaker 2:

Oh

Speaker 3:

But you know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh

Speaker 3:

I've got that

Speaker 2:

Oh that one there

Speaker 3:

So I could go and get them and he'd just, 'cause if you seen them two they're covered in them

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Obviously, so If he seen me, blank canvas isn't he

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) he just, I wouldn't get out for five years. He'd just cover us in them

Speaker 1:

Eh what were you saying about your brother, sorry?

Speaker 2:

Oh he, he was in the army and he had em, Sunderland AFC on his arm and 'TANS' for Tansey written on the back of his neck by someone in the army and it just looks hideous, it's not even straight

Speaker 1:

Yeah just like he's scribbled on him yeah Em so wh- what has been your favourite birthday so far do you think?

Speaker 3:

mine? (pause) hmm (pause) I don't know 'cause the best ones your eighteenth, I can't remember it. Nineteenth, I can't remember it. Twenty first, I can't remember it

Speaker 1:

Is that because you were drunk or (interruption) just

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Oh (interruption) yeah

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

Properly comatose so I can't really remember them. That's the honest truth

Speaker 1:

So what did you do, have parties and things?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) What about your thirtieth?

Speaker 3:

I got stripped naked and walked through Sunderland town centre

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

I can't remember which one that was, might've been my eighteenth and my properly like friends, friends, I say (interruption) that term loosely

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

They took all like, stripped us naked and I was walking through Sunderland town centre and basically you know on like signs?

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

They were finding like shoes

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Jeans, like tops. I found my jeans and obviously my underpants last. Well, my boxer shorts

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But em yeah. They just left a trail (interruption) all the way down the town centre

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Did you not enjoy your thirtieth?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah 'cause I went to Barcelona didn't I?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah what was that, (interruption) wh- where did you go?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah it was good

Speaker 2:

I took (interruption) him for a surprise

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Barcelona

Speaker 2:

To Barcelona to watch Barcelona play Deportivo at the Nou -- Camp

Speaker 1:

(interruption) So how -- how long did you go?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah it was good

Speaker 2:

Four days was it? (interruption) Three or four days

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (cough) Yeah three or four days

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

Was good (pause) I remember that one (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Good

Speaker 1:

And what's been your favourite birthday?

Speaker 2:

Eh (pause) I don't know, I can't remember

Speaker 1:

What do you do to celebrate your birthdays, usually?

Speaker 2:

Eh well mine, my dad's is the seventh of April, mine's the eighth

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

And his girlfriend's is the ninth

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

So we tend, em in April, we tend to go away don't we? We're normally in Spain for mine 'cause we all go over and have a big celebration, especially when it was my thirtieth

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Eh no sorry twenty-eight 'cause my dad was like fifty. Was it my dad's fiftieth when I was twenty-eight? And

Speaker 3:

I don't know (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Yeah so we all went over for there and my sister goes over and everything and we had like a big celebration, so

Speaker 1:

Yeah, whereabouts in Spain is it?

Speaker 2:

Em it's near Mazarron, Puerto Mazzaron which is about two

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Costa Calida,

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Tw- yeah (interruption) two

Speaker 3:

No Costa Blanca weren't it?

Speaker 2:

No Costa Calida, it's

Speaker 3:

Near Mercia

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Just south of Mercia

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Oh You've heard of La Manga?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) You've got like Benidorm

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

And stuff and La Manga

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Eh the island that comes off

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yes it's near La Manga

Speaker 1:

So is that a tourist area or more locals?

Speaker 2:

Em, well, you, (interruption) it's

Speaker 3:

(interruption) It's in the middle of nowhere but it's more, it's a lot of English are there

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But it's, it's not touristy it's people who actually, they're living over there (unclear)

Speaker 1:

Yeah people that have gone over to live there

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's like a big complex is it, it's about two or three miles long like with all the houses and stuff on so

Speaker 1:

So where else have you been apart from Sp- er, Spain? I know you've been to Australia

Speaker 3:

Mm

Speaker 1:

Or do you just usually go to Spain?

Speaker 2:

Em

Speaker 3:

I've been to Portugal, Spain

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

American

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Greece

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Whereabouts in America was it?

Speaker 3:

Em, Miami and New York (pause) Yeah where else? Indonesia, Malasia, Barley. I've been that club that got blew up. I've been in that

Speaker 1:

Really?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

So is that travelling or holidays?

Speaker 3:

(cough) Yeah travelling

Speaker 1:

Travelling

Speaker 3:

God I've been all over. Cyprus

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Greece (pause) I'm trying to think where else (pause) Burnley

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Sunderland

Speaker 1:

(laughter) And what about you?

Speaker 2:

Eh we've been to Paris

Speaker 3:

Oh Yeah, Paris

Speaker 2:

Em just all over really, the (interruption) same as (NAME)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em went to Italy for the nineteen ninety World Cup (interruption) when I was little

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Was that good? What was that like?

Speaker 2:

Well I was only about twelve or thirteen at (interruption) the time

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

But I spent most of the time on the beach with my mam and my brother and my dad went

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Off to the matches. Was good. Good atmosphere

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Especially when Italy won the games, em

Speaker 1:

So are you interested in football

Speaker 2:

Yes

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Do you actually like to watch the match or do you like the atmosphere?

Speaker 2:

Both

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

I like to watch a match an- and the atmosphere really

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So do you support Sunderland as well?

Speaker 2:

I do

Speaker 1:

Yep Right em, how do you celebrate Ch- Christmas?

Speaker 2:

s oh it's an awkward one this

Speaker 1:

Is it? (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Well, we've got no kids (interruption) so

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Obviously we don't have to spend it here with our and like children and stuff, but we tend to go home and then we've got (NAME)'s mam's or my mam's and my dad's and stuff, so we just have to fit it all in

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em I think one year though we're just going to do what we want and kind of go off aren't we? And celebrate it together

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) 'Cause it's a bit awkward 'cause like I have to go to my mam's for my dinner and he goes to his mam's or

Speaker 1:

So do you not all come together as just like one big family, or do you just

Speaker 2:

No

Speaker 1:

No. Do you like Christmas, both of you?

Speaker 3:

(cough) Yeah (interruption) it's all right

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. Em (pause) so how did you spend last New Year's Eve?

Speaker 3:

That's a good question

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

Were we not at their party last year?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 2:

Hawaiian party? Yeah we were

Speaker 3:

Weren't. That wasn't last year was it?

Speaker 2:

It was

Speaker 3:

I wasn't there (pause) I don't know

Speaker 2:

I'm sure it was. It was it last year

Speaker 3:

(interruption) It wasn't

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Em, it was (pause) (NAME) and (NAME) across the road had an Hawaiian party (interruption) for New Year

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

And we went there

Speaker 3:

Was that last year?

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Was it?

Speaker 2:

Mm-mm

Speaker 1:

Was that good?

Speaker 2:

Yeah it was really good!

Speaker 3:

Must have been, I (interruption) can't remember (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Did you, did you dress up?

Speaker 2:

Yes

Speaker 1:

Eh, what did you wear?

Speaker 2:

Eh a sarong

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) What's so wrong about that? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Eh, well if it was, I had a Hawaiian shirt on

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Hawaiian shorts, sandals with white socks on

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

White socks pulled up, quality. Was that last year?

Speaker 2:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Was it?

Speaker 2:

Mm-mm

Speaker 3:

Hm can't remember

Speaker 1:

So do you both usually enjoy New Year's Eve or do you think it's a bit overrated?

Speaker 3:

No it's overrated isn't it

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But

Speaker 2:

It's awkward for (NAME) (interruption) 'cause

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

His father died on New Year's

Speaker 1:

Oh

Speaker 2:

Day, morning

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

So (pause) it was, before that it was great but

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Since then, it's been hard for (NAME) (pause) (interruption) Hasn't it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

It's not kind of a celebration for you

Speaker 3:

No. It's a good excuse to get drunk

Speaker 1:

Yeah (interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Em, (interruption) can you remember the millennium?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (cough)

Speaker 2:

Yes

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Wh

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Mm God, where were we on that?

Speaker 2:

We were just local with everybody else round four, in Sunderland

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah

Speaker 1:

So what did you do for that?

Speaker 3:

I can't remember that

Speaker 2:

Just partied didn't we? There was loads of house parties, like all friends live together in like a few estates

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em and there was just like house parties and we just went like door to door I think. It was when we went (interruption) (NAME) (NAME) and stuff like that

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Bloody hell you've got a good memory (cough)

Speaker 1:

So what was your neighbourhood like as children, were you really close to your neighbours and did you (interruption) live on an estate

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 1:

Did you have a lot of friends and things?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Yeah. (interruption) Very cliquey

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Still have. There's (interruption) a lot

Speaker 2:

(interruption) His mam

Speaker 3:

Where my mam still lives, been there thirty years, same house. So

Speaker 1:

Has she?

Speaker 2:

Be longer than that, weren't you born there?

Speaker 3:

Oh aye

Speaker 2:

(interruption) He's thirty-seven now. She must have been there about forty year

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Oh aye

Speaker 1:

So is there a lot of people that still live there

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

(interruption) From

Speaker 3:

(interruption) There is actually

Speaker 1:

From (interruption) what you remember?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) A lot of them, a lot of them are dead like but

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

It's, yeah there's still quite a few people there

Speaker 2:

Like all his friends who are married now and stuff moved down there, it's like Seaburn (pause) Private estate. Nice

Speaker 1:

So did you enjoy where you lived, when you were growing up?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) He loved it

Speaker 1:

What did you like about it?

Speaker 3:

It's just right near the sea so

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Right near the beach

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Had everything

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Your friends, the beach

Speaker 1:

So how did you spend time when you were younger? Going to the beach and what else?

Speaker 2:

Well I used to, I was in a lot of clubs

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

So I used to do a lot of running for Sunderland Harriers (pause) em and Hockey and (interruption) Netball and stuff

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Did that. Other than that we used to meet in the cemetery and drink near the churches

Speaker 1:

(laughter) did you? (laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter) On a Friday and Saturday night (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

And then progressed to Monday, Tuesday, (interruption) Wednesday, Thursday

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Friday

Speaker 1:

(interruption) So how old were you when you used to do that?

Speaker 3:

Thirteen

Speaker 1:

Thirteen?

Speaker 2:

Fourteen, fifteen

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Bottle of 20/20 and White Lightning

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 1:

So when people say (interruption) that

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (cough)

Speaker 1:

Children these days like drink quite a lot and you say that you drank when you were like thirteen and fourteen, do you think that not actually that -- that much has changed?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 2:

Probably not, no. (interruption) Just

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I think they're younger now

Speaker 1:

Do you think it's just more publicised now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah exactly. People never ew knew about it then 'cause we used to kind of, as I say, the, like Seaburn Dene where we grew up, was a massive church em a massive cemetery and there's like two churches meet in the middle so like you're totally out the way aren't you. Where I think these days it's more like street corners

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em and streets and parks where people actually see it. Think then it still went on but it was kind of behind closed doors (interruption) if you like

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah. Would you say as well that maybe you had more of an excuse to do it because there wasn't actually that much to do? Whereas teenagers today have got you know like going out and like bowling and just loads of

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Different social activities?

Speaker 3:

There's nowt, nothing to do. So that's why I drank

Speaker 2:

There wasn't was there? When we were younger, apart from hang about

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 2:

I mean we had the fair and the amusements (pause) but apart from that but then you used to drink round the back of them so (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) (cough)

Speaker 2:

I'll drink on the waltzer

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Em right I'm just going to ask you some questions about like your goals and your achievements. Where do you see yourself in ten years time?

Speaker 3:

Dead

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

That's the whole point

Speaker 2:

Tut (NAME)

Speaker 3:

Definitely

Speaker 2:

No be (interruption) reasonable

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

I'm telling you I will be

Speaker 2:

(cough)

Speaker 3:

I don't know

Speaker 1:

So do you think you'll still be living in Burnley?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 2:

No

Speaker 1:

No

Speaker 3:

I think we'll be living abroad

Speaker 1:

Do you?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Where a bouts? Spain or Australia?

Speaker 3:

I'd love to go Australia but I'm getting too old now to get in, so

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Think more like Spain

Speaker 3:

Yeah probably Spain

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

And a child, I want a child!

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Em so have you made (laughter) plans (laughter) on having a family?

Speaker 3:

No. You have

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

Haven't you?

Speaker 2:

Well yeah but he says I've got to pack in smoking (interruption) before I can

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

So I've got to do that first

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

Em so what's your biggest achievement to date, would you say?

Speaker 3:

To date, bloody hell (pause) (interruption) I don't know

Speaker 2:

(interruption) I think (NAME)'s is probably starting your own business

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) And probably been going for nearly a year (interruption) now coming up

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em although it hasn't been like amazing and he's had his hiccups and things go wrong, you're doing all right. You're paying your way (pause) and stuff, so

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Probably that for (NAME)

Speaker 1:

And what about you?

Speaker 2:

Mm probably my career

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em (interruption) in the middle

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 2:

Of starting up my own business so

Speaker 3:

And then moving away as well

Speaker 2:

Yeah that was a (interruption) big upheaval

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah, (interruption) yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) You know what I mean

Speaker 3:

We left everybody haven't we so

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Didn't like move away to be with family or anything like that so

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Em so do you have any specific goals or anything that you want to achieve?

Speaker 3:

I well I do. I want to learn Spanish

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I keep meaning to get round to doing it but

Speaker 1:

Eh

Speaker 3:

Oh, I don't know

Speaker 1:

So do you think you'll ever actually do that?

Speaker 3:

Well yes, I do yeah

Speaker 1:

How would you go about doing it? Would you go to classes or you can get like DVDs (interruption) cant you?

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I'd probably use DVD. I'd do it

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But em, what do I know yet em: 'Uno grandes cervesa por favor'

Speaker 1:

And what's that? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) One

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Large

Speaker 3:

One large beer please

Speaker 1:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) So you see that's -- that's all you need to know though isn't it (interruption) really

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah. Em and what about you, do you have any?

Speaker 2:

Em just starting my own business

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em and being able to work for myself full-time rather than

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Having a job and doing it at the same time

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 2:

And having a family

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Em, so what are you- your opinions on marriage? Do you think it's relevant or irrelevant in today's society?

Speaker 2:

I think it's relevant

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what about you (NAME)? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

I think it's very irrelevant

Speaker 1:

And why's that?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) (laughter)

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (cough) Because, what's the point

Speaker 1:

Do you think it's just lost all novelty now (interruption) and everyone just

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 1:

Does it for th- the sake of it?

Speaker 3:

Yeah I do. I just don't know believe in it. Everyone I know who's married, the majority of them are bloody divorced now, so what's the point?

Speaker 1:

Mm

Speaker 3:

Like my (interruption) friends

Speaker 2:

(interruption) It does

Speaker 3:

A lot of them are divorced now you know, so

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Is there any point? I would say

Speaker 2:

Yes, I want a ring!

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

There you gan

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

There's (unclear) (laughter)

Speaker 1:

Em, right so how do you feel about your accent? Do you like it? Do you think it's a good accent to have?

Speaker 2:

Yes because it was voted years ago as one of the friendliest accents and that's why they've moved all the call centres up in to Sunderland

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

And the North East

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I, I like my accent

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

But I talk like you like sometimes

Speaker 1:

(laughter) I know, wh-

Speaker 3:

I can change

Speaker 1:

What

Speaker 3:

I can change down into like Burnley can't I?

Speaker 2:

No

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 1:

(laughter) What are your opinions on the Burnley accent?

Speaker 3:

(cough) I don't know

Speaker 2:

I just don't get why yees miss letters out your words

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 3:

I think you sound, you sound simple. Some people do

Speaker 1:

Yeah (interruption) I was going to say

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Like, 'you all right'. Like bloody hell

Speaker 1:

So do you think like, you make judgements on people

Speaker 3:

(interruption) You do Yeah, yeah

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Based on their accent?

Speaker 2:

Yeah you can do

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Especially if you're over the telephone and not face to face

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Do you find that people eh, eh, not so much treat you differently but em I don't know a bit funny towards you when they hear your accent and that you're not around, that you're not from Burnley?

Speaker 2:

Yes

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Yeah we do yeah

Speaker 2:

Very cliquey here

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Very cliquey. Like I've got friends (pause) up in the North East and the, like one of (NAME)'s friends is moved in with em (NAME) she's from Essex

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

And all my friends eh including me, kind of like really good friends with her now and just include her in everything and you know she's more than welcome. She's kind of just fitted nicely into the group

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

I think down here, you're very much an outsider

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Em and they don't treat you as

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

They're not as friendly. That's what I mean about culture (interruption) it's like a

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

Totally different culture down here

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So do you think em people up in Sunderland are more, would be more accepting of people with different (interruption) accents

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Yeah much

Speaker 1:

Than (interruption) Burnley is?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Much more

Speaker 1:

Yeah (pause) Em, so do you ever try to consciously change your accent like for example if you were on the phone or anything? Do you have like a telephone voice?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Not that I'm aw

Speaker 3:

(interruption) You do

Speaker 1:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

(laughter)

Speaker 2:

Not that I'm aware of but

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I don't

Speaker 1:

You don't, ever? (pause) No?

Speaker 3:

No (laughter)

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Em so what is your favourite accent? (pause) Do you have one?

Speaker 2:

Not really. Em I like the Australian accent

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I don't know

Speaker 2:

Quite friendly isn't it

Speaker 1:

Yeah and what's your least favourite accent?

Speaker 2:

Liverpool

Speaker 1:

Yeah (laughter) and why's that? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Why?

Speaker 2:

It's just annoying

Speaker 3:

Do you not, what about Birmingham?

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Oh yeah and Birmingham

Speaker 3:

(interruption) (unclear)

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

Don't like that either

Speaker 3:

I don't know it doesn't bother me, accents. But em my favourite would probablys be, I don't know (pause) I like Dutch accent

Speaker 1:

(laughter) Wh- Why's that? (laughter)

Speaker 3:

'Cause I met, I met a load of Dutch people when I was there

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

I don't know I just like it

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Do you think

Speaker 3:

(interruption) I don't know really. I mean regional accent's don't really bother us you know so

Speaker 1:

Do you think when you went travelling it was difficult for people to understand your accent?

Speaker 3:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

It's difficult for me to understand his (interruption) accent

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah (laughter)

Speaker 2:

Sometimes when he talks (interruption) so fast

Speaker 3:

I had to, I had to speak slow

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 3:

Like really slow

Speaker 2:

(cough)

Speaker 1:

Did you get a lot of eh abuse about it, like jokingly?

Speaker 3:

No

Speaker 1:

No (pause) And do you think, do you find it difficult to understand other people's accents? Like when you first came to Burnley?

Speaker 2:

Yeah I still do now

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

I still say 'Sorry? (interruption) What?

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah

Speaker 2:

What? (interruption) What? Pardon?'

Speaker 3:

(interruption) You do, you've sort of got words for like

Speaker 2:

Like

Speaker 3:

You've got daft words haven't you

Speaker 2:

Yeah like oining. (interruption) Didn't know what that meant

Speaker 1:

(interruption) Yeah oining (laughter)

Speaker 3:

Yeah oining us I mean what the hell's that, wh- what

Speaker 2:

I don't get that. There was loads of words (interruption) that was said

Speaker 3:

(interruption) Yeah loads of stuff

Speaker 2:

And it was like what?

Speaker 1:

Yeah

Speaker 2:

But then again when I'm at work and there's stuff I say, like em for told off in the North East we'd say em, 'get wrong'

Speaker 1:

Yeah, (interruption) yeah I've found that yeah

Speaker 2:

(interruption) Em some people don't understand that and there's loads

Speaker 3:

Get wrong?

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